Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

David Wright (12023-04-25): > Don't knock it! The Human Era is much easier for us to parse than ;-) > the French Republican calendar (pre 2018). I had not realized I had fans devoted to the point of tracking the eras of my mail attribution. ;-)² Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc De

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Greg Wooledge (12023-04-25): > find /mnt/boot/efi -exec ls -dl {} + zsh ls -dl /mnt/boot/efi/**/* Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

On Wed 26 Apr 2023 at 09:14:25 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 26/04/2023 00:42, Nicolas George wrote: > > Steve McIntyre (12023-04-25): [ … ] > P.S. Nicolas, it seems your mailer has issues with parsing or > formatting timestamps. Don't knock it! The Human Era is much easier for us to parse th

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 09:34:11AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 26/04/2023 05:02, Valentin Caracalla wrote: > > > > user@host:~$ ls -dl $(find /mnt/boot/efi) > > find /mnt/boot/efi -print0 | xargs -0 ls -dl -- > > should be more resistant to peculiar file names, but it does not matter in > thi

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

On 26/04/2023 05:02, Valentin Caracalla wrote: user@host:~$ ls -dl $(find /mnt/boot/efi) find /mnt/boot/efi -print0 | xargs -0 ls -dl -- should be more resistant to peculiar file names, but it does not matter in this case. ... -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 126 Apr 25 13:59 /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

On 26/04/2023 00:42, Nicolas George wrote: Steve McIntyre (12023-04-25): If you do not intend to install a Microsoft bootloader or anything besides GRUB, 16 megaoctets is plenty enough, probably can work with less. Please STOP giving this advice to people! That was not advice, that was inform

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Valentin Caracalla (12023-04-26): > EFI variables are not supported on this system. To install GRUB in UEFI, you need to have booted the kernel in UEFI. Try to find a live image that does, and you can reinstall GRUB from there. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP sign

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Here's the output you requested: user@host:~$ ls -dl $(find /mnt/boot/efi) drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   32768 Jan  1  1970 /mnt/boot/efi drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   32768 Apr 25 13:59 /mnt/boot/efi/EFI drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   32768 Apr 25 13:59 /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/debian -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 108

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Steve McIntyre (12023-04-25): > >If you do not intend to install a Microsoft bootloader or anything > >besides GRUB, 16 megaoctets is plenty enough, probably can work with > >less. > Please STOP giving this advice to people! That was not advice, that was information. Make your own advice with it.

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Nicolas George wrote: >Max Nikulin (12023-04-25): >> 0.5GB is usually enough, e.g. 550MiB recommended by >> https://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/advice.html#esp_sizing) > >If you do not intend to install a Microsoft bootloader or anything >besides GRUB, 16 megaoctets is plenty enough, probably can work

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Max Nikulin (12023-04-25): > 0.5GB is usually enough, e.g. 550MiB recommended by > https://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/advice.html#esp_sizing) If you do not intend to install a Microsoft bootloader or anything besides GRUB, 16 megaoctets is plenty enough, probably can work with less. Regards, --

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

On 25/04/2023 21:40, Valentin Caracalla wrote: I checked my partition table using "sudo parted /dev/sda print" Number  Start   End    Size   File system  Name  Flags 1  1049kB  128GB  128GB  fat32    init  boot, esp 2  128GB   256GB  128GB  ext4 root Please, show

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

vorubergeh...@tutanota.com wrote: >By the way: > >The disadvantage of using EFI is that it doesn't work in QEMU, i.e. the >following will not show a GRUB command line: > >sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -accel kvm -smp 2 -m 2G /dev/sda > >The same thing works for the BIOS boot interface, however (as in my

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Valentin Caracalla (12023-04-25): > The disadvantage of using EFI is that it doesn't work in QEMU, i.e. the > following will not show a GRUB command line: > > sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -accel kvm -smp 2 -m 2G /dev/sda Oh, I must check if the KVM virtual machine booting on UEFI I have been toying w

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

By the way: The disadvantage of using EFI is that it doesn't work in QEMU, i.e. the following will not show a GRUB command line: sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -accel kvm -smp 2 -m 2G /dev/sda The same thing works for the BIOS boot interface, however (as in my original recipe).

