Re: Display resolution 3840x2160@24rb stopped working after Upgrade from Stretch to Buster

2019-09-13 Thread Jan Michael Greiner
Thanks to everybody, for all the hints. I think the way to search in, is to create an edid file and load it at boot. I searched in this direction before, I just abandoned that way because it did not work. Now the question I have is: How to create that edid file. The tool I found creates a file i

Re: Display resolution 3840x2160@24rb stopped working after Upgrade from Stretch to Buster

2019-09-12 Thread David Wright
On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 06:23:04 (+), Jan Michael Greiner wrote: > On Monday, September 9, 2019, 1:55:06 PM GMT+2, Charles Curley wrote: > >> On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:20:37+ (UTC) Jan Michael Greiner wrote: > >> With Debian Stretch (9.8) I had the display running with 3840x2160 > >> resolution a

Re: Display resolution 3840x2160@24rb stopped working after Upgrade from Stretch to Buster

2019-09-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Jan Michael Greiner wrote: > Dear all, > > My laptop: Lenovo E520 > Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 3000 (kernel module i915) > > External display AOC U2879VF, 28 inch, connected by HDMI cable > > With Debian Stretch (9.8) I had the display running with 3840x2160 resolution > at 24Hz reduced blank

Re: Display resolution 3840x2160@24rb stopped working after Upgrade from Stretch to Buster

2019-09-12 Thread Torben Schou Jensen
Hi I have a kind of same problem. A monitor able of displaying at 1920x1080. Intel HD Graphics 620 with driver i915/modesetting. With old Stable (kernel 4.9.0-9) it was working fine. With new Stable (kernel 4.19.0-6) it set max display 1024x768. See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?

Re: Display resolution 3840x2160@24rb stopped working after Upgrade from Stretch to Buster

2019-09-11 Thread Jan Michael Greiner
Dear Charles, On Monday, September 9, 2019, 1:55:06 PM GMT+2, Charles Curley wrote: >> On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:20:37+ (UTC) Jan Michael Greiner wrote: >> With Debian Stretch (9.8) I had the display running with 3840x2160 >> resolution at 24Hz reduced blank. >> [What worked with Debian Stretch

Re: Display resolution 3840x2160@24rb stopped working after Upgrade from Stretch to Buster

2019-09-09 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:20:37 + (UTC) Jan Michael Greiner wrote: > With Debian Stretch (9.8) I had the display running with 3840x2160 > resolution at 24Hz reduced blank. And I take it you want to reproduce that on Debian 10 (buster). I suggest you: * Install arandr. * Use arandr to set thing

Re: Display multiple virtual consoles on multiple displays

2019-08-22 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 07:58:51PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: It should be possible to run something like startx -- :1 to open a second X instance on the virtual console. You have to figure out how to start the second X on the other display. It's not that easy with one multiport video ca

Re: Display multiple virtual consoles on multiple displays

2019-08-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 21 aug 19, 16:01:17, Franklin, Jason wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm working on a project that requires me to debug a running screen locker. > > Currently, my workflow involves switching between the screen locker and > virtual > console #1 (/dev/tty1) using Ctrl-Alt-F1 and Ctrl-Alt-F7. This

Re: Display multiple virtual consoles on multiple displays

2019-08-22 Thread Dan Ritter
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, August 22, 2019 10:08:16 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > Franklin, Jason wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > > > I'm working on a project that requires me to debug a running screen > > > locker. > > > > > > Currently, my workflow involves switching between the scree

Re: Display multiple virtual consoles on multiple displays

2019-08-22 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, August 22, 2019 10:08:16 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > Franklin, Jason wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I'm working on a project that requires me to debug a running screen > > locker. > > > > Currently, my workflow involves switching between the screen locker and > > virtual console #1 (/dev/t

Re: Display multiple virtual consoles on multiple displays

2019-08-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Franklin, Jason wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm working on a project that requires me to debug a running screen locker. > > Currently, my workflow involves switching between the screen locker and > virtual > console #1 (/dev/tty1) using Ctrl-Alt-F1 and Ctrl-Alt-F7. This way, I can > interact wit

