Re: SGML-DTD: to lyx or not to lyx?

2002-09-07 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 22:58, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > Abdul Latip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Greetings: > > > > I am currently considering to use lyx as a standard > > document processor. Unfortunately, it uses "non-free" > > packages as well as "Type 3 Fonts" (what's that, btw?). > >

Re: SGML-DTD: to lyx or not to lyx?

2002-09-06 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Abdul Latip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings: > > I am currently considering to use lyx as a standard > document processor. Unfortunately, it uses "non-free" > packages as well as "Type 3 Fonts" (what's that, btw?). The non-free XForms package will soon be in main, as will Lyx. [Sorry f

Re: SGML help

2002-05-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 04:38:29PM -0400, Eduardo Gargiulo wrote: > Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 05:33:42PM -0300, Eduardo Gargiulo wrote: > > > Hi all. > > > > > > I'm looking for help (for newbies) on using debiandoc-sgml. > > > The problem is that I want

Re: SGML help

2002-05-17 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo
Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 05:33:42PM -0300, Eduardo Gargiulo wrote: > > Hi all. > > > > I'm looking for help (for newbies) on using debiandoc-sgml. > > The problem is that I want to write documents in spanish, and i don't > > know how, because the dtd's contro

Re: SGML help

2002-05-16 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 05:33:42PM -0300, Eduardo Gargiulo wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm looking for help (for newbies) on using debiandoc-sgml. > The problem is that I want to write documents in spanish, and i don't > know how, because the dtd's control entities and tags are all in > english. > > Is

Re: SGML help

2002-05-16 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
Eduardo Gargiulo escreveu: Hi all. I'm looking for help (for newbies) on using debiandoc-sgml. The problem is that I want to write documents in spanish, and i don't know how, because the dtd's control entities and tags are all in english. Usually straightforward translations of the entities a

Re: sgml or latex?

2002-02-13 Thread Isabelle Hurbain
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 07:37, Cameron Kerr wrote: > Odd, that's the second message in a `Chinese' character set that was in > English (and therefore went into the deleted folder). Is gb2312 used for > anything else than Chinese? (any _non_ English?). Keep in mind the message > was sent by a

Re: sgml or latex?

2002-02-13 Thread Cameron Kerr
Odd, that's the second message in a `Chinese' character set that was in English (and therefore went into the deleted folder). Is gb2312 used for anything else than Chinese? (any _non_ English?). Keep in mind the message was sent by a French national. Cameron Kerr -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homep

Re: sgml or latex?

2002-02-12 Thread darrell dupas
also worth noting is the LaTeX word processor called LyX, which also supports DocBook export and several generic tex styles it can produce pdf and if you export to docbook sgml you can still use those tools too lyx is still a little unstable in woody, if you open the user manual as anyone ot

Re: sgml or latex?

2002-02-12 Thread David Z Maze
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > 1. (*) text/plain ( ) text/html (Please post in plain text only, no need to send HTML mail...) > Latex and sgml are all widely used in linux documentation world, but > who can tell me which one is the best and which one will be the best > in the fu

Re: sgml or latex?

2002-02-12 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* linuxman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > > hi, > > Latex and sgml are all widely used in linux documentation world, but who can > tell me which one is the best and which one will be the best in the future? A psychic? If current trends are anything to go by, in the future they'll be using

Re: sgml or latex?

2002-02-12 Thread Isabelle Hurbain
On Tuesday 12 February 2002 15:00, linuxman wrote: > hi, > > Latex and sgml are all widely used in linux documentation world, but who > can tell me which one is the best and which one will be the best in the > future? > Thanks! > > linuxman > = > Linux is all my life > LDP (www.linuxd

Re: sgml or latex?