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

I apologize for the formatting in my last post, I don't know what happened. And many thanks for your help! I checked my partition table using "sudo parted /dev/sda print" and it didn't show any flags for partition 1 (the "init" partition). Therefore I manually set the flags using "sudo parted /

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Valentin Caracalla writes: > But this doesn't work either. Same problem here. However I can make > such an EFI installation using official installation media on the same > machine and that does work. That recipe (and the whole post) was hard to read but don't you need some flags for the ESP part

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

> I can't see anything wrong with the script. Did that installation use> GPT > and a BIOS Boot Partition though?The successful installation (with official > installation media) used aBIOS partition table, but I prefer GPT.> I guess I > have to ask, why not just use UEFI?I also tried that and I c

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

There are a few things I forgot to say: The recipe I posted earlier is executed on a system installed on the external drive /dev/sdb, which I call the installer system. It is also a Debian system, with the recipe's dependencies installed. To reproduce the issue (if you want), I suggest using a

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Valentin Caracalla writes: > Previously, I've successfully installaed Debian using official > installation media on this machine (also using BIOS boot interface), > so I know that it works in principle. I can't see anything wrong with the script. Did that installation use GPT and a BIOS Boot Par

Re: Debian installation doesn't see my network

Am Montag, 10. Januar 2022, 16:21:25 CET schrieb Eric S Fraga: Had a similar issue with a notebook from Dell some time ago. The reason was, that the binary firmware did not exist on on the installer cdrom or dvd. The network interface was just too new! This is a problem with debian's policy and

Re: Debian installation doesn't see my network

On Saturday, 8 Jan 2022 at 20:07, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > If you can bear it: reinstall, using the unofficial image, including > non-free firmware. I had to do this for a recently purchased Dell laptop with Intel NIC on-board. Worked just fine this way but wouldn't install without the non-fre

Re: Debian installation doesn't see my network

sciguy composed on 2022-01-08 12:13 (UTC-0500): > It seems the root of my problem is in Microsoft's choice to take over > the EFI in a recent update, thereby supplanting GRUB, which was there > before. GRUB was a technology I understood fairly well; EFI is not. Can > anyone suggest, or point to

Re: Debian installation doesn't see my network

On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 12:13:41PM -0500, sciguy wrote: > This has happened with what I have tried so far: Debian and Ubuntu. I have > been accustomed to my network card being auto-detected and the internet > being automatically connected with an installation, but I am not getting > internet on ins

Re: Debian installation doesn't see my network

On 1/8/22 19:13, sciguy wrote: > This has happened with what I have tried so far: Debian and Ubuntu. I > have been accustomed to my network card being auto-detected and the > internet being automatically connected with an installation, but I am > not getting internet on installation, so much of the

Re: debian installation issue

David Wright composed on 2021-07-04 10:29 (UTC-0500): > On Tue 29 Jun 2021 at 13:26:04 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: >> David Wright composed on 2021-06-29 11:16 (UTC-0500): ... >>> I don't understand the attraction of messing about with boot flags >>> in order to choose which primary partition to

Re: debian installation issue

On Tue 29 Jun 2021 at 13:26:04 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2021-06-29 11:16 (UTC-0500): > > On Thu 24 Jun 2021 at 00:07:56 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > >> David Wright composed on 2021-06-22 10:50 (UTC-0500): > > >> I'm not sure there is "a" definition. One could be any

Re: debian installation issue

David Wright composed on 2021-06-29 11:16 (UTC-0500): > On Thu 24 Jun 2021 at 00:07:56 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: >> David Wright composed on 2021-06-22 10:50 (UTC-0500): >> I'm not sure there is "a" definition. One could be any code that a Windows >> installation would not replace. Another cou

Re: debian installation issue

On Thu 24 Jun 2021 at 00:07:56 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2021-06-22 10:50 (UTC-0500): > > On Fri 11 Jun 2021 at 16:57:35 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > > >> OTOH, putting a bootloader on the MBR of a disk on a PC designed for > >> Windows is a > >> relative newcomer to

