Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-13 Thread cbannister
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 07:52:46PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 11 May 2016 at 06:36:43 +1200, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > > On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:57:34AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Sunday 01 May 2016 11:07:39 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > > > > > > "Do not submit an atta

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-10 Thread Brian
On Wed 11 May 2016 at 06:36:43 +1200, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:57:34AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 01 May 2016 11:07:39 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > > > > "Do not submit an attachment larger than 10 KiB. Consider using > > > paste.debian.ne

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-10 Thread cbannister
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:57:34AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 01 May 2016 11:07:39 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > > "Do not submit an attachment larger than 10 KiB. Consider using > > paste.debian.net and including a link in your post." > > > > From https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMa

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-10 Thread cbannister
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 12:41:10PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > > You know, I thought I had tried switching themes with out success. I just > tried it again and the Oxygen theme cleared up the problem. So this is the solution to a problem in another thread? :/ -- The media's the most powerful en

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 04:38:53PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > You know, I just looked at http://paste.debian,net. The site seems to be > more for pasting code snippets than anything else. While there is nothing > wrong with this, I don't see why they don't just paste the code directly > into their

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/03/2016 06:57 AM, heqami...@runbox.com wrote: On 05/03/2016 05:18 AM, Gary Roach wrote: I still haven't found a solution for the disappearance of all of my desktop icons. They are replaced with little transparent squares. They still work though. Try to change the theme you are using an

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 07:08:07PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Ralph Sanchez writes: > > I guess a lot of those 2.1 million customers probably live in very > > rural areas where maybe other forms aren't available, or the cost to > > lay wire would be more then they have. My thinking is, we have GPS

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread heqami...@runbox.com
On 05/03/2016 05:18 AM, Gary Roach wrote: > I still haven't found a solution for the disappearance of all of my > desktop icons. They are replaced with little transparent squares. They > still work though. Try to change the theme you are using and/or install some new themes. and/or install a d

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Brian
On Tue 03 May 2016 at 07:51:29 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2016-05-03 12:08 (UTC+0100): > > >On Mon 02 May 2016 at 23:43:45 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > >>thousands of mailing list subscribers. This list's subscribers can see in > >>the list posting rules that binary attachmen

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Felix Miata
Brian composed on 2016-05-03 12:08 (UTC+0100): On Mon 02 May 2016 at 23:43:45 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: thousands of mailing list subscribers. This list's subscribers can see in the list posting rules that binary attachments are not to be expected unless of nominal size, thus can feel safe th

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 May 2016 at 23:43:45 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Gary Roach composed on 2016-05-02 16:38 (UTC-0700): > > >... Someone needs to figure out a way to handle this without > >penalizing the rest of us. > > Penalizing is the emailing of unsolicited binary attachments to hundreds or Subscrib

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 03 May 2016 04:18:59 Gary Roach wrote: > I still haven't found a solution for the disappearance of all of my > desktop icons. They are replaced with little transparent squares. They > still work though. This problem got lost. I should start a new thread and explain it clearly, starti

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-05-01 11:57 (UTC-0400): So I'd like to prose a compromise that recognizes the folks still on dialup and at dialup speeds. Possibly paying by the minute for access. Some pay by the byte even with high bandwidth. Not attaching binaries is about not being wasteful g

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Felix Miata
Gary Roach composed on 2016-05-02 16:38 (UTC-0700): ... Someone needs to figure out a way to handle this without penalizing the rest of us. Penalizing is the emailing of unsolicited binary attachments to hundreds or thousands of mailing list subscribers. This list's subscribers can see in the

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/02/2016 05:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 03 May 2016 00:38:53 Gary Roach wrote: Someone needs to figure out a way to handle this without penalizing the rest of us. "The rest of us" don't have any desire to send pictures and are not being penalised. Lisi I wouldn't send pictures e

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread John Hasler
Ralph Sanchez writes: > I guess a lot of those 2.1 million customers probably live in very > rural areas where maybe other forms aren't available, or the cost to > lay wire would be more then they have. My thinking is, we have GPS > that works nearly (ok maybe not) everywhere you'd go and want > in

