Well said.

Thankyou and everyone


On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 07:33 -0400, Mag Gam wrote:
> > Again, I appreciate the responses.
> >
> > Damon:
> >
> > I am dealing with HW RAID. I looked for the "geometry" for my
> > controller, but could not find it.
> >
> >
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DocumentIndex.jsp?contentType=SupportManual&lang=en&cc=us&docIndexId=64179&taskId=101&prodTypeId=329290&prodSeriesId=1157686
> >
> > I am very curious about the geometry too...
> >
> >  I don't know enough to pick and choose the optimal setting. Since I
> > am working in the academic field, I would like to really understand
> > this "geometry setting". Can someone please elaborate on this topic?
> >
> > TIA
>
> Mag,
>
> It looks like your controller does not let you set very much manually:
> page 13 shows you can set the Stripe Size.   At this point, jump in and
> play.  But again, I don't think it will amount to a hill of beans.  The
> controller "masks" all reads and writes to the physical drives and the
> OS is ignorant of the underlining details.  IF you needed to set it up a
> certain way, you would KNOW it.  And even so, it looks like the only
> things you can adjust with this controller is the stripe size.  In
> almost all cases the "optimal" setting is the default of the controller
> when you use it's setup "wizard" thingy, what ever it may be called.
> All other deviations are for very specific instructions in some manual
> for some application (or you spend much time bench testing to arrive at
> what works best for you with that given hardware).  Some advice:  unless
> you are being graded in some way on the maximum through put of this
> server:  Jump in, install it and be done.
>
> We (IT) don't know the "optimum" settings of such things.  We play with
> it per some set of (specific) directions or we have a test box we can
> bench test to meet some objective with.  This concept is a moving,
> slippery thing.  It all depends on your network throughput, latency, cpu
> load, bus load, I/O of every other component, I/O of the controller,
> it's (the controller) memory, physical hd read/write speed and probably
> a few more I can't think of right now.
>
> Kill this beast, install the os using defaults for the HDs, see if you
> can serve up the files at a rate that works for you, if not, look it
> over again.
>
> BTW, on the next model server you get, everything you learn here will
> not be valid unless it is the exact same set of hardware.  That is why I
> would not fret over this, there is no "great maxim" to be learned except
> "can I set up THIS box to work at the rate I need?"  Sometimes the
> answer is no, but that falls onto the procurement end of the deal.
>
> A DBA will spend much time telling a sys admin what strip to put onto a
> RAID (using a hardware controller), but that is from the application mfg
> having benched tested a specific model of server with very specific
> hardware to arrive at the best throughput possible with a given hardware
> load out.  This is not your situation.  The only answer is to test.
>
> Anyway, that is my 2C worth.
>
>
> --
> Damon L. Chesser
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser
>

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