Re: booting with no keyboard or moue - frying mb

2002-02-20 Thread dman
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 11:37:21PM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: | On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 07:57:36PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: | > donno... i've plugged and unplugged various mouse and kbs | > all the time into lots-o-mbs and machines and have not | > yet fried any mb... ( guess i can consider myself luc

Re: OT: kvm alternatives? (was: booting with no keyboard or moue)

2002-02-18 Thread Hay Seed
Stay away from Linksys Proconnect switches. They are crap. I have three computers hooked up to a four port switch. Once everything is running it works just fine, but booting from a total shutdown is a pain: the kvm won't recognize the keyboard unless you power up the switch at exactly the right

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-18 Thread Emil Pedersen
> > > I heard on this list that this may cause hardware damage. I had several > accident of unplugging KB and no problem afterward. (I was not on Compaq > but generic MB) Talking from experience, you might damage your mb though it is not likely. The only one I've "managed "to fry this way was a

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue - frying mb

2002-02-18 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 07:57:36PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > donno... i've plugged and unplugged various mouse and kbs > all the time into lots-o-mbs and machines and have not > yet fried any mb... ( guess i can consider myself lucky... True but if you think about it, it may be true PS@ is dangero

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue - frying mb

2002-02-17 Thread Alvin Oga
hiya tom humm... donno... i've plugged and unplugged various mouse and kbs all the time into lots-o-mbs and machines and have not yet fried any mb... ( guess i can consider myself lucky... on the other hand by tweeking XFConfig... i have fried a monitor :-) ... nice smoke test..smells for

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-17 Thread Tom Cook
John Hasler wrote: > > Elizabeth Barham writes: > > I don't understand how it could possibly cause hardware damage. > > He means that unplugging the keyboard with the power on can cause damage. > He's right, though I have never personally seen it happen. Yes, hot-plugging PS/2 devices is a well

Re: OT: kvm alternatives? (was: booting with no keyboard or moue)

2002-02-17 Thread Jeff J.
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Re: OT: kvm alternatives? (was: booting with no keyboard or moue)

2002-02-17 Thread Alex Malinovich
st something you might want to look at. > > Jeff J. > > - Original Message - > From: "Alex Malinovich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Elizabeth Barham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 11:03 AM > Subject: Re:

Re: OT: kvm alternatives? (was: booting with no keyboard or moue)

2002-02-17 Thread Alex Malinovich
WOW! This is EXACTLY what I have been looking for! I can't thank you enough! Thanks!!! :) -Alex p.s. DC = Domain Controller On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 01:23, Elizabeth Barham wrote: > > The only reason thata I'd have for using X remotely would be if I > > could somehow figure out a way to get the Win

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-17 Thread Mike Millner
February 17, 2002 6:22 AM Subject: Re: booting with no keyboard or moue > You might want to take a look in the bios settings, usally the advanced > settings, I know some IBM systems offer a way to allow you to boot without > kbd/monitor (I have 4 that allow this). > > John > > On S

Re: OT: kvm alternatives? (was: booting with no keyboard or moue)

2002-02-17 Thread John Cichy
You might look on ebay or something like that, I was lucky, a friend decided he was going to upgrade his and gave me a 6 port KVM. To help you find one here is the info: BELKIN Omni View (model F1D065) This is an AT/Serial type KVM but adaptors can be purchased for a couple of dollars to plug

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-17 Thread John Cichy
You might want to take a look in the bios settings, usally the advanced settings, I know some IBM systems offer a way to allow you to boot without kbd/monitor (I have 4 that allow this). John On Saturday 16 February 2002 23:06, Alvin Oga wrote: > hi ya Mike > > to boot w/o kb is tricky mou

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-17 Thread John Hasler
Elizabeth Barham writes: > I don't understand how it could possibly cause hardware damage. He means that unplugging the keyboard with the power on can cause damage. He's right, though I have never personally seen it happen. > The only problem is if the power goes off and you're not around; if the

Re: OT: kvm alternatives? (was: booting with no keyboard or moue)

2002-02-17 Thread Elizabeth Barham
> The only reason thata I'd have for using X remotely would be if I > could somehow figure out a way to get the Windows 2000 Advanced > Server Administration Tools to behave as X clients so I wouldn't > have to boot into Windows to manage the DC. I don't know what DC means but VNC has a (free) sof

Re: OT: kvm alternatives? (was: booting with no keyboard or moue)