2002-02-12 Thread O Polite
As you might have noticed a lot of people are moving to XML. I don't know much about technological superiority of the diffrent options but XML has a lot of momentum. This means that xml has lots of tools ,libraries, books, knowledgeble users on usenet etc. I think that both DocBook and Linuxdoc ha

Re: Re: SGML

2001-08-26 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 11:38:52PM +, Hereward Cooper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > What's "fully working"? > > ok, just working then. > > > For an authoring tool, my recommendation is psgmltools under > > emacs. > > Got it! The problems come in the validation and filtering of > SGML i've

Re: Re: SGML

2001-08-26 Thread Hereward Cooper
> What's "fully working"? ok, just working then. > For an authoring tool, my recommendation is psgmltools under > emacs. Got it! The problems come in the validation and filtering of SGML i've written. > If you're doing DocBook, there's a set of packages that you'll > want to > install, starting

Re: SGML

2001-08-26 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 06:22:23PM +, Hereward Cooper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > Firstly i'm told this is meant to be a highly controversial subject > and may start a flame war, am i right? > > What's the easiest (and hopeful best) way of getting sgml working > fully under debian.

Re: SGML beginners question

2000-07-31 Thread Christophe TROESTLER
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 11:18:27AM +, Tony wrote: > > ^ > > ^"Eric G . Miller" wrote: > > ^ > > ^> really slick and well formatted documents. And for writing something > > ^> like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle c

Re: SGML beginners question

2000-06-23 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 11:18:27AM +, Tony wrote: > ^ > ^"Eric G . Miller" wrote: > ^ > ^> really slick and well formatted documents. And for writing something > ^> like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations. > ^ > ^Yes. > ^ > ^Latex + bibtex + Emacs + AUCTeX + bib-cite + Re

Re: SGML beginners question

2000-06-22 Thread Tony
^ ^"Eric G . Miller" wrote: ^ ^> really slick and well formatted documents. And for writing something ^> like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations. ^ ^Yes. ^ ^Latex + bibtex + Emacs + AUCTeX + bib-cite + RefTeX + font-latex ^ ^Good stuff. ^-- Yes, I basically agree with that,

Re: SGML beginners question

2000-06-21 Thread Peter S Galbraith
"Eric G . Miller" wrote: > really slick and well formatted documents. And for writing something > like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations. Yes. Latex + bibtex + Emacs + AUCTeX + bib-cite + RefTeX + font-latex Good stuff. -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist <

Re: SGML beginners question

2000-06-21 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 12:03:44PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote: > Hi, > Recently, I have read a lot about SGML. It gives me the > impression that it is very hard to learn and very very > powerfull. I haven't found it so hard to learn (like DocBook) as getting desirable printable vers

Re: SGML beginners question

2000-06-21 Thread John Pearson
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 12:03:44PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote > Hi, > Recently, I have read a lot about SGML. It gives me the > impression that it is very hard to learn and very very > powerfull. > > However, I still don't have a clue that in what circumstances I > shoul

Re: SGML WYSIWYG editors?

2000-04-06 Thread David Z. Maze
John Conover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JC> Are there any? Definitionally, no. (Consider, for example, the differences between viewing HTML documents in Netscape and under Lynx.) I like to use psgml-mode in XEmacs to edit my SGML (DocBook, HTML). YMMV. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: SGML WYSIWYG editors?

2000-04-06 Thread Bruce Sass
I haven't heard of any... but you could try Lyx, it will convert its latex output to sgml if you have sgml-tools installed. Docbook, linuxdoc article and linuxdoc manpage are directly supported (with the version in Potato anyways), you may be able to get other dtds to work if you put your mind to

Re: sgml-tools, LinuxDoc, and customization

2000-01-27 Thread Joseph A. Martin
Hello, Thanks for all of the replies. Last I check out the LDP ( about a week ago ) they said that all HOWTO's still needed to be in LinuxDoc format instead of DocBook. I have not found any information about customizing LinuxDoc though I have found plenty about DocBook. My intention now is

Re: sgml-tools, LinuxDoc, and customization

2000-01-24 Thread Colin Marquardt
* J Horacio MG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> README.Debian file for sgml-tools says that version 1 is orphaned >> upstream. I take that to mean that I might not get help from the >> upstream authors. > Not sure, but I think that even the sgmltools2 is orphaned by now. Indeed. Because of lack of

Re: sgml-tools, LinuxDoc, and customization

2000-01-22 Thread J Horacio MG
> Hello, > I am not sure exactly where to ask this question, but the > README.Debian file for sgml-tools says that version 1 is orphaned > upstream. I take that to mean that I might not get help from the > upstream authors. Not sure, but I think that even the sgmltools2 is orphaned by now.

Re: sgml and DocBook

1999-12-02 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 05:43:31PM -0600, Jor-el wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote an entire document using the debiandoc DTD before I > realized that I picked on the weaker and less prevailing DTD. I would like > to convert my entire document to docbook. Unfortunately, the docbook > package that I h

Re: SGML->PDF

1999-10-16 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
[Aside, there's an SGML list [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Oct 16, 1999 at 00:22:46 +0100, Steve George wrote: > Does anyone know of any tools to convert from SGML (or any output jade can > make) to PDF? Use jade's TeX output and run it through pdfjadetex (see e.g. http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~jdasse

Re: SGML question.

1999-07-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski
>> "Felipe" == Felipe Alvarez Harnecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Felipe> Hi, anybody knows about a simple "user manual" DTD available Felipe> ?? DocBook is oversized for this task and i don't know about Felipe> any repository of DTDs. Maybe linuxdoc? There is a debian package. As for Docbook,

Re: SGML problems

1999-07-12 Thread Colin Marquardt
Hi, * Matthew Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ! LaTeX Error: File `linuxdoc-sgml.sty' not found. On the commandline, try `texhash' (needs to be run as root), `kpsewhich linuxdoc-sgml.sty', `locate linuxdoc-sgml.sty'. `texhash' build teTeX´s filename database, `kpsewhich' locates it for y

Re: SGML HELP!!!!! PLEASE?????

1999-06-10 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 18:27:00 +0200, Egon Schmid wrote: > No. Use DebianDoc or DocBook and forget sgml-tools. Just some background: tools like sgml-tools that format or translate SGML documents usually support only a specific set of DTDs. In the case of sgml-tools, it's Linuxdoc-sgml (old) or D

Re: SGML HELP!!!!! PLEASE?????

1999-06-09 Thread Egon Schmid
On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, J Horacio MG wrote: > Been there, seen that, still confused (well, at least I subscribed to > the sgml-tools list). Some introduction into DocBook: http://nis-www.lanl.gov/~rosalia/mydocs/docbook-intro.html http://sourceware.cygnus.com/docbook-tools/ http://www.freebsd.org/

Re: SGML HELP!!!!! PLEASE?????

1999-06-09 Thread J Horacio MG
Thanks Egon, but: Egon Schmid dixit: ~> ~> Anything you should know is here: ~> ~> www.oasis-open.org Been there, seen that, still confused (well, at least I subscribed to the sgml-tools list). ~> > h0rus:/tmp$ sgml2html debiandoc-sgml.sgml ~> > Processing file debiandoc-sgml.sgml ~> > p

Re: SGML HELP!!!!! PLEASE?????

1999-06-09 Thread Egon Schmid
On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, J Horacio MG wrote: > {I'm writing some docs on SGML, but I'm having some trouble when > converting them with sgml-tools, and I too am a bit confused with it, is > there any mailing list on the subject (ie. SGML)? > > Also, what's the difference between Debiandoc-SGML, Linux

Re: SGML, Jade, Docbook -- HELP!!!

1998-04-25 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 03:09:14PM -0400, David S. Jackson wrote: > On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: [ lots of useful pointer snipped ] Thank you for the resources, David! I'll check them out. Probably some of them could be packaged for Debian (most likely into non-free, because of n

Re: SGML, Jade, Docbook -- HELP!!!

1998-04-24 Thread David S. Jackson
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 11:27:24AM +0200, Oliver Elphick wrote: > > Is there anywhere some documentation that enables someone to > > understand SGML, DSSSL and so on from scratch? > > There is very little, really. Try to search for "tutorial" and "d

Re: SGML, Jade, Docbook -- HELP!!!

1998-04-24 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 11:27:24AM +0200, Oliver Elphick wrote: > Is there anywhere some documentation that enables someone to > understand SGML, DSSSL and so on from scratch? There is very little, really. Try to search for "tutorial" and "docbook" in the web. Or for "tutorial" and "sgml". You'll

Re: sgml authoring

1998-04-13 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 02:15:34PM +1100, Damon Muller wrote: > > I'm going to be writing a Masters thesis this year (ie. approx 30k words), > and I'm planning on doing it in Linux (drag myself kicking and screaming > into the Emacs documentation...). > > The possibilities I am looking as as to f

Re: sgml authoring

1998-04-11 Thread David S. Jackson
On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Damon Muller wrote: > On this topic, sort of... > > I'm going to be writing a Masters thesis this year (ie. approx 30k words), > and I'm planning on doing it in Linux (drag myself kicking and screaming > into the Emacs documentation...). > > The possibilities I am looking as

Re: sgml authoring

1998-04-10 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 02:15:34PM +1100, Damon Muller wrote: > On this topic, sort of... > > I'm going to be writing a Masters thesis this year (ie. approx 30k words), > and I'm planning on doing it in Linux (drag myself kicking and screaming > into the Emacs documentation...). > > The possibili

Re: sgml authoring

1998-04-10 Thread King Lee
On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Damon Muller wrote: > On this topic, sort of... > > I'm going to be writing a Masters thesis this year (ie. approx 30k words), > and I'm planning on doing it in Linux (drag myself kicking and screaming > into the Emacs documentation...). > > The possibilities I am looking

Re: sgml authoring

1998-04-10 Thread Damon Muller
On this topic, sort of... I'm going to be writing a Masters thesis this year (ie. approx 30k words), and I'm planning on doing it in Linux (drag myself kicking and screaming into the Emacs documentation...). The possibilities I am looking as as to format are the ubiquitous LaTeX, or the newer con

Re: sgml authoring ---> SGML Web Page

1998-04-10 Thread adavis
The SGML Web Page is at http://www.sil.org/sgml/sgml.html where you can probably find out the answer to your questions, and more. Alan -- Alan E. Davis Marianas High School (Science Department) AAA196, Box 10001[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sa

Re: sgml authoring

1998-04-09 Thread Oliver Elphick
Richard Sevenich wrote: >Does debian include any sgml authoring tools as an alternative to >the brute force write-it-tags-and-all-with-an-editor approach? >Any hints would be appreciated. psgml is a package that adds SGML support to emacs and allows you to use xemacs pulldown menus to add SG

Re: sgml authoring

1998-04-09 Thread Paul Huygen
Richard Sevenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does debian include any sgml authoring tools as an alternative to >the brute force write-it-tags-and-all-with-an-editor approach? >Any hints would be appreciated. ^^^ OK, my 2ct: I understood that HTML is a subset of SGML. If you can live

Re: SGML-Tools

1998-03-04 Thread David S. Jackson
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > However, I don't have latex (nor latex2e). I have tetex instead. I thought > tetex is a latex substition, at least when looking at basics functionality. > Indeed the sgml-tools package did not comment on this, even though latex is > one of its suges

TeTeX (was Re: SGML-Tools)

1998-03-03 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
In an article [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |However, I don't have latex (nor latex2e). I have tetex instead. I |thought tetex is a latex substition, at least when looking at basics |functionality. Indeed the sgml-tools package did not comment on this, |even though latex is one of its sugestions. And in

Re: SGML-Tools

1998-03-03 Thread shaul
> $ sgml2latex -a example.sgml > SGML-Tools driver version 0.99.7 The filenames have not changed accidentally, I am running the command from the same directory where the sgml file is, I have tried it with the the sgml-tools pkg (which was not an upgrade, but a fresh installation) and it is the

Re: SGML-Tools

1998-03-01 Thread David S. Jackson
On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Am I using it in a wrong manner or is there a bug: > > $ sgml2latex -a example.sgml > SGML-Tools driver version 0.99.7 Hmmm. It works for me using this syntax. Here are some considerations: No filenames have changed accidentally? (No ~'s or spa

Re: SGML ??

1997-05-13 Thread Rob Browning
Rick Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm looking for the linuxdoc-sgml package. It's not in the directory it > was reported in. There are some packages called sgml-tool and docs. Has > the one linuxdoc-sgml.deb been replaced by the sgml packages? If so what > packages would I need to have