Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-25 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + Joe wrote: > > > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > > > > > And for those who are wondering, this is going on in trixie. [...] > The quick fix in sources.list for debian is to add signed-by into > existing lines after deb or deb-src: > > deb \ > [

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:53:49AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 10:42:27 -0500 Michael Stone wrote: >...except that, per the rest of the discussion in that bug, it almost >certainly won't be able to predict which signer to apply for each >sources.list entry. That you'll prob

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Also, there is https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList . Regards, Jörg.

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:27:54AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Charles Curley wrote: > > Another option would be to retain all comments, and let the user > > manually convert commented out entries. Simple, easy to do, and only a > > little obnoxious for the user. > > > > And for those who are

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:53:49 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > However, it is not in the man page for apt or apt-get. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1094784 -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:30:02 + Joe wrote: > Why in the world bother making your own scripts when you can just do > > # apt modernize-sources > The following files need modernizing: > - /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome-beta.list > - /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list > -

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread songbird
Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 01:51:49AM -0500, songbird wrote: >> when doing the upgrade you do have the option of doing >> a test run to see what changes are made or not making the >> changes at that time. >> >> when going through this process the comments in >> sources

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 10:42:27 -0500 Michael Stone wrote: > >...except that, per the rest of the discussion in that bug, it almost > >certainly won't be able to predict which signer to apply for each > >sources.list entry. That you'll probably have to add on your own. > > It even tells you that!

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 10:22:17AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: I haven't seen this hit yet (though I probably will next time I dist-upgrade against testing), but a comment in bug #1094263 leads me to suspect that there is now supposed to be an 'apt modernize-sources' sub-command, which looks like

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Joe
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:09:37 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + > Joe wrote: > > > The long-term fix is a file standard.sources root:root 644 in > > /etc/sources.list.d containing: > > Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better > yet, a s

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-02-06 at 10:09, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + Joe wrote: > >> The long-term fix is a file standard.sources root:root 644 in >> /etc/sources.list.d containing: > > Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better > yet, a script or two to d

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:09:37AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better yet, a script or two to do it for us? There will be a lot of people scrambling to convert at the last minute. Yes, current version prompts on what to do.

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + Joe wrote: > The long-term fix is a file standard.sources root:root 644 in > /etc/sources.list.d containing: Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better yet, a script or two to do it for us? There will be a lot of people scrambling to co

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Joe
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:54:28 -0500 Frank McCormick wrote: > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > >> Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be > >> addressed since from what I understand you are basically ask

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Dan Purgert
On Feb 06, 2025, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > > > since from what I understand you are basically asking for other

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + Andy Smith wrote: Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted in

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > > since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise > > valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted into > >

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + Andy Smith wrote: > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise > valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted into > inactive deb822 files, which seems l

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 01:51:49AM -0500, songbird wrote: > when doing the upgrade you do have the option of doing > a test run to see what changes are made or not making the > changes at that time. > > when going through this process the comments in > sources.list were discarded. I thin

testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-05 Thread songbird
when doing the upgrade you do have the option of doing a test run to see what changes are made or not making the changes at that time. when going through this process the comments in sources.list were discarded. i don't know about other people or what they put in sources.list, but i normall

Re: Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-22 Thread Tim Woodall
would say then 'replacing') of such cases? User can be alerted more easily during apt upgrade that some packages with a same version could be replaced by the Debian archive ones. apt list --replaceable apt upgrade --no-replaceable :-) Note that it could be replacement from configured alt

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:04:42PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > That's what I do too. > > +~tjw12r1 > if I've patched the current version. > ~tjw12r1 if I've backported a higher version. > > I scan for newer versions in debian and auto-rebase my changes (unless > the rebase fails) so I'm rarely mo

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-20 Thread Tim Woodall
packages for testing at the same version as in the archive, I am surprised that apt upgrade will reinstall any of those installed by the one from the archive. I did not remember such a "feature" in the past, unless my memory plays tricks on me:-). I think you should change the package version

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-20 Thread Anssi Saari
Patrice Duroux writes: > But could it be the a nice feature for apt to have a list apart on the > upgrading > (I would say then 'replacing') of such cases? > User can be alerted more easily during apt upgrade that some packages with a > same version could be replaced b

