Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 8:57 PM Gilles Mocellin wrote: > > Le lundi 12 février 2024, 19:23:39 CET Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : > > Salut > > > > Merci pour l'info > > > > Malheureusement même si j'entrevois de quoi tu parles, je ne sais pas trop > > comment faire en pratique. > > > > Donc si

Re: stretch with bullseye kernel?

2022-05-04 Thread Richard Hector
On 4/05/22 18:57, Tixy wrote: On Wed, 2022-05-04 at 00:44 +0300, IL Ka wrote: Linux kernel is backward compatible. Linus calls it "we do not break userspace". That means _old_ applications should work on new kernel There's also the issue of what config options the kernel is built with. I'm su

Re: stretch with bullseye kernel?

2022-05-03 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2022-05-04 at 00:44 +0300, IL Ka wrote: > Linux kernel is backward compatible. Linus calls it "we do not break > userspace". > That means _old_ applications should work on new kernel There's also the issue of what config options the kernel is built with. I'm sure there's been at least one

Re: stretch with bullseye kernel?

2022-05-03 Thread IL Ka
Linux kernel is backward compatible. Linus calls it "we do not break userspace". That means _old_ applications should work on new kernel On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:40 AM Richard Hector wrote: > Hi all, > > For various reasons, I have some stretch LXC containers, on a buster > host that I now ne

Re: Stretch => Buster: iptables

2020-11-06 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2020-11-06 11:43, Sven Hartge wrote: Jesper Dybdal wrote: * The CT target, to add the ftp helper.  I fixed that by adding a bit of native nft with the nft command after all the iptables(-nft) commands. For the sake of the archive and people looking at this thread hoping for some insight, pl

Re: Stretch => Buster: iptables

2020-11-06 Thread Sven Hartge
Jesper Dybdal wrote: > * The CT target, to add the ftp helper.  I fixed that by adding a bit of > native nft with the nft command after all the iptables(-nft) commands. For the sake of the archive and people looking at this thread hoping for some insight, please post your native nft rules you c

Re: Stretch => Buster: iptables

2020-11-06 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2020-10-16 12:25, I wrote: I have a lot of iptables rules. Is it correctly understood that the upgrade to Buster will automatically install iptables-nft, and that iptablés-nft provides complete and compatible support for the functionality of the old iptables command, so I can expect my ipt

Re: Stretch => Buster: obsolete packages

2020-10-25 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2020-10-23 18:02, Clive Standbridge wrote: Can I expect that they will also survive the upgrade to Buster? Yes. I have done that, and the old squirrelmail package remained installed in buster. I don't remember any special effort to keep it, but it was a while ago. You'd better make sure yo

Re: Stretch => Buster: obsolete packages

2020-10-23 Thread Clive Standbridge
> Somehow both of those survived the upgrade from Jessie to Stretch (at a time > when I was not aware of the potential problem), and squirrelmail still works > fine. > > Can I expect that they will also survive the upgrade to Buster? Yes. I have done that, and the old squirrelmail package remai

Re: Stretch => Buster: obsolete packages

2020-10-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Jesper Dybdal wrote: > I use squirrelmail, and squirrelmail uses php5. > Somehow both of those survived the upgrade from Jessie to Stretch (at > a time when I was not aware of the potential problem), and > squirrelmail still works fine. > Can I expect that they will also survive the upgrade to

Re: Stretch => Buster: AppArmor

2020-10-16 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 16 oct. 2020 à 12:23 de jd-debian-u...@dybdal.dk: > Is there a simple way to disable AppArmor completely until I've had time to > figure out what to do with it long-term? > Considering you are not asking for removal but just deactivation, the simplest way to me seems to be the following:

Re: Stretch => Buster: AppArmor

2020-10-16 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2020-10-16 at 16:59 +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > On 2020-10-16 16:39, Tixy wrote: > > Or do what I did, just uninstall the apparmor package which is > > pulled > > in as a 'recommends' of the Linux kernel. Or pin it to priority -1 > > for > > extra paranoia. > > > > Thanks. But will it

Re: Stretch => Buster: AppArmor

2020-10-16 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2020-10-16 16:39, Tixy wrote: Or do what I did, just uninstall the apparmor package which is pulled in as a 'recommends' of the Linux kernel. Or pin it to priority -1 for extra paranoia. Thanks.  But will it not be reinstalled the next time there is a kernel update? -- Jesper Dybdal ht

Re: Stretch => Buster: AppArmor

2020-10-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 03:39:29PM +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2020-10-16 at 13:30 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:23:30PM +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > [...] > > > Is there a simple way to disable AppArmor completely until I've had > > > time to figure out what

Re: Stretch => Buster: Entropy during boot

2020-10-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Jesper, On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:28:13PM +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > I run a few Stretch systems on old processors that do not support the RDRAND > instruction. > > Can I simply install "haveged" on the Stretch systems *before* the upgrade > to Buster to avoid problems during the upgrade?