Re: debian installation issue

David Wright composed on 2021-06-22 10:50 (UTC-0500): > On Fri 11 Jun 2021 at 16:57:35 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: >> OTOH, putting a bootloader on the MBR of a disk on a PC designed for Windows >> is a >> relative newcomer to the world of booting such a PC. I've been installing >> operating sys

Re: debian installation issue

On Mi, 23 iun 21, 19:43:14, Richard Hector wrote: > > Is that something that needs to be done by one company? Perhaps because of > how SecureBoot is implemented? For a logistic point of view, at least for x86, Microsoft appears to be the natural choice: many mainboard manufacturers, but most ha

Re: debian installation issue

On 22/06/21 12:54 am, Steve McIntyre wrote: [ Apologies, missed this last week... ] to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 09:20:52AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 11 iun 21, 15:07:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Secure Boot (Microsoft's attempt to stop you from using Linux) reli

Re: debian installation issue

On Fri 11 Jun 2021 at 16:57:35 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Greg Wooledge composed on 2021-06-11 15:07 (UTC-0400): > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 09:38:37PM +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote: > > >> How to check where grub is installed? And what is a friendly guide to > >> learning about grub? > > > GRUB sh

Re: debian installation issue

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 12:54:31PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > [ Apologies, missed this last week... ] No need to apologise: I appreciate the detailed answer. > > - do you know any other alternative CA besides Microsoft [...] > I've been in a number of discussions about this over the last few

Re: debian installation issue

[ Apologies, missed this last week... ] to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 09:20:52AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Vi, 11 iun 21, 15:07:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > >> > Secure Boot (Microsoft's attempt to stop you from using Linux) relies on >> > UEFI booting, and therefor

Re: Secure Boot in QEMU (was Re: debian installation issue)

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 06:07:50AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > Okay. I am running Debian Bullseye (selected earlier, during its testing > phase, because I needed its level of QEMU to import a VM from Mint 20's > QEMU: Buster's QEMU refused). My computer is an HP EliteDesk 705 G1-SFF. > > I h

Re: [Off topic thoughts] Re: debian installation issue

On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 11:41:37 +0200 wrote: > "Any sufficiently advanced malice is indistinguishable from > stupidity" > > (some call that "plausible deniability"). > > "People would rather appear stupid than evil". -- Joe

Secure Boot in QEMU (was Re: debian installation issue)

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 4:45 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > Secure Boot (Microsoft's attempt to stop you from using Linux) > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > While I'm not a fan of Microsoft: > > > https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot#What_is_UEFI_Secure_Boot_NOT.3 > >

Re: [Off topic thoughts] Re: debian installation issue

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 10:46:34AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > Secure Boot (Microsoft's attempt to stop you from using Linux) > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > While I'm not a fan of Microsoft: > > > https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot#What_is_UEFI_Secure_Boot

[Off topic thoughts] Re: debian installation issue

Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Secure Boot (Microsoft's attempt to stop you from using Linux) Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > While I'm not a fan of Microsoft: > > https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot#What_is_UEFI_Secure_Boot_NOT.3 > > "Microsoft act as a Certification Authority (CA) for SB, and they wil

Re: debian installation issue

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 09:20:52AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 11 iun 21, 15:07:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > Secure Boot (Microsoft's attempt to stop you from using Linux) relies on > > UEFI booting, and therefore this was one of the driving forces behind it, > > but not the *only* d

Re: debian installation issue

On Vi, 11 iun 21, 15:07:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Secure Boot (Microsoft's attempt to stop you from using Linux) relies on > UEFI booting, and therefore this was one of the driving forces behind it, > but not the *only* driving force. If your machine doesn't use Secure Boot, > don't worry abou

Re: debian installation issue

(I wrote this over 12 hours ago, before I went to bed, and forgot to send first.) Joe composed on 2021-06-12 07:59 (UTC+0100): > It doesn't help that the BIOS is broken, that it does not honour the > EFI DefaultBoot, and always rewrites entry if I change it.