Re: Display multiple virtual consoles on multiple displays

2019-08-21 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 04:01:17PM -0400, Franklin, Jason wrote: I'm working on a project that requires me to debug a running screen locker. Currently, my workflow involves switching between the screen locker and virtual console #1 (/dev/tty1) using Ctrl-Alt-F1 and Ctrl-Alt-F7. This way, I can

Re: Display problems after installation (Stretch)

2018-11-13 Thread Felix Miata
Robert Kopp composed on 2018-11-14 05:28 (UTC): ... > I succeeded in installing Debian Stretch (x64), but not in getting suitable > graphical > performance. My system includes a 4D display (3840 x 2160), LG 24UD58, and an > AMD RX 480 display > adapter (should use amdgpu). Ubuntu and Fedora both

Re: Display full date in Thunderbird

2018-06-26 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On 06/24/2018 11:56 PM, Ken Heard wrote: How do I get Thunderbird to use the same format for dates/times more than a week old? You need to use the config editor to create/edit mail.ui.display.dateformat.today, mail.ui.display.dateformat.thisweek, and mail.ui.display.dateformat.default as In

Re: Display full date in Thunderbird

2018-06-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 05:36:55PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2018-06-24 23:56 -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > > > I start Thunderbird with the following script: > > > > #! /bin/bash > > export LC_TIME=en_DK.utf8 && thunderbird "$@" > > > > For emails sent or received today only the time is shown,

Re: Display full date in Thunderbird

2018-06-25 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2018-06-24 23:56 -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > I start Thunderbird with the following script: > > #! /bin/bash > export LC_TIME=en_DK.utf8 && thunderbird "$@" > > For emails sent or received today only the time is shown, e.g., 13:17. > For emails sent or received more than a week ago, the year, mon

Re: [Debian-User] Re: [Debian-User] Re: Display image after resume

2018-06-04 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, 2018-06-05 at 13:06 +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 04/06/18 16:39, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > On Mon, 2018-06-04 at 11:07 +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > > > On 04/06/18 10:03, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > > What produces the desktop image that is displayed immediately > > > > after >

Re: [Debian-User] Re: Display image after resume

2018-06-04 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 04/06/18 16:39, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Mon, 2018-06-04 at 11:07 +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: On 04/06/18 10:03, Jim Popovitch wrote: What produces the desktop image that is displayed immediately after resuming from hibernation? When resuming, I see the following in order:    1. the

Re: [Debian-User] Re: Display image after resume

2018-06-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, 2018-06-04 at 11:07 +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 04/06/18 10:03, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > What produces the desktop image that is displayed immediately after > > resuming from hibernation? > > When resuming, I see the following in or

Re: Display image after resume

2018-06-03 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 04/06/18 10:03, Jim Popovitch wrote: What produces the desktop image that is displayed immediately after resuming from hibernation? When resuming, I see the following in order: 1. the boot screen 2. a blank screen 3. the actual desktop (live or a snapshot of it) 4.

Re: display problems, wheezy -> jessie upgrade

2016-05-15 Thread Felix Miata
Mark Copper composed on 2016-05-15 11:57 (UTC-0500): Upgraded to Jessie yesterday (Linux polaris 3.1.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jan 10 05:01:58 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux). 3.1.0 is not a Jessie kernel. Jessie's kernel is 3.16.7. If 3.1.0 is your only kernel, your upgrade is incomplete. Everythin

Re: Re: Display resolution.

2016-01-04 Thread Ricardo M.A.
I have sent twice the Xorg.0.log but I think it is too long for display... ¿Which part is the most needed to understand this? I also have the Xorg.0.old there... ¿Could it be helpful? thanks.

Re: Display resolution.

2016-01-04 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 09:16 -0600, Ricardo M.A. wrote: > In an update fron the last week, something stopped working. Debian no > longer recognize the model and the resolution of the external display > in > automatic. > The only resolutions recognized were the three traditional > resolutions for > V

Re: display problem from wheezy=>jessie upgrade.

2015-10-31 Thread peter
From: Sven Arvidsson , Thu, 10 Sep 2015 22:03:27 +0200 > Sounds like this bug: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768958 Good; thanks. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768958#10 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768958#15 Regards,

Re: display problem from wheezy=>jessie upgrade.