2002-02-17 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 00:41, Elizabeth Barham wrote: > Do you use X? Yes, but not in a way that would be particularly beneficial. For my laptop it's pointless to use my desktop as a server, for my mail server I really don't need a GUI and I really DO need the free space, and for the Dreamcast I s

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-17 Thread ben
On Saturday 16 February 2002 10:45 pm, Elizabeth Barham wrote: > Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > 2) Bring a keyboard, plug it in, boot, remove the keyboard (but > > > >hopefully you have a UPS). > > > > I heard on this list that this may cause hardware damage. I had > > several

Re: OT: kvm alternatives? (was: booting with no keyboard or moue)

2002-02-17 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sat, 2002-02-16 at 22:56, Cameron Kerr wrote: > What function is your DreamCast playing (Games? Or have you hacked it to > do something else?) As new Dreamcast games are rather scarce these days, it has been given the great honor of running Potato. :) I've been thinking about setting up Apache

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-17 Thread Elizabeth Barham
Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 2) Bring a keyboard, plug it in, boot, remove the keyboard (but > > >hopefully you have a UPS). > > > I heard on this list that this may cause hardware damage. I had > several accident of unplugging KB and no problem afterward. (I was > not on Com

Re: OT: kvm alternatives? (was: booting with no keyboard or moue)

2002-02-17 Thread Elizabeth Barham
Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Pardon me for a hideously off-topic question here, but does anyone > know of any cheap alternatives to getting a KVM for home use? I've > got 3 PC's tucked away under my desk, as well as a Sega Dreamcast > that I connect my monitor and my keyboard to,

Re: OT: kvm alternatives? (was: booting with no keyboard or moue)

2002-02-16 Thread Cameron Kerr
On 16 Feb 2002, Alex Malinovich wrote: >Pardon me for a hideously off-topic question here, but does anyone know >of any cheap alternatives to getting a KVM for home use? I've got 3 PC's >tucked away under my desk, as well as a Sega Dreamcast that I connect my >monitor and my keyboard to, and none

OT: kvm alternatives? (was: booting with no keyboard or moue)

2002-02-16 Thread Alex Malinovich
Pardon me for a hideously off-topic question here, but does anyone know of any cheap alternatives to getting a KVM for home use? I've got 3 PC's tucked away under my desk, as well as a Sega Dreamcast that I connect my monitor and my keyboard to, and none of them care about whether they're started u

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-16 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya Mike to boot w/o kb is tricky mouse is less of an issue - and yeah...cant hit F1 to continue if there is no kb plugged in - if you can be there ... its easiest to just plug in the kb ... reboot it... and unplug it when the kb is needed on another pc - went poking aro

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-16 Thread Osamu Aoki
Oops, I sent message too fast. On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 07:55:18PM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 09:35:09PM -0600, Elizabeth Barham wrote: > > BIOS. Some BIOS' (notably the older Compaq's) halt on Boot if it can't > ... > > I looked for these in the past and I don't recall find

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-16 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 09:35:09PM -0600, Elizabeth Barham wrote: > BIOS. Some BIOS' (notably the older Compaq's) halt on Boot if it can't ... > I looked for these in the past and I don't recall finding anything (or > if I did it was above my budget). Your options are rather limited if > your BIOS

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-16 Thread Jeff J.
TECTED]> To: "Mike Millner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 8:21 PM Subject: Re: booting with no keyboard or moue --- This message is certified virus free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 2/8/2002

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-16 Thread Elizabeth Barham
"Mike Millner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is it a function of the hardware bios or the OS to be able to boot > without a keyboard or mouse? I have a Debian Potato system that is > up and running. I want to be able to boot the system with no > keyboard or mouse plugged in. I SSH to it when I nee

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-16 Thread Alex Malinovich
Your BIOS should allow you to boot without a keyboard or mouse. My mail server is a P133 Potato system with nothing plugged into it but a network cable and a power cable. Been working fine for a few months now. -Alex On Sat, 2002-02-16 at 17:50, Mike Millner wrote: > Is it a function of the hardw

Re: booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-16 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Mike Millner wrote on Sat Feb 16, 2002 um 04:50:19PM: > Is it a function of the hardware bios or the OS to be able to boot without a > keyboard or mouse? I have a Debian Potato system that is up and running. I > want to be able to boot the system with no keyboard or mouse plugged in. I >

booting with no keyboard or moue

2002-02-16 Thread Mike Millner
Is it a function of the hardware bios or the OS to be able to boot without a keyboard or mouse? I have a Debian Potato system that is up and running. I want to be able to boot the system with no keyboard or mouse plugged in. I SSH to it when I need to check it or do anything. If it is hardware any