Re: Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-17 Thread tomas
e feature for apt to have a list apart on the > upgrading > (I would say then 'replacing') of such cases? > User can be alerted more easily during apt upgrade that some packages with a > same version could be replaced by the Debian archive ones. > apt list --replaceable >

Re: Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-16 Thread Patrice Duroux
27;) of such cases? User can be alerted more easily during apt upgrade that some packages with a same version could be replaced by the Debian archive ones. apt list --replaceable apt upgrade --no-replaceable :-) Note that it could be replacement from configured alternative source archives. Regards, Patrice

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-16 Thread tomas
r testing > > > at the same version as in the archive, I am surprised that apt upgrade > > > will reinstall any of those installed by the one from the archive. I > > > did not remember such a "feature" in the past, unless my memory plays > > > tricks on me

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-16 Thread David Wright
On Sat 16 Nov 2024 at 15:54:17 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 03:11:37PM +0100, Patrice Duroux wrote: > > > > On Sid, building and installing locally modified packages for testing > > at the same version as in the archive, I am surprised that

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-16 Thread tomas
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 03:11:37PM +0100, Patrice Duroux wrote: > Hi, > > On Sid, building and installing locally modified packages for testing > at the same version as in the archive, I am surprised that apt upgrade > will reinstall any of those installed by the one from the archi

question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-16 Thread Patrice Duroux
Hi, On Sid, building and installing locally modified packages for testing at the same version as in the archive, I am surprised that apt upgrade will reinstall any of those installed by the one from the archive. I did not remember such a "feature" in the past, unless my memory plays tr

Re: apt upgrade can't find archive for virtualbox-7.0

2023-12-23 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 23 Dec 2023 09:22 -0500, from s.mol...@sbcglobal.net (Stephen P. Molnar): >> If you don't want to run VirtualBox going forward, the easiest way >> might be to just `apt purge virtualbox-7.0`. > (base) comp@AbNormal:~$ sudo apt purge virtualbox-7.0 > [sudo] password for comp: > Reading package li

Re: apt upgrade can't find archive for virtualbox-7.0; was: Synaptic Problem

2023-12-23 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
... Done Reading state information... Done All packages are up to date. W: https://repo.skype.com/deb/dists/stable/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8) for details. (base) comp@AbNormal:~$ sudo apt upgrade Reading

Re: apt upgrade can't find archive for virtualbox-7.0; was: Synaptic Problem

2023-12-23 Thread Michael Kjörling
one > All packages are up to date. > W: https://repo.skype.com/deb/dists/stable/InRelease: Key is stored in > legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION > section in apt-key(8) for details. > (base) comp@AbNormal:~$ sudo apt upgrade > Reading packa

Re: apt upgrade in buster is confused

2023-07-24 Thread Andy Smith
ldstable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html because if you have, then I do not understand why you aren't following the documented steps, which are in part: # apt update # apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs # apt full-upgrade Cheers, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: apt upgrade in buster is confused

2023-07-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 24 Jul 2023 13:35:49 -0700 Scott Edwards wrote: > https://paste.debian.net/1286823/ > > I just want to upgrade to stable, but I'm stuck here Stuck where? What instructions did you follow. Did you modify /etc/apt/sources.list? Did you run "apt update" before

Re: apt upgrade in buster is confused

2023-07-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 4:36 PM Scott Edwards wrote: > > https://paste.debian.net/1286823/ > > I just want to upgrade to stable, but I'm stuck here Run 'apt-get update' first, and then 'apt-get upgrade'. If Apt-get fails, then try Aptitude. Aptitude has a better solver, and can often come up wit

apt upgrade in buster is confused

2023-07-24 Thread Scott Edwards
https://paste.debian.net/1286823/ I just want to upgrade to stable, but I'm stuck here

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-12-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Dec 2022 at 08:19:48 (+0100), Loïc Grenié wrote: > On Sat Dec, 3, 2022 at 04:03, David Wright wrote: > > Yes, hence my comment on potential interactions between different > > packages. The OP mentioned udev, but in their OP they talked about > > manually restarting systemd services. I wa