2015-09-10 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 07:20 -0700, Peter Easthope wrote: > Any ideas about this? > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=796113 > > No such problem for wheezy. Hi, Sounds like this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768958 You should probably reassign your bug t

Re: display problem from wheezy=>jessie upgrade.

2015-09-10 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 07:20:18AM -0700, Peter Easthope wrote: > Any ideas about this? > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=796113 > > No such problem for wheezy. Read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to determine what video driver X is using. Set the right one - savage, maybe? - in /etc/xorg

Re: Display in a console (Solved)

2015-01-27 Thread Ron
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:14:02 + Brian wrote: > On Fri 23 Jan 2015 at 20:04:17 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > > > When I boot my box, it starts with a "normal" display of 80 col x 25 lines, > > then the display changes and the characters become so small as to be > > illegible. > > > > Once

Re: Display in a console

2015-01-23 Thread Brian
On Fri 23 Jan 2015 at 20:04:17 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > When I boot my box, it starts with a "normal" display of 80 col x 25 lines, > then the display changes and the characters become so small as to be > illegible. > > Once in X, I also have the illegible small characters when I open a c

Re: Display in a console

2015-01-23 Thread David Wright
Quoting Renaud OLGIATI (ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org): > When I boot my box, it starts with a "normal" display of 80 col x 25 lines, > then the display changes and the characters become so small as to be > illegible. > > Once in X, I also have the illegible small characters when I open a conso

Re: Display drivers for ATI Radeon HD 4350 (RV710) on Wheezy

2013-09-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Adrian Smith wrote: > Shortly after I come across the ATIProprietary [2] page. It describes > how to install ATI's proprietary display driver. > > So to my question; what's the difference between the proprietary, > binary-only firmware described in AtiHowto [1] and the AMD pro

Re: Display drivers for ATI Radeon HD 4350 (RV710) on Wheezy

2013-09-19 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 09/19/2013 11:29 AM, Adrian Smith wrote: Hi, I installed Wheezy yesterday and on first boot Gnome failed to load due to the lack of hardware accelerated graphics. After a quick google I came across the AtiHowTo [1] page. It says I need to install the proprietary firmware for my particular gr

Re: display issues

2013-03-10 Thread Harvey Kelly
Hi Michael, > On 03/10/2013 07:23 PM, Michael wrote: >> My display is skewed to the right about 1/4 inch. While in a terminal >> window, I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it comes back to the >> prompt after about two seconds. On 11 March 2013 00:02, Wayne Topa wrote: > It would be h

Re: display issues

2013-03-10 Thread Wayne Topa
On 03/10/2013 07:23 PM, Michael wrote: Debian 6.0.7 gdm3 LG Flatron monitor model W2253VP My display is skewed to the right about 1/4 inch. While in a terminal window, I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it comes back to the prompt after about two seconds. I rebooted and logged into r

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-10-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 20 sep 12, 17:23:50, lee wrote: > Andrei POPESCU writes: > > > I have however seen LCD monitors behave significantly different > > depending on refresh rate. Entire areas were blury, but everything was > > fine when I switched to another refresh rate (60Hz -> 75Hz if I remember > > corr

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-10-04 Thread Lionel Trésaugues
I have used the standard settings from the screen grab, then I saved them them using shutter as png (so, I don't really know if the magnifier has compressed them before hand). Another thing is that I have currently wiped of the Debian partition that caused me the troubles reported in this thre

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-10-03 Thread Joel Rees
On 10/2/12, Mark Allums wrote: > On 9/30/2012 7:32 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > >> (Mark, did you set the screen grab to give you raw images or compressed?) > > 'Twasn't me. I had a minor disagreement with another user over the > topic of refresh > while trying to make a suggestion, but it wasn't my pr

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/30/2012 7:32 PM, Joel Rees wrote: (Mark, did you set the screen grab to give you raw images or compressed?) 'Twasn't me. I had a minor disagreement with another user over the topic of refresh while trying to make a suggestion, but it wasn't my problem. I wasn't the OP. Mark -- To