Re: Stretch => Buster: AppArmor

2020-10-16 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2020-10-16 at 13:30 +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:23:30PM +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: [...] > > Is there a simple way to disable AppArmor completely until I've had > > time to figure out what to do with it long-term? > > Adding "apparmor=0" to your kernel cmdline shoul

Re: Stretch => Buster: iptables

2020-10-16 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le vendredi 16 octobre 2020 à 14:12:55+0200, Jesper Dybdal a écrit : > > On 2020-10-16 12:35, Reco wrote: > > Barring some kernel bugs - yes. > > For instance, I've seen kernel panics because of simple: > > > > iptables -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID -j DROP > > Aargh!   I had not reali

Re: Stretch => Buster: Entropy during boot

2020-10-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 03:49:27PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 16 oct 20, 12:28:13, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > > The Buster release notes warn about a possibly insufficient entropy source > > during boot and recommends installing "haveged" on systems with that > > problem. > > >

Re: Stretch => Buster: Entropy during boot

2020-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 16 oct 20, 12:28:13, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > The Buster release notes warn about a possibly insufficient entropy source > during boot and recommends installing "haveged" on systems with that > problem. > > I run a few Stretch systems on old processors that do not support the RDRAND > instruc

Re: Stretch => Buster: iptables

2020-10-16 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2020-10-16 12:35, Reco wrote: Barring some kernel bugs - yes. For instance, I've seen kernel panics because of simple: iptables -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID -j DROP Aargh!   I had not realized that I would have to be prepared for kernel panics during the upgrade, so I really a

Re: Stretch => Buster: Entropy during boot

2020-10-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:28:13PM +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > Can I simply install "haveged" on the Stretch systems *before* the > upgrade to Buster to avoid problems during the upgrade? If you have a hardware random generator on these systems (i.e. you see /dev/hwrng there) - you

Re: Stretch => Buster: iptables

2020-10-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:25:23PM +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > I have a lot of iptables rules. > > Is it correctly understood that the upgrade to Buster will automatically > install iptables-nft, and that iptablés-nft provides complete and compatible > support > for the functional

Re: Stretch => Buster: AppArmor

2020-10-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:23:30PM +0200, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > Buster enables AppArmor by default.  I know just about nothing at all > about AppArmor.  Does it constitute a risk that some of my existing > programs will not work? Depends. AppArmor is applied per-binary. If you're usi

Re: stretch vs iptables auto-start

2020-08-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 24 August 2020 17:03:13 Andrew Cater wrote: > Start here perhaps? https://wiki.debian.org/nftables > > It should be relatively straightforward to move backward and forwards. > Working as a systemd service means that it will start automatically if > you're using systemd. > > [When in doub

Re: stretch vs iptables auto-start

2020-08-24 Thread Andrew Cater
Start here perhaps? https://wiki.debian.org/nftables It should be relatively straightforward to move backward and forwards. Working as a systemd service means that it will start automatically if you're using systemd. [When in doubt, check the Debian wiki for a topic - if that's no good, have a qu

Re: stretch vs iptables auto-start

2020-08-24 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > At the present time I have around 80 rules, all designed to deny the > network spiders and bots that think they have to mirror my several > giga-byte site, 2 or 3 times a day.  And that was eating up my bandwidth > allocation on a slow net connection. > > Is there a tut some

Re: stretch vs iptables auto-start

2020-08-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 02:26:19PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Since the big conversion of file structs vs who owns what, The what? I can't even parse that. > which > apparently includes running rc.local as the logged in user and not as > root, Now that is pure nonsense. You're just inventi