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-12-02 Thread Loïc Grenié
On Sat Dec, 3, 2022 at 04:03, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 02 Dec 2022 at 21:33:45 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote: > > > > FWIW: > > > > $ apt-cache policy udev > > udev: > > Installed: 252.1-1 > > Candidate: 252.1-1 > > Version table: > > *** 252.1-1 900 > > 900 http://ftp.us.debian.o

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-12-02 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Dec 2022 at 21:33:45 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote: > > FWIW: > > $ apt-cache policy udev > udev: > Installed: 252.1-1 > Candidate: 252.1-1 > Version table: > *** 252.1-1 900 > 900 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/statu

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-12-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-12-02 at 21:04, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 02 Dec 2022 at 09:04:35 (+0100), Loïc Grenié wrote: > >> On Fri Dec 2 2022 at 04:31, David Wright wrote: >>> AFAICT udev was upgraded from 247.3-7 to 247.3-7+deb11u1 in early >>> September, so which distribution are /you/ running? >> >> % lsb_

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-12-02 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Dec 2022 at 09:04:35 (+0100), Loïc Grenié wrote: > On Fri Dec 2 2022 at 04:31, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 30 Nov 2022 at 14:25:19 (+0100), Loïc Grenié wrote: > > > Happened once again. This time I think the culprit was udev (but I > > > cannot > > > be too sure). Among the upda

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-12-02 Thread Loïc Grenié
On Fri Dec 2 2022 at 04:31, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 30 Nov 2022 at 14:25:19 (+0100), Loïc Grenié wrote: > > Happened once again. This time I think the culprit was udev (but I > > cannot > > be too sure). Among the updated package nothing should have killed X: > > beyond udev there wa

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-12-01 Thread David Wright
On Wed 30 Nov 2022 at 14:25:19 (+0100), Loïc Grenié wrote: > Happened once again. This time I think the culprit was udev (but I > cannot > be too sure). Among the updated package nothing should have killed X: > beyond udev there was a bunch of libreoffice and related (not using right > n

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-12-01 Thread David Wright
On Thu 01 Dec 2022 at 17:45:25 (-0700), Tom Dial wrote: > On 11/29/22 15:35, Loïc Grenié wrote: > >     Dear Debian users, > > > >     when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more > >   or less) find myself brutally logged out of the window system, &

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-12-01 Thread Geoff
Loïc Grenié wrote:     Dear Debian users,     when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more   or less) find myself brutally logged out of the window system,   with systemd services painfully restarting (or failing to restart).   The only way I can recover is usually to

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-12-01 Thread Tom Dial
On 11/29/22 15:35, Loïc Grenié wrote:     Dear Debian users,     when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more   or less) find myself brutally logged out of the window system,   with systemd services painfully restarting (or failing to restart).   The only way I can

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-12-01 Thread tomas
On Thu, Dec 01, 2022 at 12:34:35AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> The one application I do avoid upgrading while it's running is > >> Firefox, but that's mainly because it occasionally gives a new > >> startup screen after an upgrade, and I want to read what it says. > > > > I take the risk and

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> The one application I do avoid upgrading while it's running is >> Firefox, but that's mainly because it occasionally gives a new >> startup screen after an upgrade, and I want to read what it says. > > I take the risk and watch the thing going down in flames. I > admit that it gives me a strange

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 02:36:57PM -0600, David Wright wrote: [...] > The only reasons I'd close down X are (a) a dist-upgrade from > oldstable to stable (and the like), That I do, too. > and (b) dpkg-reconfigure > console-setup and keyboard-configuration after I've been > t

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread David Wright
On Wed 30 Nov 2022 at 08:42:41 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:36:43AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > I learned many many moons ago to not trust any update/upgrade process to not > > interfere with a running X session. I usually close apps I don't want data > > lost

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
a very rare while, upgrade will stall until I say yes or no when it asks if I want to restart exim and a second program that I can't remember. > Still, it never happened to me, and I dist-upgrade roughly once > a week. I run "apt-get upgrade". It will take me a few days to remembe

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Loïc Grenié
Happened once again. This time I think the culprit was udev (but I cannot be too sure). Among the updated package nothing should have killed X: beyond udev there was a bunch of libreoffice and related (not using right now), zathura (not using), not much more, at the very least, nothing t

