Wtf. This thread is just beyond confusing now.
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:14 PM, lee <l...@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote: > Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> writes: > > > Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 > > > > instead of > > > > Re: posting > > > > is breaking the thread? > > Yes, your threading is broken, and you need to learn how to post. See, > for example, [1] and [2] and [3]. > > We have some options here: > > > 1.) filter your posts so they go to the junk group or are quietly > deleted > > 2.) use scoring so your posts are marked read or aren't displayed > anymore and ignore them > > 3.) tell you how to improve so that your posts become worthwhile to read > > > Option 3.) is off topic, the others are probably not what you would > want. > > > [1]: http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html#toc2 > [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style > [3]: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 > > > For Evolution it usually isn't reformatted, of cause sometimes I get > > neverending lines when I reply, but this also happens for non-digest > > replies. > > > > And yes, sometimes mails are bad reformatted for Evolution too, but this > > also isn't related to digest replies. > > Have you considered using a decent MUA, like mutt or gnus? > > > I can filter emails for my client, but not for the provider's server. > > I don't want to receive 800 mails a day, so I prefer digest. > > There are only about a hundred or so mails on this list per > day. Obviously, replying to messages received in digest format doesn't > work for you. Digests are not meant for replying to the messages they > contain, they are meant for reading only. You are receiving the messages > anyway, just not as separate messages, so what difference does it make? > Is your MUA only able to handle a very few messages? > > > The Debian list does cause most of the Spams I get. > > The amount of SPAM in this list is remarkably low, if you don't count > badly designed posts and messages sent in HTML. > > How many SPAM messages did you receive in this list today or yesterday? > > >> Also. How someone can forget to copy the Subject line - when, if > >> replying to normal (not Digest) messages - it's not necessary. > > > > It doesn't happen that often and usually for this list. > > And it happens for debian-user because you're using the digest in a way > it was never meant to be used? > > > If standards are that important, GNU mailman would be the better > > choice to avoid issues. > > Issues like? > > > Debian isn't fine with Firefox and Thunderbird, hence they change some > > things, add bugs and call it Iceweasel and Icedove. Debian isn't fine > > with GNU mailmen, hence they use another format for the mailing list. > > There's nothing wrong with the format of this mailing list, or is there? > > > That Debian has issues with applications like Firefox, Thunderbird and > Seamonkey is another topic. Mailman is in Debian testing; if it's not > used to run the many Debian mailing lists, there are probably good > reasons for that. That's a different topic as well. > > > And now replying to digest is unwanted? What is digest for? For reading > > only? There's an archive, that can be used for reading only. > > You can reply to messages in the digest all you want; there's nothing > unwanted about it. What is not wanted are badly designed posts, poorly > chosen subjects and broken or missing References: and In-Reply-To: > headers. > > > Yes, as has been said a few times already, *digests are for reading > only*. Web-based archives don't exactly replace them because viewing > them requires you to be online all the time; search functions may be > poor; threading might not work very well; it's probably hard to forward > a message you find in a digest to yourself for keeping it for reference. > > You could be looking for a solution of a problem that prevents you from > being able to browse a digest that is stored on a remote computer: Your > internet connection might not be available or your X server doesn't run > so that you're limited to the console and text-based browsers like lynx > that don't make it exactly easy or convenient to browse web-based > mailing list archives.[4] > > Anyway, digests did exist before computers were connected to the > internet all the time and reading mailing lists usually was done while > being offline. Still I'm not sure why they were invented, they don't > make sense to me. > > > [4]: I've almost 100k messages in debian-user, and I keep them because I > sometimes do search them for some solution. How do you do that with > a web-based archive? > > > Mozilla isn't origin Linux software. I'm using Evolution, it's still > > more buggy than Mozillas are, I can't change this OTOH did you test if > > the reformatted mails are ok when viewing them by Thunderbird instead of > > Icedove? > > You could use a decent MUA, and you're not even limited to using only > one exclusively. > > Why do you use Evolution when it's so buggy? It's not like there weren't > good alternatives available. > > > I planed to read more and to write less, at the moment I reply very > > often, > > That's another reason to make it easier for yourself --- and for us --- > by switching to a decent MUA and subscribing to the list instead of its > digest. > > > but I won't switch between digest and "normal" when the amount of my > > replies is higher or lower. > > Whatever you want, but don't expect anyone not to ignore you because of > badly designed posts. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871uykpj08....@yun.yagibdah.de > >