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 03 May 2016 00:38:53 Gary Roach wrote: > Someone needs to figure out a way to handle this without > penalizing the rest of us. "The rest of us" don't have any desire to send pictures and are not being penalised. Lisi

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Ralph Sanchez
On the subject of Dialup, and this is me speaking for just me, but I'd rather have to walk five blocks everytime I need internet then spend 20 a month on dial up :/ I guess a lot of those 2.1 million customers probably live in very rural areas where maybe other forms aren't available, or the cost t

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/02/2016 07:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 02 May 2016 06:18:02 Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2016-04-30 23:20:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send anything other than pl

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 May 2016 15:01:12 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 02 May 2016 06:18:02 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2016-04-30 23:20:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > > > > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or > > >

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 May 2016 06:18:02 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2016-04-30 23:20:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > > > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or > > > send anything other than plain text files. This leaves me

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 May 2016 at 08:44:53 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 09:59:13AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > [...] > > > That coupled with the fact that this list just throws rejects into > > the bit bucket [...] > > I doubt that part. Especially having already received rejec

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-04-30 23:20:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > > > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send > > anything other than plain text files. This leaves me with a problem if > > I wish to post a screen shot. I have b

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/01/2016 11:44 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 09:59:13AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: [...] That coupled with the fact that this list just throws rejects into the bit bucket [...] I doubt that part. Especially having already

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 09:59:13AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: [...] > That coupled with the fact that this list just throws rejects into > the bit bucket [...] I doubt that part. Especially having already received rejects from some Debian list due to

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/01/2016 10:38 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 01 May 2016 17:59:13 Gary Roach wrote: Dial up or no dial up I really think Debian needs to loosen up a bit on the site restrictions. Why? Most people manage fine. If you would only answer the questions you are asked, you would get more help

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Richard Hector
On 02/05/16 03:57, Gene Heskett wrote: > So I'd like to prose a compromise that recognizes the folks still > on dialup and at dialup speeds. Possibly paying by the minute for > access. > > Accept the attachment, but strip it from the message that goes > back out to the list and store it on paste

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sun, 2016-05-01 at 09:59 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > I need to re-read Gene Haskett's suggestion again and try to > impliment  > it. Dial up or no dial up I really think Debian needs to loosen up a > bit  > on the site restrictions. You could probably file a bug about reject notices. As for the

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Siard
On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 18:12:00 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send > anything other than plain text files. This leaves me with a problem > if I wish to post a screen shot. I have been told that debian has a > paste bin. Does anyone know th

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 01 May 2016 17:59:13 Gary Roach wrote: > Dial up or no dial up I really think Debian needs to loosen up a bit > on the site restrictions. Why? Most people manage fine. If you would only answer the questions you are asked, you would get more help faster. Lisi

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/01/2016 04:46 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 01 May 2016 12:33:18 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 01 May 2016 02:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send anything other than plain text files. I just sent a screenshot half an hour ago and

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 01 May 2016 11:07:39 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Sun, 2016-05-01 at 10:39 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I tried sending a screenshot 25 minutes ago.  It has not so far > > > > turned > > > > > up. But another email I sent 5 minutes ago has turned up.  Whilst > > > Debian Users list cer

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 01 May 2016 16:07:39 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Sun, 2016-05-01 at 10:39 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I tried sending a screenshot 25 minutes ago.  It has not so far > > > > turned > > > > > up. But another email I sent 5 minutes ago has turned up.  Whilst > > > Debian Users list cert

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sun, 2016-05-01 at 10:39 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I tried sending a screenshot 25 minutes ago.  It has not so far > turned > > up. But another email I sent 5 minutes ago has turned up.  Whilst > > Debian Users list certainly accepts attachments, it does look as > > though it doesn't like s

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 01 May 2016 07:28:40 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 01 May 2016 02:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or > > send anything other than plain text files. > > I tried sending a screenshot 25 minutes ago. It has not so far turned > up. B

Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 01 May 2016 12:33:18 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 01 May 2016 02:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send > > anything other than plain text files. > > I just sent a screenshot half an hour ago and it has not arrived, but > another

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 01 May 2016 02:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send > anything other than plain text files. I just sent a screenshot half an hour ago and it has not arrived, but another email I sent twenty minutes later has arrived. Although s

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 01 May 2016 02:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send > anything other than plain text files. I tried sending a screenshot 25 minutes ago. It has not so far turned up. But another email I sent 5 minutes ago has turned up. Whils

Re: Posting picture files

2016-04-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send > anything other than plain text files. This leaves me with a problem if > I wish to post a screen shot. I have been told that debian has a paste > bin. Does anyone know the

Re: Posting a message on all desktops

2016-02-02 Thread Himanshu Shekhar
I haven't tried yet, but shutdown -k "message" should work. However, the message would not flash on the GUI screen of all systems. Moreover, all users need to be connected to same host. Rather, you could create on indicator, with python backend, listening messages from a particular socket or port o

Re: Posting a message on all desktops

2016-02-02 Thread Timothy Marion
Would shutdown -k work ? On Sat, 2016-01-30 at 22:34 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 18:59:13 -0500 > ken wrote: > > > > Is there a way for a system admin to post a message on the desktops of > > > all the machines on a LAN ? > > > If all the desktops are just terminals (tex

Re: Posting a message on all desktops

2016-01-30 Thread Teemu Likonen
Renaud OLGIATI [2016-01-30 16:33:31-03] wrote: > Is there a way for a system admin to post a message on the desktops of > all the machines on a LAN ? I'm doing the same thing in a network where every machine gets their IP through DHCP. The network is scanned with nmap for open ssh servers. Luckil

Re: Posting a message on all desktops

2016-01-30 Thread Ron
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 18:59:13 -0500 ken wrote: > > Is there a way for a system admin to post a message on the desktops of all > > the machines on a LAN ? > If all the desktops are just terminals (text), you could use "wall". > But they're probably not. (?) No, they are all GUI > You could pu

Re: Posting a message on all desktops

2016-01-30 Thread ken
On 01/30/2016 02:33 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: Is there a way for a system admin to post a message on the desktops of all the machines on a LAN ? Cheers, Ron. If all the desktops are just terminals (text), you could use "wall". But they're probably not. (?) You could put the desire

Re: posting

2011-10-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 18 oct 11, 06:12:19, Tixy wrote: > On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 21:49 +, Camaleón wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:18:44 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > > > > And I would add evolution to the blacklist (top posting) > > > > How is that? Evolution is preventing you from moving the cursor to star

Re: posting

2011-10-17 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 21:49 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:18:44 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > > And I would add evolution to the blacklist (top posting) > > How is that? Evolution is preventing you from moving the cursor to start > writing where you want? > > Top-posting (when

Re: posting

2011-10-17 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:18:44 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > On 16/10/11 23:03, Celejar wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:22:00 + (UTC) Camaleón >> wrote: >> >> ... >> >>> - MUAs. I would add another section about good e-mails clients to use >>> when dealing with mailing lists (this is my small

Re: posting

2011-10-17 Thread Ralf Jung
Hi, > Yes, why not, they can enter to the whitelist if they operate right ;-) > > Ahh, I forget about smartphones! All of these devices (specially iPhones > and Blackberries) should go to the "blacklist" unless they can be > configured to avoid the top-posting style >:-) KMail works fine, as far

Re: posting

2011-10-17 Thread Erwan David
On 16/10/11 23:03, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:22:00 + (UTC) > Camaleón wrote: > > ... > >> - MUAs. I would add another section about good e-mails clients to use >> when dealing with mailing lists (this is my small "whitelist" input: >> mutt, (al)pine, thunderbird/icedove, evol

Re: posting

2011-10-17 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:24:32 -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 05:22:00PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> - MUAs. I would add another section about good e-mails clients to use >> when dealing with mailing lists (this is my small "whitelist" input: >> mutt, (al)pine, thunderbird/icedo

