On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 21:06 -0300, D G Teed wrote:
> Win XP installer prompts "F6 to add hardware drivers" or some such.
> It makes the opportunity known. It isn't impossible for the Debian
> installer to do something to introduce the possibility as I mentioned
> before.
Debian has expert modes,
On 3/19/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You gave him Sarge, right? Have him do a straight install of WindowsXP
with no other CD. Watch him crash and burn as well. Or if he "excuses"
the additional drivers disk(s) required to install WindowsXP then he is
not at all "unbiased".
Win
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 07:50:51AM -0300, D G Teed wrote:
>
> I spent all of last summer trying to educate the managers. I've given
> up. They won't read or listen. They have heard that Linux users tend to
> be emotional fans of their particular distro and can present any
> information to back
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 07:50 -0300, D G Teed wrote:
> On 3/19/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Of course, you could point out that about 60% of existing
> popular
> distributions are originally derived and modified from Debian.
>
> I spent
On 3/19/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Of course, you could point out that about 60% of existing popular
distributions are originally derived and modified from Debian.
I spent all of last summer trying to educate the managers. I've given
up. They won't read or listen. They h
On Sun, 2007-03-18 at 23:46 -0300, D G Teed wrote:
> On 3/18/07, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 07:51:07AM -0300, D G Teed wrote:
> >
> > I agree that the kernel within the installer is something
> > needing to be updated more
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 11:46:08PM -0300, D G Teed wrote:
> On 3/18/07, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 07:51:07AM -0300, D G Teed wrote:
> >>
> >> I agree that the kernel within the installer is something
> >> needing to be updated more often.
> >
> >Ex
On 3/18/07, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 07:51:07AM -0300, D G Teed wrote:
>
> I agree that the kernel within the installer is something
> needing to be updated more often.
Except that this means that the kernel in the installer needs to be
installable a
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 07:51:07AM -0300, D G Teed wrote:
>
> I agree that the kernel within the installer is something
> needing to be updated more often.
Except that this means that the kernel in the installer needs to be
installable as a default kernel, which means that it must also be
support
On 3/17/07, Andy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A lot of hardware resellers are currently saying "Debian doesn't
work on this hardware" but when you investigate it turns out that
they heard that the default Sarge install does not support the SATA
controller, and they don't care to find out mo
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 05:45:21PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Greg Folkert wrote:
> > Hosting companies disallowing Debian as an available
> > distro
>
> I don't remember this happening either. I *do* recall a lot of users
> switching to and installing sarge before i
Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Remember, Debian is a mostly Volunteer effort. Deadlines are for
No, Debian is, and always has been, about producing "stable". :-)
I agree pretty much with everything else you said. I'm very grateful
for all the efforts of all volunteer's involved. I hop
Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Bill wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-14-03 at 10:45 -0400, Celejar wrote:
> >> What is this all about? I've been following d-u pretty closely
> >> recently, and I haven't seen much DT discussion here.
> >
> > Ideally, bridging the gap.
> >
> > Not that I've any inflat
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 17:45 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Greg Folkert wrote:
> > Sarge was so late, that things happened, including:
> > Ubuntu taking shape.
>
> This is kind of like claiming that Progeny came about because potato was
> late, or Stormix because woody was late.
Greg Folkert wrote:
> Sarge was so late, that things happened, including:
> Ubuntu taking shape.
This is kind of like claiming that Progeny came about because potato was
late, or Stormix because woody was late. At best it glances off one
possible reason for making a derived
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 10:16 -0800, Bill wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-14-03 at 12:35 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > Etch being release on April 2, 2007 (tentative per last nights
> > announcements) is EONs ahead of Sarge's and Woody's release cycles.
> > It'll only be about 4-5 months late. Consider less t
On Wed, 2007-14-03 at 12:35 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> Etch being release on April 2, 2007 (tentative per last nights
> announcements) is EONs ahead of Sarge's and Woody's release cycles.
> It'll only be about 4-5 months late. Consider less than 2 years for
> Etch. Sarge was HOW Long? And How lon
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 07:40 -0800, Bill wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I know much has already been said, and I certainly am not
> interested in starting a flame war, but isn't it time
> to move on?
>
> Both sides have made their point and I doubt the experiment
> will be repeated in future. But haven'
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>Hi folks,
>
>I know much has already been said, and I certainly am not
>interested in starting a flame war, but isn't it time
>to move on?
>
>Both sides have made their point and I doubt the experiment
>will be repeated in future. But haven't we had enou
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Bill wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-14-03 at 10:45 -0400, Celejar wrote:
>> What is this all about? I've been following d-u pretty closely
>> recently, and I haven't seen much DT discussion here.
>>
>> Celejar
>>
>
> Ideally, bridging the gap.
>
> Not that I
On Wed, 2007-14-03 at 10:45 -0400, Celejar wrote:
> What is this all about? I've been following d-u pretty closely
> recently, and I haven't seen much DT discussion here.
>
> Celejar
>
Ideally, bridging the gap.
Not that I've any inflated sense of my own importance, or
ability to resolve the
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:40:13 -0800
Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I know much has already been said, and I certainly am not
> interested in starting a flame war, but isn't it time
> to move on?
>
> Both sides have made their point and I doubt the experiment
> will be repeated
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