Re: stretch vs iptables auto-start

2020-08-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 24 August 2020 04:45:01 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 23 aug 20, 21:34:12, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 23 August 2020 15:45:22 Joe wrote: > > > My server iptables is inherited from, I think, sarge, so it's > > > probably not done optimally today. It's an init script run from > > >

Re: stretch vs iptables auto-start

2020-08-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 23 aug 20, 21:34:12, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 23 August 2020 15:45:22 Joe wrote: > > > > My server iptables is inherited from, I think, sarge, so it's probably > > not done optimally today. It's an init script run from /etc/rcS.d. > > Ah,/etc/rcS.d/S18netfilter-persistent > but that

Re: stretch vs iptables auto-start

2020-08-24 Thread Joe
On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:34:12 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 23 August 2020 15:45:22 Joe wrote: > > > > > My server iptables is inherited from, I think, sarge, so it's > > probably not done optimally today. It's an init script run from > > /etc/rcS.d. > > Ah,/etc/rcS.d/S18netfilter-per

Re: stretch vs iptables auto-start

2020-08-24 Thread Tixy
On Sun, 2020-08-23 at 14:26 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > Since the big conversion of file structs vs who owns what, which > apparently includes running rc.local as the logged in user and not > as > root, that has hidden the iptables stuff from everybody but root > since > its

Re: stretch vs iptables auto-start

2020-08-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 August 2020 16:10:10 deloptes wrote: > Hi Gene, > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Since the big conversion of file structs vs who owns what, which > > apparently includes running rc.local as the logged in user and not > > as root, that has hidden the iptables stuff from everybody but root >

Re: stretch vs iptables auto-start

2020-08-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 August 2020 15:45:22 Joe wrote: > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 14:26:19 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > Since the big conversion of file structs vs who owns what, which > > apparently includes running rc.local as the logged in user and not > > as root, that has hidden

Re: stretch vs iptables auto-start

2020-08-23 Thread deloptes
Hi Gene, Gene Heskett wrote: > Since the big conversion of file structs vs who owns what, which > apparently includes running rc.local as the logged in user and not as > root, that has hidden the iptables stuff from everybody but root since > its not now in the users $PATH. > I was running home

Re: stretch vs iptables auto-start

2020-08-23 Thread Joe
On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 14:26:19 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > Since the big conversion of file structs vs who owns what, which > apparently includes running rc.local as the logged in user and not as > root, that has hidden the iptables stuff from everybody but root > since its no

Re: stretch uefi install ends up with no framebuffer for console

2020-07-18 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 16:45:33 + rbraun204 wrote: > Hey all, i'm installing stretch onto a HP Z4G4 workstation via > netboot and in uefi mode. The only video hardware in the box is a > NVIDIA Corporation GP107GL [Quadro P620]. The install goes as > expected. Only installed standard utils

Re: stretch -> buster upgrade fails

2020-05-11 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 11/05/2020 09:23, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 10/05/2020 19:02, Sven Hartge wrote: Tony van der Hoff wrote: E: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'if /usr/bin/test -w /var/cache/app-info -a -e /usr/bin/appstreamcli; then appstreamcli refresh-cache > /dev/null;

Re: stretch -> buster upgrade fails

2020-05-11 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 10/05/2020 19:02, Sven Hartge wrote: Tony van der Hoff wrote: E: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'if /usr/bin/test -w /var/cache/app-info -a -e /usr/bin/appstreamcli; then appstreamcli refresh-cache > /dev/null; fi' E: Sub-process returned an error code I do

Re: stretch -> buster upgrade fails

2020-05-10 Thread Sven Hartge
Tony van der Hoff wrote: > E: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'if > /usr/bin/test -w /var/cache/app-info -a -e /usr/bin/appstreamcli; then > appstreamcli refresh-cache > /dev/null; fi' > E: Sub-process returned an error code > I don't know where to find a verbose log

Re: Stretch to Buster upgrade from local nonfree DVD iso

2020-01-15 Thread Brian
On Wed 15 Jan 2020 at 08:08:30 -0800, Alan Savage wrote: > I am trying to upgrade from stretch to buster using the nonfree > installation DVD ISO "firmware-10.2.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso" that I downloaded > using the torrent here: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firm

Re: Stretch Backports Kernel

2019-10-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 23 sep 19, 07:23:05, Karolis Pabijanskas wrote: > Hey Everyone! > > `stretch-backports` kernel seems to have broken dependencies since a > few days ago. In particular this package: > https://packages.debian.org/stretch-backports/linux-image-amd64 seems > to have a broken dependency for l