Re: debian installation issue

Joe wrote: > >Grub lives in more than one place: most of it is in /boot/grub, but >there is a first-stage bootloader which calls this. To be honest, >I don't know for sure where that lives on a GPT disk, on the old >DOS-type partition it would live at the start of either the whole hard >drive or th

Re: debian installation issue

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: ... > These sound like either: broken versions of UEFI / broken installations or, > exceptionally, a broken manufacturer somewhere. > > It may be worth revisiting installations when Bulleseye comes out to > get something that works and is supportable for the next few years

Re: debian installation issue

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 11:47:16 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 07:09:29AM -0400, songbird wrote: > > Joe wrote: > > ... > > > It doesn't help that the BIOS is broken, that it does not honour > > > the EFI DefaultBoot, and always rewrites entry if I change > > > it.

Re: debian installation issue

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 07:09:29 -0400 songbird wrote: > Joe wrote: > ... > > It doesn't help that the BIOS is broken, that it does not honour the > > EFI DefaultBoot, and always rewrites entry if I change it. > > Fortunately, it does honour NextBoot, or I'd never be able to get it > > booted in

Re: debian installation issue

On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 07:09:29AM -0400, songbird wrote: > Joe wrote: > ... > > It doesn't help that the BIOS is broken, that it does not honour the > > EFI DefaultBoot, and always rewrites entry if I change it. > > Fortunately, it does honour NextBoot, or I'd never be able to get it > > boot

Re: debian installation issue

Joe wrote: ... > It doesn't help that the BIOS is broken, that it does not honour the > EFI DefaultBoot, and always rewrites entry if I change it. > Fortunately, it does honour NextBoot, or I'd never be able to get it > booted into buster. But it worked with stretch. I could try installing > s

Re: debian installation issue

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 18:24:43 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: > Joe composed on 2021-06-11 20:14 (UTC+0100): > > > I have a netbook which booted fine into grub on stretch, > > but an upgrade to buster killed that, and to boot into buster I > > have to use a rescue medium and use efibootmgr to set NextBo

Re: debian installation issue

Joe composed on 2021-06-11 20:14 (UTC+0100): > I have a netbook which booted fine into grub on stretch, > but an upgrade to buster killed that, and to boot into buster I have to > use a rescue medium and use efibootmgr to set NextBoot to the right > entry. Nobody here seems able to help, and I gav

Re: debian installation issue

On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 12:52:47AM +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Yes I am running in UEFI mode, but the partitioning is MBR and not GPT. Is > this a problem? Which is preferred when? Really, GPT is the future. The "MBR" disk label is another product of the 1980s. It doesn't even support disks over

Re: debian installation issue

Dear Greg, and everyone else thanks for the detailed responses. By UEFI versus Legacy Boot you mean things that are determined in BIOS settings correct? Yes I am running in UEFI mode, but the partitioning is MBR and not GPT. Is this a problem? Which is preferred when? Why would legacy boot be pre

Re: debian installation issue

Greg Wooledge composed on 2021-06-11 15:07 (UTC-0400): > On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 09:38:37PM +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote: >> How to check where grub is installed? And what is a friendly guide to >> learning about grub? > GRUB should be installed on the *disk* (not on a partition) that you > intend t

Re: debian installation issue

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 21:38:37 +0300 Semih Ozlem wrote: > I reinstalled the system, including an efi partition (500MiB) and the > problem was fixed. > > How to check where grub is installed? And what is a friendly guide to > learning about grub? I don't like quoting specific sources, as they go o

Re: debian installation issue

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 09:38:37PM +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote: > I reinstalled the system, including an efi partition (500MiB) and the > problem was fixed. This suggests that you booted the installer in UEFI mode, rather than in Legacy mode. If you boot the installer in UEFI mode, you are expected

Re: debian installation issue

I reinstalled the system, including an efi partition (500MiB) and the problem was fixed. How to check where grub is installed? And what is a friendly guide to learning about grub? Richard Owlett , 11 Haz 2021 Cum, 20:17 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > On 06/11/2021 11:31 AM, Semih Ozlem wrote: > > Hi ev

