Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-11 Thread David Wright
On Mon 10 Mar 2025 at 06:48:33 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 08:04:58PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > In this context, my understanding of an Internet mail server can be > > illustrated in the following way. If your "machine in the LAN" > > receives emails by ask

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-11 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-06, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > Obviously, my preference is to get Evolution working right, without > the necessity of spending two or three days reinstalling Debian. And > if reinstallation is necessary, I am not sure I would choose Evolution > as my client for HTML mail. Verify you

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-10 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mar 09, 2025, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 08/03/2025 11:23, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > [...] > > Meanwhile, I discovered that HostGator has the Roundcube web > > interface, and that works for now. > > Isn't roundcube an IMAP client under the hood? Ideally. I think it can also do POP3 though.

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-10 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 08:04:58PM -0500, David Wright wrote: In this context, my understanding of an Internet mail server can be illustrated in the following way. If your "machine in the LAN" receives emails by asking for them from another machine, then it's not an IMS. If you can switch off th

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-09 Thread David Wright
On Sat 08 Mar 2025 at 18:40:22 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 08:16:24AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Russell L. Harris wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 10:16:49AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > > > > > Have you tried to create a new system user and to configure

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-09 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 11:24:41PM -0600, David Wright wrote: On Thu 06 Mar 2025 at 02:16:15 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: Can anyone tell me how to proceed? I'm not sure how this question relates to my post, to which it's attached. I don't know what evolution recovery is, and I don't unde

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-09 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-03-09 02:40, Max Nikulin wrote: On 08/03/2025 11:23, Russell L. Harris wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 10:16:49AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Have you tried to create a new system user and to configure Meanwhile, I discovered that HostGator has the Roundcube web interface, and that works

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-08 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 09:40:07AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Then you have access to mail logs on the server. I expect that it is possible to enable debug logs in evolution as well. Comparing logs from both sides should help to figure out what party should be blamed. In addition you may use t

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-08 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/03/2025 11:23, Russell L. Harris wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 10:16:49AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Have you tried to create a new system user and to configure evolution for it? Good idea.  Thanks. It may help if your mail provider has enforced another authentication method. I hope,

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-08 Thread John Hasler
By "mail provider" they mean the entity that operates the Internet-facing mail server that your mail comes and goes through. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-08 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 08:16:24AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: Russell L. Harris wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 10:16:49AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > Have you tried to create a new system user and to configure evolution > for it? Good idea. Thanks. > > It may help if your mail provider has en

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 10:16:49AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > Have you tried to create a new system user and to configure evolution > > for it? > > Good idea. Thanks. > > > > > It may help if your mail provider has enforced another authentication > > method.

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-07 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 10:16:49AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Have you tried to create a new system user and to configure evolution for it? Good idea. Thanks. It may help if your mail provider has enforced another authentication method. I hope, both sides: evolution and mails server suppo

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/03/2025 15:08, Russell L. Harris wrote: Obviously, my preference is to get Evolution working right, without the necessity of spending two or three days reinstalling Debian. Have you tried to create a new system user and to configure evolution for it? It may help if your mail provider h

Re: evolution recovery [work-around found]

2025-03-07 Thread Russell L. Harris
The work-around was simple. HostGator provides the RoundCube web-based email client. Makes me wonder why I bothered to install Evolution...except perhaps to get a message onto a local drive. RLH

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-06 Thread Russell L. Harris
David, I did not look up all the links you sent, but I had visited at least some of them. The messages with the links are here in my Mutt directory. Thanks. I understand your advice, and I am not going to reinstall Debian. I have not been able to figure out how to get the Evolution system

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-06 Thread David Wright
On Thu 06 Mar 2025 at 08:08:55 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 11:24:41PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 06 Mar 2025 at 02:16:15 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: > > > Can anyone tell me how to proceed? > > > > I'm not sure how this question relates to my post,

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-06 Thread Loris Bennett
"Russell L. Harris" writes: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 11:24:41PM -0600, David Wright wrote: >>On Thu 06 Mar 2025 at 02:16:15 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: >>> Can anyone tell me how to proceed? >> >>I'm not sure how this question relates to my post, to which it's attached. >>I don't know what

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-06 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
Cindy Sue Causey writes: > As I tried to say, I'm not sure if that's what you mean about accessing > Based on personal purging experience, those two Evolution config and > data storage locations stayed in place when I removed Evolution for > some forgotten reason. Their data was still safely in p

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 03:46:01PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: [...] > "Password" boxes have been asterisks for 25 or 30 years by now; not sure > what you're really going on about there .. OP's still right that this is idiotic security theater most of the time. Cheers -- t signature.asc Descr

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread David Wright
On Thu 06 Mar 2025 at 02:16:15 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: > With Synaptic, I tried reinstallation of Evolution, but that did not > change the response. > > Evolution has a dozen or so dependencies, so a complete removal may > wreck my computer. > > My past messages (few of which have vaulu

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Russell L. Harris
With Synaptic, I tried reinstallation of Evolution, but that did not change the response. Evolution has a dozen or so dependencies, so a complete removal may wreck my computer. My past messages (few of which have vaulue) are saved in local files, and there are a bunch of new messages on the Host

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Mar 2025 at 21:12:32 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 03:46:01PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: > > > The "Mail Authentication Request" has only a blank (already filled in) > > > for a password which (very stupidly) is shown as a line of dots, > > > rather than in pl

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Russell L. Harris
Hi, Cindy. My immediate concern is to receive messages coming into "mail...@alysonwonderland.org". I have been occupied with other issues, but it just occurred to me to check the file manager of CPanel for alysonwonderland.org to see if perhaps I might download messages by some other means, and

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On Wed, 2025-03-05 at 01:51 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > On my Debian 12 desktop, I installed Evolution, primarily for easy > access to HTML messages.  Also, it gives me a second mail address. > > Several days ago, Evolution began causing a "Mail Authentication > Request" popup which preve

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 03:46:01PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: The "Mail Authentication Request" has only a blank (already filled in) for a password which (very stupidly) is shown as a line of dots, rather than in plain text. Foolish paranoia! The password is protected (from what threat?), even a

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mar 05, 2025, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 05:38:41AM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: > > er, "second" address, just from a MUA? > > I should have said that an extra email address is handly to have. > Sorry for the confusion. > > > > Several days ago, Evolution began causing a

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 05:38:41AM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: er, "second" address, just from a MUA? I should have said that an extra email address is handly to have. Sorry for the confusion. Several days ago, Evolution began causing a "Mail Authentication Request" popup which prevents me from

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 08:09:20AM +0100, Loris Bennett wrote: "Russell L. Harris" writes: On my Debian 12 desktop, I installed Evolution, primarily for easy access to HTML messages. Also, it gives me a second mail address. How does Evolution give you a second email address? A second, in

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mar 05, 2025, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > On my Debian 12 desktop, I installed Evolution, primarily for easy > access to HTML messages. Also, it gives me a second mail address. er, "second" address, just from a MUA? > > Several days ago, Evolution began causing a "Mail Authentication > Req

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-04 Thread Loris Bennett
"Russell L. Harris" writes: > On my Debian 12 desktop, I installed Evolution, primarily for easy > access to HTML messages. Also, it gives me a second mail address. How does Evolution give you a second email address? > Several days ago, Evolution began causing a "Mail Authentication > Request"