Re: Stretch Backports Kernel

2019-09-23 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 9/23/19, Karolis Pabijanskas wrote: > Hey Everyone! > > `stretch-backports` kernel seems to have broken dependencies since a few > days ago. In particular this package: > https://packages.debian.org/stretch-backports/linux-image-amd64 seems to > have a broken dependency for linux-image-4.19.0-0

Re: Stretch to Buster results in strange problems

2019-09-20 Thread Thomas George
Escaped from gnome. While working in gnome the visibility of my mouse pointer became very erratic, often visible only at the margins of a window. I would then have to move the mouse and guess where it pointed in the window. The computer was all but unusable so I rebooted. Having been schooled i

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-18 Thread David Wright
On Wed 18 Sep 2019 at 12:06:00 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2019-09-17, Sven Joachim wrote: > > On 2019-09-17 11:10 -0500, David Wright wrote: > >> > >> Well, the only link *needed* is init, hence its dependency on package > >> init, whose sole function is to keep the number of init configurations >

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-18 Thread Curt
On 2019-09-17, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2019-09-17 11:10 -0500, David Wright wrote: > >> >> Well, the only link *needed* is init, hence its dependency on package >> init, whose sole function is to keep the number of init configurations >> more than zero and less than two. >> >> The rest of those l

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-18 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 05:06:52PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > I can't believe people are still adding cruft to sysv-rc helpers in 2019. Luckily, "real world" is much more colourful and diverse than your (or my -- or anyone's!) beliefs ;-) Cheers -- tomás signature.asc Description: Di

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:59:53PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2019-09-17 09:13 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > wooledg:~$ aptitude why systemd-sysv > > i udev Depends dpkg (>= 1.19.3) | systemd-sysv > > > > OK... I'll admit, I do not quite understand that dependency. > > The udev init scrip

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2019-09-17 09:13 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 11:11:33PM +0100, Brian wrote: >> What causes systemd-sysv to be installed? > > wooledg:~$ aptitude why systemd-sysv > i udev Depends dpkg (>= 1.19.3) | systemd-sysv > > OK... I'll admit, I do not quite understand that dep

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2019-09-17 11:10 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Well, the only link *needed* is init, hence its dependency on package > init, whose sole function is to keep the number of init configurations > more than zero and less than two. > > The rest of those links just mean that I can read, say, a 60 lin

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Sep 2019 at 13:29:16 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 06:25:05PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > Upgrades from wheezy to jessie did not change the init system because > > libpame-systemd had the dependency > > > > systemd-shim (>= 8-2) | systemd-sysv > > https://www.debi

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 06:25:05PM +0100, Brian wrote: > Upgrades from wheezy to jessie did not change the init system because > libpame-systemd had the dependency > > systemd-shim (>= 8-2) | systemd-sysv https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#issues-sys

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Sep 2019 at 09:13:30 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 11:11:33PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > What causes systemd-sysv to be installed? > > wooledg:~$ aptitude why systemd-sysv > i udev Depends dpkg (>= 1.19.3) | systemd-sysv > > OK... I'll admit, I do not quite under

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Sep 2019 at 10:37:15 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 15 Sep 2019 at 23:31:23 +0100, Roger Lynn wrote: > > > I have three Stretch AMD64 systems with sysvinit - a desktop and laptop > > running KDE and a headless server. Is there any information available > > anywhere to tell me what will ha

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread David Wright
On Tue 17 Sep 2019 at 09:45:21 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 09:40:50AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > I believe its name was chosen with > > insufficient consideration, and is not in fact derived from its > > function. > > You're not looking closely enough. > > > $ apt-

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread Curt
On 2019-09-17, The Wanderer wrote: >>> Yes, but unless I'm greatly misunderstanding matters, /sbin/init is >>> not specific to sysvinit. >> That's okay, as I never came close to claiming it was. But you focus >> uniquely upon this "point," while ignoring the part about the "links >> needed for s

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-09-17 at 09:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 09:40:50AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> I believe its name was chosen with >> insufficient consideration, and is not in fact derived from its >> function. > > You're not looking closely enough. > >> $ apt-file show systemd