Re: posting

2011-10-16 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:22:00 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: ... > - MUAs. I would add another section about good e-mails clients to use > when dealing with mailing lists (this is my small "whitelist" input: > mutt, (al)pine, thunderbird/icedove, evolution, claws and in my > "blacklist" I will pu

Re: posting

2011-10-16 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 06:03:21PM BST, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > > Do you know of a good reference that teaches people how to post I could > > point to in my signature? > > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists would be appropriate. http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html is also a g

Re: posting

2011-10-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:10:17 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Vi, 14 oct 11, 17:22:00, Camaleón wrote: >> >> Okay, here you have my feedback (and thanks for caring about this). > > You are, of course, aware this is a wiki and anyone can edit it, right? > ;-) Yes! And I have an account for th

Re: posting

2011-10-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 14 oct 11, 17:22:00, Camaleón wrote: > > Okay, here you have my feedback (and thanks for caring about this). You are, of course, aware this is a wiki and anyone can edit it, right? ;-) Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.de

Re: posting

2011-10-14 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:03:21 -0800, peasthope wrote: > From: lee > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:01:40 +0200 >> Do you know of a good reference that teaches people how to post I could >> point to in my signature? I -for sure- must have missed Lee's message. > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLis

Re: posting

2011-10-14 Thread peasthope
From: lee Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:01:40 +0200 > Do you know of a good reference that teaches people how to post I could > point to in my signature? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists would be appropriate. At # Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:56:37 -0800 # Message-id: <171057104.81445.746

Re: posting

2011-06-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 29/06/11 02:43, Stephen Allen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:12:55AM +0200, Florian Snow wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> Ralf Mardorf: > ---end quoted text--- > > He's a troll IMO > If you are referring to Ralf - then no, he's *not* a troll. Cheers -- "I just have one of those faces. Pe

Re: posting

2011-06-28 Thread Stephen Allen
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:12:55AM +0200, Florian Snow wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Ralf Mardorf: > > I take this issue seriously and try my best to fix the issue, but sorry > > everybody, I won't waste time by reading more replies regarding to > > posting. I STOP READING AND REPLYING TO THIS THREAD

Re: posting

2011-06-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 28 iun 11, 09:58:27, Florian Snow wrote: > Hi! > > > > What mail clients are ok? > > Claws Mail might be worthwhile trying. I cannot tell you whether or not > it replies properly to digests, but chances are it does. It has a GUI, > many options that may be a little overwhelming at first,

Re: posting

2011-06-28 Thread Florian Snow
Hi! > What mail clients are ok? Claws Mail might be worthwhile trying. I cannot tell you whether or not it replies properly to digests, but chances are it does. It has a GUI, many options that may be a little overwhelming at first, but also decent defaults so if you don't want to set certain opt

Re: posting

2011-06-28 Thread Florian Snow
Hi everyone, Ralf Mardorf: > I take this issue seriously and try my best to fix the issue, but sorry > everybody, I won't waste time by reading more replies regarding to > posting. I STOP READING AND REPLYING TO THIS THREAD [...] Quite frankly, I find this insulting. I can understand that you're

Re: Re: posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-27 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 03:54:51PM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Test reply from link in archive at: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/06/msg01787.html > > I want to see if the reply ends up in the thread properly, I think > it should as the html link from the online archive is th

Re: posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-25 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 06/25/2011 03:14 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 25/06/11 15:54, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> Test reply from link in archive at: >> >> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/06/msg01787.html >> >> I want to see if the reply ends up in the thread properly, I think it >> should as the html link

Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198

2011-06-25 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, We have at least 4 threads here now. Looks like the digest version gives enough info. to do the replies properly for each post -- one way or another. Mucking around with headers is not for everyone, and isn't possible to be done with digest automatically with all mailers either. It