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 06:16:04AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > FWIW it never happened to me. But: I'm on a pretty minimal system by > today's standards (X, Fvwm). The only application behaving strangely > after a dist-upgrade is... the browser, Firefix: "Ohmigod, something > funny happened, I'

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Lee
On 11/30/22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:44:49AM +0100, DdB wrote: >> Am 29.11.2022 um 23:35 schrieb Loïc Grenié: >> > when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more >> > or less) find myself brutally logged out of the

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Anssi Saari
Jeffrey Walton writes: > KDE works as expected. Yep. > God bless those who have stuck with GNOME after the change to GNOME3. > They have the tolerance of saints. I have to agree. I did get Gnome 3 to somewhere I kinda liked but when an updated wiped my customizations, it was time to say good b

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Loïc Grenié
Thanks Tomas, and thanks to all those responded, On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 06:16, Tomas wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:44:49AM +0100, DdB wrote: > > Am 29.11.2022 um 23:35 schrieb Loïc Grenié: > > > when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more >

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-29 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:36:43AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: [...] > What I have noticed in Debian that I do not at all like, is when I boot to > multi-user.target for the specific purpose of apt or apt-get upgrading, even > when > systemctl get-default returns multi-user.target, that if the DM

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-29 Thread Felix Miata
Loïc Grenié composed on 2022-11-29 23:35 (UTC+0100): > when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more > or less) find myself brutally logged out of the window system, > with systemd services painfully restarting (or failing to restart). > The only way I ca

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-29 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:16 AM wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:44:49AM +0100, DdB wrote: > > Am 29.11.2022 um 23:35 schrieb Loïc Grenié: > > > when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more > > > or less) find myself brutally l

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-29 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:44:49AM +0100, DdB wrote: > Am 29.11.2022 um 23:35 schrieb Loïc Grenié: > >     when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more > >   or less) find myself brutally logged out of the window system, > >   with systemd services painfully r

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-29 Thread DdB
Am 29.11.2022 um 23:35 schrieb Loïc Grenié: >     when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more >   or less) find myself brutally logged out of the window system, >   with systemd services painfully restarting (or failing to restart). >   The only way I can recover i

Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-29 Thread Loïc Grenié
Dear Debian users, when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more or less) find myself brutally logged out of the window system, with systemd services painfully restarting (or failing to restart). The only way I can recover is usually to reboot. I've tri

Re: does apt upgrade & full-upgrade packages from Security Updates (Debian Security Advisories (DSA))

2022-11-13 Thread jindam, vani
On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 09:56:21AM +, jindam, vani wrote: > i have only deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free > in my sources.list. > > does apt upgrade & full-upgrade packages from Security Updates (Debian > Security Advisories (DSA))? > N

Re: does apt upgrade & full-upgrade packages from Security Updates (Debian Security Advisories (DSA))

2022-11-13 Thread tomas
On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 09:56:21AM +, jindam, vani wrote: > i have only deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free > in my sources.list. > > does apt upgrade & full-upgrade packages from Security Updates (Debian > Security Advisories (DSA))? No,

does apt upgrade & full-upgrade packages from Security Updates (Debian Security Advisories (DSA))

2022-11-13 Thread jindam, vani
i have only deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free in my sources.list. does apt upgrade & full-upgrade packages from Security Updates (Debian Security Advisories (DSA))? which is correct? deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main con

Re: Apt upgrade problem

2022-10-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 23:44:00 +0100 Mark Fletcher wrote: > "apt list --upgradable" shows a new version of the Amazon Workspaces > client, version 4.3.0.1766. It also shows that there is one more > version available. This may be a silly question, but have you checked with Amazon customer support?