Re: debian installation issue

On 06/11/2021 11:31 AM, Semih Ozlem wrote: Hi everyone, I am using 64bit with 4GiB system memory Intel COre i3-7100U @ 2.40 GHZ machine. I installed debian on a usb (sandisk cruzer blade 2.0 32 GB). I created a single partition. At the moment the system does not boot. From the installation medi

Re: debian installation is no longer working

> On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 at 20:27, Semih Ozlem > wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > I installed debian 10 on a 64 GB usb. It had been > > working fine. Last I installed apache server, virtualbox, > > docker. After all this it worked fine for a while, though > > at times slowly. Currently it is not wo

Re: debian installation is no longer working

On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 at 20:27, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Hi everyone, > I installed debian 10 on a 64 GB usb. It had been working fine. Last I > installed apache server, virtualbox, docker. After all this it worked fine > for a while, though at times slowly. Currently it is not working. It does not

Re: debian installation is no longer working

When Debian is starting the following are the highlighted messages and or places where booting pauses and at the very end pauses almost indefinitely (or rather when I lost the patience for waiting for new messages to come up and shut down the machine). I am writing everything down I was able to ge

Re: debian installation is no longer working

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 12:23:21PM +, Semih Ozlem wrote: > In addition to my earlier message, the usb drive has three partitions FAT > partition including EFI, swap partition, btrfs partition where home folder > is located. > > sudo btrfs rescue super-recover /dev/sdc3 > gives the response >

Re: debian installation is no longer working

In addition to my earlier message, the usb drive has three partitions FAT partition including EFI, swap partition, btrfs partition where home folder is located. sudo btrfs rescue super-recover /dev/sdc3 gives the response All supers are valid, no need to recover When starting from the usb, the b

Re: debian installation is no longer working

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 12:26:36PM +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I installed debian 10 on a 64 GB usb [...] USB sticks sometimes die slow deaths. It'd be interesting to check the file systems on your USB stick, perhaps from another Linux installation, perhaps from a live or rescue

Re: Debian installation

Good Day, Harold Hartley > I have it installed but connection seems slow and my WiFi > adapter doesn’t work with it. The booting shows it could not > raise network on boot, but it does work. I also noticed that > Debian 9.5 is running an older kernel where my other Linux > boxes are running the

Re: Debian installation

I have it installed but connection seems slow and my WiFi adapter doesn’t work with it.The booting shows it could not raise network on boot, but it does work.I also noticed that Debian 9.5 is running an older kernel where my other Linux boxes are running the newest. On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, at 10:10

Re: Debian installation

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 14:30:20 +0900 Mark Fletcher wrote: ... > If there are _no_ mirrors available, that sounds to me more like a > problem with your local network setup, most likely your network device > in your computer is not recognised properly. By any chance is it WiFi? > Some WiFi devices

Re: Debian installation

On Mon 03 Sep 2018 at 14:30:20 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 09:34:40PM -0700, Harold Hartley wrote: > > I had ordered myself a Debian dvd 9.5 and everything was installing > > great until it came to scan the mirrors.It seems I was not able to scan a > > mirror so that I w

Re: Debian installation

On 9/3/18, Harold Hartley wrote: > I have two computers. One is fedora and the other I want Debian on it. > Both computers run Ethernet to a router that runs dd-wrt and fedora > connects to internet just fine. I’m actually running a wireless Ethernet > to the modem that connects to isp(cox).But if

Re: Debian installation

I have two computers. One is fedora and the other I want Debian on it. Both computers run Ethernet to a router that runs dd-wrt and fedora connects to internet just fine. I’m actually running a wireless Ethernet to the modem that connects to isp(cox).But if Debian has firmware included in the inst

Re: Debian installation

On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 09:34:40PM -0700, Harold Hartley wrote: > I had ordered myself a Debian dvd 9.5 and everything was installing > great until it came to scan the mirrors.It seems I was not able to scan a > mirror so that I would be able to apt > an app, but I tried many mirrors and nothing.C