Re: posting

2011-06-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
rsion: 1.0 --mln0rGgUGuXEqmuI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/25/11 at 03:20pm, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 25/06/11 10:16, lee wrote: > > Scott Ferguson writes: > >=20 > >> I don

Re: posting

2011-06-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 08:43 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 06:10 +, > debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > > Can somebody send me a full digest message, so I can see what > > is tacked > > onto the end of the message? Send as an atta

Re: posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/06/11 15:54, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Test reply from link in archive at: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/06/msg01787.html > > I want to see if the reply ends up in the thread properly, I think it > should as the html link from the online archive is this: > > > href="mail

Re: posting

2011-06-24 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:01 AM, lee wrote: Hm, I wonder why anyone is going to the lengths of replying to digest messages rather than just subscribing to the list ... So they don't need to get hundreds of separate messages?! Most people don't treat a digest as separat

Re: Re: posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-24 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Test reply from link in archive at: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/06/msg01787.html I want to see if the reply ends up in the thread properly, I think it should as the html link from the online archive is this: href="mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org?In-Reply-To=<8db18074-5ae4-

Re: posting

2011-06-24 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:11:47 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi Camaleón :) > >> Have you considered using NNTP? > > No, I need to read the Wiki > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_News_Transfer_Protocol since I > never heard of those 4 letters before :D. Then read, read... you'll see how good

Re: posting

2011-06-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Camaleón :) > Have you considered using NNTP? No, I need to read the Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_News_Transfer_Protocol since I never heard of those 4 letters before :D. Thanx, Ralf PS: Please carbon copy ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org wi

Re: posting

2011-06-24 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:44:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > If I would receive all mailing lists NOT as digest it would be 800 mails > a day. I can filter as soon as I receive mails, but if I just don't > retrieve mails for one day, I get issues with too many mails on my > providers server. (...)

Re: posting

2011-06-24 Thread Erwan David
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 01:17:50AM CEST, Tom Furie said: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:12:49PM +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] > wrote: > > > Not being funny but, both Thunderbird and Google mail auto trim the emails > > for me... If your mail client can't support that, then sucks to be

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 08:09:41AM +0200, Boblitz John wrote: > I subscribe to the digest and my client lists each entry as a separate mail > as an attachment, > so obviously it is possible to do that. > > I can then chose which which topics are of interest and read only that entry > as a singl

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 06:33:39AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > you need a header message-ID for mailing list replies? Pardon, but > IMO this is strange. Why is it strange? That is the header that allows threading to work properly. If anything, Message-ID: is more important on-list than off-list

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> email message attachment > > Forwarded Message > > From: Tom Furie > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: posting > > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:49:19 +0100 > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 08:44:57PM +0200, Ralf Mar

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/06/11 03:17, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote: > Wtf. > > This thread is just beyond confusing now. > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:14 PM, lee > wrote: > > Ralf Mardorf > writes: > Please *don't* top post.

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/23/11 at 10:14am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 17:39 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > On 23/06/11 17:02, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > IMO Digest should be for replies too, not only to lurk the list. You can > > > read the archive if you only would like to lurk. > > > While in you

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:12:49PM +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote: > Not being funny but, both Thunderbird and Google mail auto trim the emails > for me... If your mail client can't support that, then sucks to be you? Interesting. How do they know what you don't want to include

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread lee
are quoting from the wrong post: , | OA > ( 126) [Ralf Mardorf ] 'Re: posting | :R+-> ( 164) [Scott Ferguson ] ' | :R| \-> ( 49) [Eduardo M KALINOWSKI ] ' | :R+-> ( 146) [-> debian-u...@lists.de] ' | :R| \-> ( 369)

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
Not being funny but, both Thunderbird and Google mail auto trim the emails for me... If your mail client can't support that, then sucks to be you? On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Mike McClain wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 06:17:01PM +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media > Ltd] wrote: > > Wtf.