Re: Apt upgrade problem

2022-10-17 Thread hede
On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 23:44:00 +0100 Mark Fletcher wrote: > After "sudo apt update", the system informs me there is 1 package that can > be upgraded. > > "sudo apt upgrade" reports nothing to do, 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly > installed, 0 to remove and 0 n

Re: Apt upgrade problem

2022-10-16 Thread David Wright
On Sun 16 Oct 2022 at 23:44:00 (+0100), Mark Fletcher wrote: > > Tonight I am seeing a behaviour pattern in my Debian Bullseye system that I > have not seen before. > > After "sudo apt update", the system informs me there is 1 package that can > be upgraded. >

Apt upgrade problem

2022-10-16 Thread Mark Fletcher
Hi Tonight I am seeing a behaviour pattern in my Debian Bullseye system that I have not seen before. After "sudo apt update", the system informs me there is 1 package that can be upgraded. "sudo apt upgrade" reports nothing to do, 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0

Re: adding trouble on the trouble (using apt upgrade)

2022-03-14 Thread Patrice Duroux
ps: sorry, on a Debian Sid system for sure. Le lun. 14 mars 2022 à 19:41, Patrice Duroux a écrit : > > Hi, > > Since some versions ago, apt/dpkg(?) is stopping its process (upgrade > here) whatever the packaging trouble it is facing. But in some cases, it > may leave the system more broken than

adding trouble on the trouble (using apt upgrade)

2022-03-14 Thread Patrice Duroux
Hi, Since some versions ago, apt/dpkg(?) is stopping its process (upgrade here) whatever the packaging trouble it is facing. But in some cases, it may leave the system more broken than it would become just by 'skipping' the troubling package. For instance, in the upgrading transaction list were so

Re: systemd[1]: Starting Daily apt upgrade and clean activities...

2022-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 02:25:35PM -0500, Lee wrote: > Apparently the syslog message > systemd[1]: Starting Daily apt upgrade and clean activities... > is caused by systemd / apt-daily.timer - correct? No, that one is from apt-daily-upgrade.timer: $ grep -r "upgrade a

Re: systemd[1]: Starting Daily apt upgrade and clean activities...

2022-02-08 Thread ghe2001
have the latest news, and an 'apt upgrade' if necessary (that's where I find out just what's available), and everything's already there -- at least I think it is; the updating's real fast. Even when it's updating Firefox or the kernel. I do the same via

Re: systemd[1]: Starting Daily apt upgrade and clean activities...

2022-02-08 Thread David Wright
On Tue 08 Feb 2022 at 14:25:35 (-0500), Lee wrote: > Apparently the syslog message > systemd[1]: Starting Daily apt upgrade and clean activities... > is caused by systemd / apt-daily.timer - correct? > > # sudo systemctl status apt-daily.timer > ● apt-daily.timer - Daily apt d

Re: systemd[1]: Starting Daily apt upgrade and clean activities...

2022-02-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Lee wrote: > Apparently the syslog message > systemd[1]: Starting Daily apt upgrade and clean activities... > is caused by systemd / apt-daily.timer - correct? > > # sudo systemctl status apt-daily.timer > ● apt-daily.timer - Daily apt download activities > Loaded:

Re: systemd[1]: Starting Daily apt upgrade and clean activities...

2022-02-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 02:25:35PM -0500, Lee wrote: > Apparently the syslog message > systemd[1]: Starting Daily apt upgrade and clean activities... > is caused by systemd / apt-daily.timer - correct? > > # sudo systemctl status apt-daily.timer > ● apt-daily.timer -

systemd[1]: Starting Daily apt upgrade and clean activities...

2022-02-08 Thread Lee
Apparently the syslog message systemd[1]: Starting Daily apt upgrade and clean activities... is caused by systemd / apt-daily.timer - correct? # sudo systemctl status apt-daily.timer ● apt-daily.timer - Daily apt download activities Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/apt-daily.timer

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-30 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, 2021-08-30 at 21:53 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 10 aug 21, 13:32:09, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > How can I determine what the "1 not upgraded" package might be? > > > > > > ~$ apt-get update > > Hit:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease > > Hit:2 http://security.deb

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 10 aug 21, 13:32:09, Jim Popovitch wrote: > How can I determine what the "1 not upgraded" package might be? > > > ~$ apt-get update > Hit:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease > Hit:2 http://security.debian.org bullseye-security InRelease > Hit:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org/de

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-11 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 8/10/21, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 18:59 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> >> The OP claimed they have nothing pinned, but presented no evidence to >> support this claim. Perhaps they thought that because they didn't >> explicitly *pin* anything themselves, there must not be an