Re: Debian installation issues

On 06/11/2017 08:34 AM, Michael Fothergill wrote: On 10 June 2017 at 14:05, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/09/2017 03:37 PM, Michael Fothergill wrote: On 9 June 2017 at 20:59, Fungi4All wrote: Here is some relevant reading of installing linux system besides Win8 and in some cases the same pr

Re: Debian installation issues

On 10 June 2017 at 14:05, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/09/2017 03:37 PM, Michael Fothergill wrote: > >> On 9 June 2017 at 20:59, Fungi4All wrote: >> >> Here is some relevant reading of installing linux system besides Win8 and >>> in some cases the same problem exists on Win 10. >>> https://asku

Re: Debian installation issues

On 06/09/2017 03:37 PM, Michael Fothergill wrote: On 9 June 2017 at 20:59, Fungi4All wrote: Here is some relevant reading of installing linux system besides Win8 and in some cases the same problem exists on Win 10. https://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-alongside-a-pre- insta

Re: Debian installation issues

Hi, > In linux alone the MBR is unnecessary and boot info can be stored in > each partition and be handled by grub or lilo.  Correct? Not really. A hard-disk-like device that is bootable via BIOS or EFI must have an MBR. For BIOS because of the x86 prgram. For EFI because of the need for a partit

Re: Debian installation issues

UTC Time: June 10, 2017 8:19 AM From: pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org Le 10/06/2017 à 10:07, Fungi4All a écrit : > From: scdbac...@gmx.net > > To boot from hard disk or USB stick, there must be a Master Boot Record. > > In linux alone the MBR is unnecessary and boot info can be stored in > each partition a

Re: Debian installation issues

Le 10/06/2017 à 10:07, Fungi4All a écrit : From: scdbac...@gmx.net To boot from hard disk or USB stick, there must be a Master Boot Record. In linux alone the MBR is unnecessary and boot info can be stored in each partition and be handled by grub or lilo. Correct? Not correct. A MBR is necess

Re: Debian installation issues

Original Message Subject: Re: Debian installation issues UTC Time: June 10, 2017 7:16 AM From: scdbac...@gmx.net Hi, by mistake Fungi4All and i exchanged a few mails in private. I put this back to the list (although it could deserve a new topic). He showed me a xorriso report

Re: Debian installation issues

Hi, by mistake Fungi4All and i exchanged a few mails in private. I put this back to the list (although it could deserve a new topic). He showed me a xorriso report of a MS-Windows "ISO" (which we now know is actually an UDF filesystem), and i stated the same as with my reply here to Dan Ritter:

Re: Debian installation issues

On 9 June 2017 at 20:59, Fungi4All wrote: > Here is some relevant reading of installing linux system besides Win8 and > in some cases the same problem exists on Win 10. > https://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-alongside-a-pre- > installed-windows-with-uefi > ​I read through so

Re: Debian installation issues

Here is some relevant reading of installing linux system besides Win8 and in some cases the same problem exists on Win 10. https://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-alongside-a-pre-installed-windows-with-uefi Ok, MS did what they did, but manufacturers accepted this and incorporate

Re: Debian installation issues

On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 10:47:25 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > Fungi4All wrote: > > try from linux to burn an > > ms-win-installation image, chances are that you will fail despite of what > > way you may try to do so. > > Are there any such images available for free and legally safe to ha

Re: Debian installation issues

Hi, Dan Ritter wrote: > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO/ The site creates a download link which is valid for one day. 4+ GB. Only good that my phone provider forced me on a 50 Mbit/s line last year. $ xorriso -indev Win10_1607_English_x64.iso -report_el_torito p

Re: Debian installation issues

On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 16:24:20 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > Are there any [MS-Windows] images available for free and legally > > > safe > > Joe wrote: > > Oddly enough, there are: > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-GB/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise > > The

Re: Debian installation issues

On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 04:24:20PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > Are there any [MS-Windows] images available for free and legally safe > > Joe wrote: > > Oddly enough, there are: > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-GB/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise > > The registr

Re: Debian installation issues

Hi, On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 14:34:47 +0100 Michael Fothergill wrote: (...) > > I am willing to bet the image written through rufus is fine, your > > problem is booting up from usb as people have mentioned before. I > > like to assume that you did not install win10 in an older pc but > > bought a rec