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 09:40:50AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > I believe its name was chosen with > insufficient consideration, and is not in fact derived from its > function. You're not looking closely enough. > $ apt-file show systemd-sysv > systemd-sysv: /sbin/halt > systemd-sysv: /sbin/init

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-09-17 at 09:28, Curt wrote: > On 2019-09-17, The Wanderer wrote: > >>> Why he would say "despite its name" eludes this correspondent, >>> because the package has *everything* to do with sysvinit, >>> providing as it does the "links needed for systemd to replace >>> sysvinit. Installing

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread Curt
On 2019-09-17, The Wanderer wrote: >> Why he would say "despite its name" eludes this correspondent, >> because the package has *everything* to do with sysvinit, providing >> as it does the "links needed for systemd to replace sysvinit. >> Installing systemd-sysv will overwrite /sbin/init with a

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-09-17 at 09:13, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 11:11:33PM +0100, Brian wrote: > >> What causes systemd-sysv to be installed? > > wooledg:~$ aptitude why systemd-sysv > i udev Depends dpkg (>= 1.19.3) | systemd-sysv > > OK... I'll admit, I do not quite understand that de

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 11:11:33PM +0100, Brian wrote: > What causes systemd-sysv to be installed? wooledg:~$ aptitude why systemd-sysv i udev Depends dpkg (>= 1.19.3) | systemd-sysv OK... I'll admit, I do not quite understand that dependency. But what I really need to do is check this on a je

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-09-17 at 04:09, Curt wrote: > On 2019-09-16, Brian wrote: [that on some earlier date which has been clipped out, someone else - who happens to be The Wanderer - wrote:] >>> The dist-upgrade will have resulted in installing the >>> systemd-sysv package, which (despite its name) has nothi

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 Sep 2019 at 23:31:23 +0100, Roger Lynn wrote: > I have three Stretch AMD64 systems with sysvinit - a desktop and laptop > running KDE and a headless server. Is there any information available > anywhere to tell me what will happen when I attempt to upgrade them to > Buster? The release n

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-17 Thread Curt
On 2019-09-16, Brian wrote: >> >> The dist-upgrade will have resulted in installing the systemd-sysv >> package, which (despite its name) has nothing to do with sysvinit; it is >> the package which sets systemd as the primary / active / default init >> system. >> >> Installing sysvinit-core will

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-16 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 3:17 PM The Wanderer wrote: > >> If you want to keep sysvinit, here's the order of events: > >> > >> change sources from stretch to buster > > > > Fine. > > > >> apt update > > > > Splendid. > > > >> apt dist-upgrade > > > > Great. > > > >> apt install sysvinit-core > >

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Brian (2019-09-17 00:11:33) > On Mon 16 Sep 2019 at 15:16:34 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > > On 2019-09-16 at 15:07, Brian wrote: > > > > > On Sun 15 Sep 2019 at 21:52:50 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > >> Roger Lynn wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> I have three Stretch AM

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-16 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-09-16 at 18:11, Brian wrote: > On Mon 16 Sep 2019 at 15:16:34 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2019-09-16 at 15:07, Brian wrote: >> >>> On Sun 15 Sep 2019 at 21:52:50 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: apt install sysvinit-core >>> >>> What happens if this is not done? >> >> Next time yo

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-16 Thread Brian
On Mon 16 Sep 2019 at 15:16:34 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2019-09-16 at 15:07, Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 15 Sep 2019 at 21:52:50 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > >> Roger Lynn wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I have three Stretch AMD64 systems with sysvinit - a desktop and > >>> laptop run

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-16 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-09-16 at 15:07, Brian wrote: > On Sun 15 Sep 2019 at 21:52:50 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > >> Roger Lynn wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have three Stretch AMD64 systems with sysvinit - a desktop and >>> laptop running KDE and a headless server. Is there any >>> information available anywhere

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-16 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 Sep 2019 at 21:52:50 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Roger Lynn wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have three Stretch AMD64 systems with sysvinit - a desktop and laptop > > running KDE and a headless server. Is there any information available > > anywhere to tell me what will happen when I attempt to

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Dan Ritter (2019-09-16 03:52:50) > Roger Lynn wrote: > > The KDE systems have systemd-shim installed, which is not present in > > Buster. Is this going to cause problems? Will the server be okay? > > Should I just stay with Stretch until Bullseye is released or > > consider moving to De