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue 10 Aug 2021 at 14:09:27 (-0400), Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 14:00 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 01:57:13PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > ~$ apt-get -sV full-upgrade > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > Building dependency tree... Done > >

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 18:59 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 08:27:03AM +1000, David wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 03:32, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > > > apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded > > > > > How can I determine

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 08:27:03AM +1000, David wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 03:32, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded > > > How can I determine what the "1 not upgraded" package might be? > > Hi, I dunno if thi

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread David
On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 03:32, Jim Popovitch wrote: > apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded > How can I determine what the "1 not upgraded" package might be? Hi, I dunno if this message will be of any use, because other suggestions indicate that this might be due to

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread didier gaumet
Hello, If for example you have set up unattended-upgrades and installed apt- listbugs, then when unattended-upgrades runs, apt-listbugs automatically pins (-3) upgradable packages that are affected by bugs in order for them to be hold until a fix. They are automatically de-pinned when bugs are

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 20:03 +0200, john doe wrote: > On 8/10/2021 7:57 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 19:49 +0200, john doe wrote: > > > On 8/10/2021 7:32 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > > How can I determine what the "1 not upgraded" package might be? > > > > > > > > > > > > ~

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 14:00 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 01:57:13PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > ~$ apt-get -sV full-upgrade > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree... Done > > Calculating upgrade... Done > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to rem

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread john doe
On 8/10/2021 7:57 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 19:49 +0200, john doe wrote: On 8/10/2021 7:32 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: How can I determine what the "1 not upgraded" package might be? ~$ apt-get update Hit:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease Hit:2 http://secu

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 01:57:13PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > ~$ apt-get -sV full-upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > Calculating upgrade... Done > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Have you tried Google yet? https://unix.st

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 19:49 +0200, john doe wrote: > On 8/10/2021 7:32 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > How can I determine what the "1 not upgraded" package might be? > > > > > > ~$ apt-get update > > Hit:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease > > Hit:2 http://security.debian.org bulls

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread john doe
On 8/10/2021 7:32 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: How can I determine what the "1 not upgraded" package might be? ~$ apt-get update Hit:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease Hit:2 http://security.debian.org bullseye-security InRelease Hit:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye-updat

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 12:37 -0500, Lance Simmons wrote: > apt list --upgradeable :( ~$ apt list --upgradeable Listing... Done Thanks for suggesting that though. -Jim P.

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread Lance Simmons
apt list --upgradeable On Aug 10 2021, at 12:32 pm, Jim Popovitch wrote: > How can I determine what the "1 not upgraded" package might be? > > > ~$ apt-get update > Hit:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease > Hit:2 http://security.debian.org bullseye-security InRelease > Hit:3

apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
How can I determine what the "1 not upgraded" package might be? ~$ apt-get update Hit:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease Hit:2 http://security.debian.org bullseye-security InRelease Hit:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates InRelease Reading package lists... Done

Re: minimize daemon downtime for apt upgrade

2021-04-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 01:47:22PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:46:06 -0500 > Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > > > If I wait for a few months to perform an "apt upgrade", many packages > > get upgraded. > > ... > > > Is there somet

Re: minimize daemon downtime for apt upgrade

2021-04-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:46:06 -0500 Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > If I wait for a few months to perform an "apt upgrade", many packages > get upgraded. ... > Is there something more elegant? As Dan Ritter already mentioned, you can configure a failover DHCP server, usually a goo

Re: minimize daemon downtime for apt upgrade

2021-04-08 Thread Joe
On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:46:06 -0500 Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > Greetings! > > Scenario: > > I have a Sid desktop computer that acts as a router for my home > network. > > If I wait for a few months to perform an "apt upgrade", many packages > get upgraded. >

Re: minimize daemon downtime for apt upgrade

2021-04-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 10:46:06AM -0500, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > Greetings! > > Scenario: > > I have a Sid desktop computer that acts as a router for my home network. > > If I wait for a few months to perform an "apt upgrade", many packages get > upgr

Re: minimize daemon downtime for apt upgrade

2021-04-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > I have a Sid desktop computer that acts as a router for my home network. I have a Stable mini-ITX "desktop" computer that acts as a router for my home network. > If I wait for a few months to perform an "apt upgrade", many packages get >

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