Re: Debian installation issues

Hi, i wrote: > > Are there any [MS-Windows] images available for free and legally safe Joe wrote: > Oddly enough, there are: > https://www.microsoft.com/en-GB/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise The registration gives me creeps. I came up to the question whether i want to use a Microsoft o

Re: Debian installation issues

On 9 June 2017 at 08:01, Fungi4All wrote: > > UTC Time: June 8, 2017 4:17 PM > From: wool...@eeg.ccf.org > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 11:08:32AM -0500, David DLC wrote: > > Thank you for all the replies! I haven't really used a mailing list > before, > > so I'm not 100% sure I'm responding to the

Re: Debian installation issues

On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 10:47:25 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > Fungi4All wrote: > > try from linux to burn an > > ms-win-installation image, chances are that you will fail despite > > of what way you may try to do so. > > Are there any such images available for free and legally safe to

Re: Debian installation issues

Hi, Fungi4All wrote: > try from linux to burn an > ms-win-installation image, chances are that you will fail despite of what > way you may try to do so. Are there any such images available for free and legally safe to have and to talk about ? > Propbably Thomas from xorisso fame can explain > b

Re: Debian installation issues

UTC Time: June 8, 2017 4:17 PM From: wool...@eeg.ccf.org On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 11:08:32AM -0500, David DLC wrote: > Thank you for all the replies! I haven't really used a mailing list before, > so I'm not 100% sure I'm responding to the correct location. Do I hit > "reply all" or just reply to t

Re: Debian installation issues

On 06/08/2017 09:08 AM, David DLC wrote: HP Spectre XT TouchSmart PC The first task is to get a known good USB flash drive with the Debian installer in it. Is there a local Linux Users Group, or do you have a knowledgeable friend, who can help you with this? The next task is booting the

Re: Debian installation issues

On Thu 08 Jun 2017 at 20:48:28 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 08/06/2017 à 19:41, Brian a écrit : > >On Thu 08 Jun 2017 at 12:17:22 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > >>The #debian bot currently recommends > >> > >>if you need to write the Debian instal

Re: Debian installation issues

Le 08/06/2017 à 19:41, Brian a écrit : On Thu 08 Jun 2017 at 12:17:22 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: The #debian bot currently recommends if you need to write the Debian install image to a USB device from Windows. Steve McIntyre, a Debian Developer whose

Re: Debian installation issues

Greg Wooledge composed on 2017-06-08 12:17 (UTC-0400): > For this mailing list, you are expected to reply only to the list address, > unless the person to whom you're replying explicitly requests personal > responses. (This is different from most other technical support mailing > lists in the wor

Re: Debian installation issues

On Thu 08 Jun 2017 at 12:17:22 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 11:08:32AM -0500, David DLC wrote: > > > Anyway, I have disabled secure boot, but that didn't seem to solve the > > problem. My computer does not have a DVD drive, so I put the ISO ( > > debian-8.8.0-amd64-netins

Re: Debian installation issues

On 8 June 2017 at 17:57, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > On 8 June 2017 at 17:52, David DLC wrote: > >> Thank you for the info on the mailing address. >> >> > The #debian bot currently recommends > iskimager/> >> > if you need to write the Debian install image to

Re: Debian installation issues

On 8 June 2017 at 17:52, David DLC wrote: > Thank you for the info on the mailing address. > > > The #debian bot currently recommends iskimager/> > > if you need to write the Debian install image to a USB device from > > Windows. > > I actually used that program t

Re: Debian installation issues

Thank you for the info on the mailing address. > The #debian bot currently recommends > if you need to write the Debian install image to a USB device from > Windows. I actually used that program to write the ISO to the USB stick the first time I tried it

Re: Debian installation issues

On 8 June 2017 at 17:08, David DLC wrote: > Thank you for all the replies! I haven't really used a mailing list > before, so I'm not 100% sure I'm responding to the correct location. Do I > hit "reply all" or just reply to the debian-user@lists.debian.org address? > > Anyway, I have disabled secu

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