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> Perhaps I have a bad day ;), so I'll stop reading here. (Sorry, I miss > other replies doing this) Aaargh, pardon, broken English ... I didn't read other following replies regarding to this thread, by the current Debian digest, so I might have missed something. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to de

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 23 June 2011 20:52:33 Mike McClain wrote: > I'm just curious if this breaks the thread Not in KMail. It is threaded correctly. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archi

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Mike McClain
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 06:17:01PM +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote: > Wtf. > > This thread is just beyond confusing now. Cal, you wrote 2 lines but posted +150, trim please. I subscribe to the digest and reply to it using mutt and 'L' rather than 'r'. I'm just curious if this b

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> > As already mentioned by others, there are mail clients able to deal with > > SmartList's digests. Do yourself a favor and use one of them if you're > > so attached to digests (instead of normal subscription). Perhaps I have a bad day ;), so I'll stop reading here. (Sorry, I miss other repli

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 08:44:57PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Ralf Mardorf writes: > > > > > Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 > > > > > > instead of > > > > > > Re: posting > > > > > > is breaki

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 23 June 2011 20:17:00 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Btw. some people who recommend that I should use another mailer got > issues with signs ;), such as this one: ó As I just said, I don't care what email client you chose to use or who is to blame for what. Find a list whose policies accord w

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Resp. the issue is that the mails are not inline for Debian digest. For GNU mailman Digest the mails are inline. Perhaps it would be an idea to change this for Debian digest to inline too. Note! Computers are made to fit to users workflows, users aren't born to fit to computers workflows. Using

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 23 June 2011 19:44:57 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Don't blame me! Blame the way Debian digest is formatted. It's neither > my, nor Evolutions fault, when the digest is bad formatted. This problem is endemic to digests. Googlemail threads on "conversations" which do indeed go by the subject

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> Ralf Mardorf writes: > > > Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 > > > > instead of > > > > Re: posting > > > > is breaking the thread? > >

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 23 iun 11, 10:14:23, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > It doesn't happen that often and usually for this list. If standards are > that important, GNU mailman would be the better choice to avoid issues. What standards are broken by SmartList? (exact RFC please) > Debian isn't fine with Firefox and

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
Wtf. This thread is just beyond confusing now. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:14 PM, lee wrote: > Ralf Mardorf writes: > > > Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 > > > > instead of > > > > Re: posting > > > > is breaking the thread?

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread lee
Ralf Mardorf writes: > Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 > > instead of > > Re: posting > > is breaking the thread? Yes, your threading is broken, and you need to learn how to post. See, for example, [1] and [2] and [3]. We have some options here: 1.)

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread lee
Scott Ferguson writes: >> Scott Ferguson writes: >> >> Hm, I wonder why anyone is going to the lengths of replying to digest >> messages rather than just subscribing to the list ... > > You could just ask the person Since he´s following this mailing list, he may choose to answer. >> Do yo

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 06/23/2011 07:28 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 23/06/11 18:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 >> >> instead of >> >> Re: posting >> >> is breaking the thread? > It no longer is part of the thread

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
>> Not only is it reformatted, re-wrapped, and re-indented - the >> Subject has been appended to, breaking the thread. > > Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 > > instead of > > Re: posting > > is breaking the thread? It no longer is p

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
sn't eliminated, hence scrolling through the Digest is annoying. People > > writing to the list should do it by plain text only, so it would be easy > > to eliminate HTML based spam. > > > > IMO Digest should be for replies too, not only to lurk the list. You can &g

Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198

2011-06-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/06/11 17:02, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 06:45 +, > debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: >> On 23/06/11 00:01, lee wrote: >> > Scott Ferguson writes: >> > >> >> On 22/06/11 21:53, Camaleón wrote: >> On 21/06/11

Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 09:02 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 06:45 +, > debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > > On 23/06/11 00:01, lee wrote: > > > Scott Ferguson writes: > > > > > >> On 22/06/11 21:53, Camaleón wrote: > >

Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 06:45 +, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > On 23/06/11 00:01, lee wrote: > > Scott Ferguson writes: > > > >> On 22/06/11 21:53, Camaleón wrote: > On 21/06/11 23:29, Camaleón wrote: > > On Tue, 21

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