Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-08 Thread Luke S Crawford
"Mag Gam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I want RAID 5 but without mirroring. The data is important but not that > important. Ok, there are performance advantages and disadvantages to RAID5. First, the advantage: reading is awesome. almost as good as a stripe. the other advantage: writes in f

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-08 Thread Mag Gam
Well said. Thankyou and everyone On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 07:33 -0400, Mag Gam wrote: > > Again, I appreciate the responses. > > > > Damon: > > > > I am dealing with HW RAID. I looked for the "geometry" for my > > contr

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-08 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 07:33 -0400, Mag Gam wrote: > Again, I appreciate the responses. > > Damon: > > I am dealing with HW RAID. I looked for the "geometry" for my > controller, but could not find it. > > http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DocumentIndex.jsp?contentType=SupportMan

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-08 Thread Mag Gam
Again, I appreciate the responses. Damon: I am dealing with HW RAID. I looked for the "geometry" for my controller, but could not find it. http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DocumentIndex.jsp?contentType=SupportManual&lang=en&cc=us&docIndexId=64179&taskId=101&prodTypeId=329290&prod

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat June 7 2008 17:04:02 Mag Gam wrote: > Does this page, > http://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2006-October/msg00014.html, hold > any validity? The poster makes a good argument, but by seeing Damon's > response it makes no sense to go thru the trouble. I would be willing to > try this if I

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 20:04 -0400, Mag Gam wrote: > Thanks thats the exact same question I have. > > Does this page, > http://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2006-October/msg00014.html, > hold any validity? The poster makes a good argument, but by seeing > Damon's response it makes no sense to g

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Mag Gam
Thanks thats the exact same question I have. Does this page, http://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2006-October/msg00014.html, hold any validity? The poster makes a good argument, but by seeing Damon's response it makes no sense to go thru the trouble. I would be willing to try this if I get so

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Richard Hector
On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 11:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Striping is a GREAT idea IFF you want serious speed, but don't care > about your data. If one of the disks goes flaky, *all* the data on > the stripeset goes poof. > > So, *never* use striping on a production server!! Unless you hate > the

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 17:05 -0400, Mag Gam wrote: > Thanks for the responses all. > > I want RAID 5 but without mirroring. The data is important but not > that important. > I am planning to use LVM. > > If the controller creates a stripe size of 16k, do I need to do > anything special with physi

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/07/08 16:05, Mag Gam wrote: > Thanks for the responses all. > > I want RAID 5 but without mirroring. The data is important but not that > important. Ummm, there is NO mirroring in RAID 5. Never has been. > I am planning to use LVM. > > If th

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/07/08 11:15, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > > Otherwise, use RAID 0, 10, 0+1 or 5. My mistake: not RAID 0, but RAID 1. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed." -B

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Mag Gam
Thanks for the responses all. I want RAID 5 but without mirroring. The data is important but not that important. I am planning to use LVM. If the controller creates a stripe size of 16k, do I need to do anything special with physical extends (in pvcreate or vgcreate) ? Do I need to do anything sp

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 12:52:24PM -0400, Mag Gam wrote: > With the RAID array I am planning to use RAID 5 so my data is still > protected. My confusion is going with RAID striping (picking the right > size). Also, Does the filesystem layout need to be specific when I do > striping? If I am using 1

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The other reason why I hate gmail is that it, like Outlook, naturally top-posts... On 06/07/08 11:52, Mag Gam wrote: > With the RAID array I am planning to use RAID 5 so my data is still > protected. My confusion is going with RAID striping (picking

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Mag Gam
With the RAID array I am planning to use RAID 5 so my data is still protected. My confusion is going with RAID striping (picking the right size). Also, Does the filesystem layout need to be specific when I do striping? If I am using 128k stripes, should I start my filesystem on 129k and end with ma

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 11:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/07/08 07:27, Mag Gam wrote: > > > > I have a RAID controller with 256MB of on board cache and its connected > > to 12 500GB SATA disks. I am planning to create 2 RAID groups (6 disks

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/07/08 07:27, Mag Gam wrote: > > I have a RAID controller with 256MB of on board cache and its connected > to 12 500GB SATA disks. I am planning to create 2 RAID groups (6 disks > each), but I don't know what is the optimal stripe size should be.

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat June 7 2008 08:32:27 Mag Gam wrote: > I haven't even approached the file system level yet. The application is a > basic fileserver which will host our professor's mechanical engineering > images. These images can be anywhere from 20MB to 300MB so I would consider > them "normal files". > > I

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 11:32 -0400, Mag Gam wrote: > Damon, > > I haven't even approached the file system level yet. The application > is a basic fileserver which will host our professor's mechanical > engineering images. These images can be anywhere from 20MB to 300MB so > I would consider them "n

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Mag Gam
Damon, I haven't even approached the file system level yet. The application is a basic fileserver which will host our professor's mechanical engineering images. These images can be anywhere from 20MB to 300MB so I would consider them "normal files". I am hoping some hardware people can chime in a

Re: RAID for large disks

2008-06-07 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 08:27 -0400, Mag Gam wrote: > > I have a RAID controller with 256MB of on board cache and its > connected to 12 500GB SATA disks. I am planning to create 2 RAID > groups (6 disks each), but I don't know what is the optimal stripe > size should be. Are you going to use the R