Re: Stretch to Buster with sysvinit

2019-09-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Roger Lynn wrote: > Hi, > > I have three Stretch AMD64 systems with sysvinit - a desktop and laptop > running KDE and a headless server. Is there any information available > anywhere to tell me what will happen when I attempt to upgrade them to > Buster? The release notes don't mention it and oth

Re: stretch: amd64, no dmesg when usb stuff plugged in

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 12:53:54 Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 10:44:45 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > I found it. A staples brand usb hub that has served on the end of an > > extension cable, as a place to plugin the dongles for the > > keyboard/mouse for the last 8 or so yea

Re: stretch: amd64, no dmesg when usb stuff plugged in

2019-09-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 10:44:45 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > I found it. A staples brand usb hub that has served on the end of an > extension cable, as a place to plugin the dongles for the > keyboard/mouse for the last 8 or so years was doing funkity things to > udev. Replaced with another off brand

Re: stretch: amd64, no dmesg when usb stuff plugged in

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 05 September 2019 19:11:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > So what utility thats supposed to monitor that, has taken a holiday? > > Thanks All. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett I found it. A staples brand usb hub that has served on the end of an extension cable, as a place to plugin

Re: stretch: amd64, no dmesg when usb stuff plugged in

2019-09-06 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 08:10:07PM -0400, bw wrote: > In-Reply-To: <201909051911.42570.ghesk...@shentel.net> > > Why do you continue with this type of post? It's a joke. I'm shocked > that anybody even answers this stupidity. If you don't like the thread, just keep out of it. If yo've got dif

Re: stretch: amd64, no dmesg when usb stuff plugged in

2019-09-05 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > Which made no diff. Whatever is supposed to be monitoring for new usb > connections is not. So what do I look at next? I suggest do a default installation from scratch to a disk (I know you have some) and try again. I guess you are messing too much with your system. AFAIK i

Re: stretch: amd64, no dmesg when usb stuff plugged in

2019-09-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 00:28:54 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 05 September 2019 20:10:07 bw wrote: > > In-Reply-To: <201909051911.42570.ghesk...@shentel.net> > > > > Why do you continue with this type of post? It's a joke. I'm > > shocked that anybody even answers this stupidity. > > Be

Re: stretch: amd64, no dmesg when usb stuff plugged in

2019-09-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 05 September 2019 20:10:07 bw wrote: > In-Reply-To: <201909051911.42570.ghesk...@shentel.net> > > Why do you continue with this type of post? It's a joke. I'm shocked > that anybody even answers this stupidity. Because something has failed. dmesg after a boot has quite a few of thes

Re: stretch: amd64, no dmesg when usb stuff plugged in

2019-09-05 Thread deloptes
bw wrote: > Why do you continue with this type of post?  It's a joke.  I'm shocked > that anybody even answers this stupidity. Have you not learned to show respect to elderly people?

Re: stretch debug updates missing?

2019-08-24 Thread john doe
On 8/24/2019 9:14 AM, and...@arobeia.co.uk wrote: > I'm trying to install some dgbsyms packages for my stretch system, but the > debug archive seems to be out of date relative to the stretch-updates archive > root@ceylon:/home/sunshine# apt install libreoffice-base-dbgsym > libreoffice-calc-dbgsy

Re: stretch vs ssh -Y logins

2019-04-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 28 April 2019 14:47:34 Gene Heskett wrote: > I just installed a stretch testing from the LCNC folks, and must say, > and shout from the rooftops, a thank you for the new partitioner. > Absolutely spot on, exactly whats been needed for 20 years!!! > Of course the network settings were lo

Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

2019-04-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 10:53:34AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > It looks like Synaptic starts with user privileges as a wrapper and > PolicyKit asks for root privileges to spawn actual synaptic process. Ah okay, my mistake. Synaptic is another piece of software I've never really

Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

2019-04-16 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 17.04.2019 8:51, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 01:15:07PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: >> On 16.04.2019 12:08, Andy Smith wrote: >>> I don't have seamonkey installed so haven't tried myself, but does >>> it even run as root? >>> >> I don't use SeaMonkey either, but

Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

2019-04-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 01:15:07PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 16.04.2019 12:08, Andy Smith wrote: > > I don't have seamonkey installed so haven't tried myself, but does > > it even run as root? > > > I don't use SeaMonkey either, but I'm pretty sure it does not need root > privi

Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

2019-04-16 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 16.04.2019 12:08, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:39:06AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: >> You can add SeaMonkey config manually if you want, but you will have to >> track the changes after that. >>     $ sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-www-browser

Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

2019-04-16 Thread didier gaumet
Le 15/04/2019 à 23:05, Richard Owlett a écrit : [...] >> root@fromdell:/home/richard# update-alternatives --config >> gnome-www-browser >> There is only one alternative in link group gnome-www-browser >> (providing /usr/bin/gnome-www-browser): /usr/bin/firefox-esr >> Nothing to configure. >> root@f

Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

2019-04-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:39:06AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > You can add SeaMonkey config manually if you want, but you will have to > track the changes after that. >     $ sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-www-browser > x-www-browser /your/path/to/seamonkey 100 I

Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

2019-04-15 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 16.04.2019 2:05, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/15/2019 01:14 PM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: >> On 15.04.2019 18:09, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> Somehow I had messed up preferred application to open a file. >>> I fixed by selecting a file of appropriate type, selecting >>> Properties, and settin

Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

2019-04-15 Thread Richard Owlett
On 04/15/2019 01:14 PM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 15.04.2019 18:09, Richard Owlett wrote: Somehow I had messed up preferred application to open a file. I fixed by selecting a file of appropriate type, selecting Properties, and setting preferred application. That solved almost all my pr

Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

2019-04-15 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 15.04.2019 18:09, Richard Owlett wrote: > Somehow I had messed up preferred application to open a file. > I fixed by selecting a file of appropriate type, selecting Properties, > and setting preferred application. > > That solved almost all my problems. > > The only exception is when using Synap

Re: stretch disk label problems

2019-04-05 Thread Doug
On 04/05/2019 01:13 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 05 April 2019 08:34:09 Cindy Sue Causey wrote: On 4/5/19, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 08:07:25AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: I need to fix the disk partition labels on this 2T drive I've installed stretch on. tune2fs

Re: stretch disk label problems

2019-04-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 April 2019 08:58:42 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2019-04-05 08:07 (UTC-0400): > > I need to fix the disk partition labels on this 2T drive I've > > installed stretch on. > > > > tune2fs on wheezy is too old, won't touch the stretch prepared > > drive. > > > > I haven'

Re: stretch disk label problems

2019-04-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 April 2019 08:34:09 Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 4/5/19, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 08:07:25AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> I need to fix the disk partition labels on this 2T drive I've > >> installed stretch on. > >> > >> tune2fs on wheezy is too old, won

Re: stretch disk label problems

2019-04-05 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-04-05 08:07 (UTC-0400): > I need to fix the disk partition labels on this 2T drive I've installed > stretch on. > tune2fs on wheezy is too old, won't touch the stretch prepared drive. > I haven't found a tune2fs yet on stretch, but did after 10 minutes of # which

Re: stretch disk label problems

2019-04-05 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 4/5/19, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 08:07:25AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> I need to fix the disk partition labels on this 2T drive I've installed >> stretch on. >> >> tune2fs on wheezy is too old, won't touch the stretch prepared drive. >> >> I haven't found a tune2fs y

Re: stretch disk label problems

2019-04-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 April 2019 08:13:14 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 08:07:25AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I need to fix the disk partition labels on this 2T drive I've > > installed stretch on. > > > > tune2fs on wheezy is too old, won't touch the stretch prepared > > drive. > >

Re: stretch disk label problems

2019-04-05 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 08:07:25AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I need to fix the disk partition labels on this 2T drive I've installed > stretch on. > > tune2fs on wheezy is too old, won't touch the stretch prepared drive. > > I haven't found a tune2fs yet on stretch, but did after 10 minutes o

Re: stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems.

2019-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 27 March 2019 19:29:55 Steve McIntyre wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > >On Wednesday 27 March 2019 13:31:35 Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> In article <201903271310.25490.ghesk...@shentel.net> you write: > >> >I pulled and burnt the netinstall, bad burn or bad checksum, but > >> > can't find

Re: stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems.

2019-03-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > Is your jigdo-lite old enough at all to suffer from the https > > blindness ? Gene Heskett wrote: > I have 7.3 on wheezy So you would have to download the .jigdo and .template files manually by wget or web browser. If you then run jigdo-lite in the directory with the downloaded

  1   2   3   4   5   6   >