Loïc Grenié composed on 2022-11-29 23:35 (UTC+0100):

>     when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more
>   or less) find myself brutally logged out of the window system,
>   with systemd services painfully restarting (or failing to restart).
>   The only way I can recover is usually to reboot. I've tried to
>   manually stop, kill the leftover processes and restart the services,
>   one after the other, but it's very long and does not always work.
>   I have observed this situation for a few years (maybe two or three,
>   maybe more, I'm slow to bore).

>     Am I the only one? Is there a way to upgrade the system without
>   rebooting as it used to be a few years ago? I remember updating
>   libc.so without rebooting -- only the kernel needed reboot, and
>   the window system, if specific files changed.

I learned many many moons ago to not trust any update/upgrade process to not
interfere with a running X session. I usually close apps I don't want data lost
from before beginning an upgrade process. That usually means I log all the way 
out
of X entirely, then start the upgrade from a vtty.

What I have noticed in Debian that I do not at all like, is when I boot to
multi-user.target for the specific purpose of apt or apt-get upgrading, even 
when
systemctl get-default returns multi-user.target, that if the DM is upgraded, X
gets started shortly following. :(
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Felix Miata

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