Loïc Grenié composed on 2022-11-29 23:35 (UTC+0100): > when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more > or less) find myself brutally logged out of the window system, > with systemd services painfully restarting (or failing to restart). > The only way I can recover is usually to reboot. I've tried to > manually stop, kill the leftover processes and restart the services, > one after the other, but it's very long and does not always work. > I have observed this situation for a few years (maybe two or three, > maybe more, I'm slow to bore).
> Am I the only one? Is there a way to upgrade the system without > rebooting as it used to be a few years ago? I remember updating > libc.so without rebooting -- only the kernel needed reboot, and > the window system, if specific files changed. I learned many many moons ago to not trust any update/upgrade process to not interfere with a running X session. I usually close apps I don't want data lost from before beginning an upgrade process. That usually means I log all the way out of X entirely, then start the upgrade from a vtty. What I have noticed in Debian that I do not at all like, is when I boot to multi-user.target for the specific purpose of apt or apt-get upgrading, even when systemctl get-default returns multi-user.target, that if the DM is upgraded, X gets started shortly following. :( -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata