Bruce wrote:
> Youngsters! What is this world coming to, never heard of a comm prg,
> probably don't know what x/y/zmodem and kermit are either. ;)
>
> just for the fun of it...
> I can dial in and read my mail/surf-the-web using a C64 and a comm
> program, and if my ZX81 was still working I co
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:36:24PM -0400, D-Man wrote:
|
| [
| Aside : Not to start a MUA war, but could you ditch Eudora? It
| seems to work rather badly with replying to a mailing list. I
| notice that all your posts break the threading displayed in mutt,
| so I find it hard to
also sprach Joost Kooij (on Mon, 02 Jul 2001 09:26:39PM +0200):
> On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:36:24PM -0400, D-Man wrote:
> > apt-get remove --purge wvdial minicom
> ^^
> dpkg --purge wvdial minicom
> ^^
dpkg -P wvdial minicom
> Less typing.
^^^
c
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:19:25PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
| On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, D-Man wrote:
| >
| > As Wayne mentioned, minicom and wvdial aren't supposed to authenticate
| > or maintain a ppp connection, that is pppd's job :-). minicom is an
| > _interactive_ dialer.
|
| Minicom is a "termin
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:36:24PM -0400, D-Man wrote:
> apt-get remove --purge wvdial minicom
^^
dpkg --purge wvdial minicom
^^
Less typing.
Cheers,
Joost
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, D-Man wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:49:43AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
> | For those of you who tried to help with my problem, several weeks
> | ago, here is a statement of the problem and solution.
>
> | After following all suggestions offered here and consulting with a
[
Aside : Not to start a MUA war, but could you ditch Eudora? It
seems to work rather badly with replying to a mailing list. I
notice that all your posts break the threading displayed in mutt,
so I find it hard to follow the discussion because it is broken up
with lots of mes
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:49:43AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
| For those of you who tried to help with my problem, several weeks
| ago, here is a statement of the problem and solution.
| After following all suggestions offered here and consulting with a
| computer technician, the conclusion was
Wayne Topa writes:
> ...I would suggest that you download pppconfig,...
He already has it. It is in base.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
Subject: Re. Total Confusion
Date: Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:49:43AM -0700
In reply to:Sidney Brooks
Quoting Sidney Brooks([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> For those of you who tried to help with my problem, several weeks ago, here
> is a statement of the problem and solution.
> order to get
On 1 Jul 2001, John Hasler wrote:
> Sidney Brooks writes:
> > Why would you want to use wvdial when pon works? wvdial is just a hack
> > that tries to avoid making you set up pon.
Actually, 'twas I who wrote that.
>
> This is not true. Wvdial includes some rather sophisticated
> autoconfigurat
[some extra quoting added, because your mailer doesn't and it would
be confusing as to what were your words and what were others' words.]
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 08:21:07AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
>> 2.) It's been a long time since I used minicom, but am I totally wrong in
>> thinking it's a
Sidney Brooks writes:
> Why would you want to use wvdial when pon works? wvdial is just a hack
> that tries to avoid making you set up pon.
This is not true. Wvdial includes some rather sophisticated
autoconfiguration code and does a much better job of finding the modem and
creating init strings
1.) Why would you want to use wvdial when pon works? wvdial is just a hack
that tries to avoid making you set up pon.
2.) It's been a long time since I used minicom, but am I totally wrong in
thinking it's a terminal emulator? I don't think it's supposed to do ppp
of any sort to begin with. What a
Sidney Brooks writes:
> pppconfig will not solve my minicom and wvdial problem. pppconfig enables
> pon to work and get me on line now.
If you feel you must use wvdial, look at /etc/chatscripts/provider and
/etc/ppp/peers/provider to see how pppconfig has configured the
connection. That may give
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 08:05:33AM -0500, ktb wrote:
> Have you tried running pppconfig to set up your modem? On the redhat
> side look in /etc/lilo.conf for a line starting with password=
> I if is there, comment it out or delete it if you don't want password
> protection. Strange that it asks f
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:49:43AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
> For those of you who tried to help with my problem, several weeks ago, here
> is a statement of the problem and solution.
> I have Windows98, Redhat linux, and Debian linux on my hard disk. Until
> last summer, I could get online wi
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:49:43AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
> I still have two minor problems that I may be able to work out myself. In
> order to get on line with Debian, I must use ppp. Minicom and wvdial
Did you try it with pppconfig, debian's ppp "wizard", yet?
> connect but fail to auth
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 10:47:32AM -0700, Sidney Brooks uttered:
> Using wvdial and minicom, I get connected, but then something happens and I
> do not get on the internet. wvdial keeps redialing, minicom stays where it
> is. ppp is apparently properly installed, judging by the relative logs, but
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 03:38:25AM -0700, Sidney Brooks uttered:
>
> I obviously do not understand file /boot/vmlinuz- because I could not
> make it work.
>
Whoops. I should have been more clear.
file /boot/vmlinuz- (here, you press tab)
--
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 12:40:55AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
> I do not have an /etc/isdn directory, which makes sense since I do not have
> an isdn connection.
sorry :) my bad.
Nonetheless: what does your authentification process look like? Do you require
the host to authenticate itself, do
Sidney Brooks wrote:
In case it may be of help to someone in the future, this is how I got
into my printer troubles.
I installed Windows98, Redhat 6.2, and Debian Potato on three separate
partitions of my hard drive. I dutifully made boot floppies for Redhat
and Debian. However, Redhat gives
Sidney Brooks wrote:
More answers.
For Eamon Roque
The last line of /etc/ppp/pap-secrets does in fact have
username*password, both of which are correct.
For Steve Kowalik
file /boot/vmlinuz gave me:
vmlinuz vmlinuz-2.2.19pre17
As I comparison, I did the same thing on my R
On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 10:47:32 PDT, Sidney wrote:
>
> Given that this is a problem common to all versions of linux, it does not
> seem that the solution is in editing any ppp file. It almost seems that
> there is a failure in some part of the hardware whose only effect is to
> prevent linux from
Sidney Brooks writes:
> I can only use wvdial since pon won't work even though ppp is
> installed. pppconfig works which should be further proof that ppp is
> installed.
No it isn't.
> With wvdial, I do not stay connected long enough to run any of
> your tests. The relevant sequence is:
>
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:04:43AM -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx uttered:
> What is the output of "ls -l /vmlinuz" on your Debian root partition?
>
file /boot/vmlinuz-
Would also be very helpful.
That will tell which version of the kernel you are running.
But, a fubar lilo config, more than anything so
I really don't think it's a BIOS issue, particularly since you can dial up
using other OSes. I"ve asked the following several times and you haven't
responded; I'll ask once more, then shut up, assuming that non-response
means you're not interested in following through.
- What's the output of lsmo
To repeat what others have said:
- What's the output of lsmod?
- Once you connect, what's the output of:
ipchains -a
route -n
nslookup www.debian.org
ping -c5 198.186.203.20
traceroute 198.186.203.20
- What are the contents of /var/log/messages with respect
>From the rest of the discussion, it's clear that LILO is incorrectly
loading your redhat kernel when you intend debian, and that's leading to
your other problems. Read man lilo.conf, edit /etc/lilo.conf, run lilo,
and reboot, and report back.
--
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 04:36:58AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
:Thanks to Steve Kowalik, who wrote the following, the problem if not the
:solution is becoming clear.
:I have Windows on partition hda1, Redhat on hda6, and Debian on hda8.
:Because of what Steve wrote, I did uname -a for Redhat and
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 09:35:35PM -0700, Sidney Brooks uttered:
> I ran depmod -a as root and got:
> Can't open /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/modules.dep for writing.
>
> Again the number seems to indicate my kernel version is 2.2.14, which it
> shouldn't be. However, I do not know enough about kerne
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 09:20:06PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
> Nick wrote:
>
> [snip]
> >I have the2.2.r3 version of Debian. The full kernel description is
> >2.0.38-2.0.38-3.
> Can't comment on any of your other issues at the moment, but your
> kernel version *can't* be right - I'm running De
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 01:11:37PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
> This is a response to Lance Simmons.
>
> When I reinstalled Debian yesterday, I installed the modules in the order
> that you give: parport, parport_pc, and lp. After each I got the message
> "installation succeeded". Is there any
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 06:15:02PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
:I know that I am connected because the log says so.
Please post the log out put as others have suggested. At one point it
will say connected when the modems start talking to each other, later
it will give the local and remote IP add
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 12:09:56PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
> More answers.
>
> when I ran ismod parport, the response was "ismod command not found".
Yikes! Did I say "ismod"? I meant "insmod" (to INsert a MODule).
lp depends on parport_pc which depends on parport, so they have
to be loaded i
Kent West writes:
> What does plog report when you use pppconfig/pon/poff?
Or even when you don't. Plog is just
#!/bin/sh
if [ -s /var/log/ppp.log ]; then
exec tail "$@" /var/log/ppp.log
else
exec tail "$@" /var/log/syslog | grep ' \(pppd\|chat\)\['
fi
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dan
Sidney Brooks wrote:
Here are answers to some of the questions that helpful people have posed.
About two hours ago, I installed Debian anew. It was during this
installation that I added the modules parport, etc. . The message at
the time of installation was "installation successful".
So doe
Sidney Brooks wrote:
More information.
I have tried minicom, kppp, gnome -ppp, wvdial, and pppconfig. They
all dial and get connected to my ISP. None get me on to the internet.
So, when you use minicom, you can dial-out (assuming you have volume up,
you hear dialtone, and then dialing tones
Sidney,
Sorry this has been such a pain for you. I think, though, that you need to
systematize your attempts to get it working. Going back to square one was
a reasonable idea. But it would help to have the actual output of the
commands and logs you refer to, rather than just your memory of them. F
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:35:03PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
> In response to a suggestion, I installed the parport and parport_pc
> modules. After that I was able to install the lp module.
> Unfortunately, after going through this whole new installation of Debian,
> the result was the same. Th
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:50:43PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
> As for the ping suggestion, I think that I tried it about a week ago
> without success. The clue that I do not know how to use is that my ISP
> administrator had no trouble connecting his computer through my line to the
> internet.
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:35:03PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
> In response to a suggestion, I installed the parport and parport_pc
> modules. After that I was able to install the lp module.
> Unfortunately, after going through this whole new installation of Debian,
> the result was the same. Th
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> For the record, my parallel port and serial port are enabled in the BIOS.
>
You mentioned early that you reset the BIOS back to default settings...
You've checked that the parallel port is enabled... if its a newer computer...
then you can se
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 05:04:42PM -0400, D-Man wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:41:35PM -0500, Brian Nelson wrote:
> | On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:15:23PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
> | > More information.
> | >
> | > I have tried minicom, kppp, gnome -ppp, wvdial, and pppconfig. They all
> |
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:41:35PM -0500, Brian Nelson wrote:
| On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:15:23PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
| > More information.
| >
| > I have tried minicom, kppp, gnome -ppp, wvdial, and pppconfig. They all
| > dial and get connected to my ISP. None get me on to the internet
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:15:23PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
> More information.
>
> I have tried minicom, kppp, gnome -ppp, wvdial, and pppconfig. They all
> dial and get connected to my ISP. None get me on to the internet.
Sounds like a configuration problem with the dialer. pppd should
log
On 01 Jun 2001 12:52:12 -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
> In answer to some questions.
> My ISP connection is dialup.
What have you tried? Use pppconfig to configure your ISP once your
modem works.
> When I try to install the lp module in the debian install process, I get
> the message "installatio
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 12:52:12PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote:
| In answer to some questions.
| My ISP connection is dialup.
Have you tried wvdial? Sometimes that works quite nicely with little
configuration necessary.
| When I try to install the lp module in the debian install process, I get
|
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