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-30 Thread Joel Rees
Top posting because I don't want anyone to feel attacked. We are all users here. Hmm. Look, even the engineers have to operate from incomplete models. No one in this world knows everything. And that's true of the tech we use, including computers. Shoot, even back in the days when some of us thoug

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-27 Thread Neal Murphy
On Thursday, September 27, 2012 02:53:19 AM lee wrote: > Lionel Trésaugues writes: > > http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t405/Alkalyzer/Ubuntu_Terminal_zps831 > > 03ab7.png > > http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t405/Alkalyzer/Debian_Terminal_zps18 > > 67e859.png > > Now I see what you mean, t

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-27 Thread lee
Lionel Trésaugues writes: > http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t405/Alkalyzer/Ubuntu_Terminal_zps83103ab7.png > http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t405/Alkalyzer/Debian_Terminal_zps1867e859.png Now I see what you mean, things look better in Ubuntu. There doesn't seem to be much difference in

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-26 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 09/26/2012 11:12 AM, Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > All right. > > Some users have asked me to upload some screenshots. So, here they are ! > The ones I obtained using Ubuntu got "Ubuntu" in their filenames and > the ones from Debian, "Debian" in their filenames. > I tried to take screenshots as sim

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-23 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU writes: > I have however seen LCD monitors behave significantly different > depending on refresh rate. Entire areas were blury, but everything was > fine when I switched to another refresh rate (60Hz -> 75Hz if I remember > correctly). How did you do that? I thought their rate

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 16:37 -0400, Neal Murphy wrote: > Come now. It just isn't a proper internet discussion without a > flamewar thrown in. :) :D But an OT t the subject for the flame would be nice. > - if a CRT, can you (or anyone with very good ears) hear a very high > pitched whine, nearly

Re: Display settings issue

2012-09-20 Thread Bilal mk
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Bilal mk wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Bilal mk wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Chris Bannister < >> cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: >> >>> [Please don't top post. Reformatted] >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 01:25:27PM +0530,

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I don't remember, you still have Ubuntu installed too? If not, it might be possible that the LCD display gets broken in the meantime, so even degassing of broken semiconductor could be possible or emission of ozone and of course the picture could be less good too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to de

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 08:42 -0700, T Elcor wrote: > - Original Message from Lionel Trésaugues - > > > Lowering the brightness helps a little bit to make the pain more bearable, > > but it is still unpleasant and hurtful after a while. > > Another thing you may want to try is to connect yo

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 11:30 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Inaudible or barely audible noise from either the computer or the > monitor, possibly created by specific clocks cycles of a particular > software load. (TV sets do this to me all the time.) > Try turning the monitor off and staying in fro

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 16:01 +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:31:21 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > > I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my > > computer running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions > > (such as Mint LMDE, XFCE or MATE edition).

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/20/2012 3:37 PM, Lisi wrote: On Thursday 20 September 2012 20:50:40 Mark Allums wrote: You were obsessed with the refresh rate. This is absurd. I mentioned it twice, amid a lot of other things. It is you who are obsessed. If you want to continue this absurd attack on me, may I suggest

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 20 September 2012 20:50:40 Mark Allums wrote: > You were obsessed with the refresh rate. This is absurd. I mentioned it twice, amid a lot of other things. It is you who are obsessed. If you want to continue this absurd attack on me, may I suggest that you go off list. Lisi --

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Neal Murphy
On Thursday, September 20, 2012 03:55:48 PM Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > > And the sub-pixel order is equal too? > > The sub-pixel order is set to rgb (like I do in Ubuntu). I can > definitely see a (worse) change if I use a different mode. > Disabling the sub-pixel smoothing didn't improve anything

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Lionel Trésaugues
LCDs work by blocking the white light from the backlight. If the pannel is leaking UV, the leak should be worse on bright images (probably those with brighter red and blue channel values). But it really should not be leaking any relevant amount of UV in the first place. Very interesting. But it

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Lionel Trésaugues
Another thing you may want to try is to connect your monitor through the VGA connector instead of DVI, if you have the right cable. Not sure if that would help, just curious if that would make any difference. My computer is connected to the Samsung SyncMaster through a VGA connector. Unfortunat

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/20/2012 2:36 PM, Lisi wrote: On Thursday 20 September 2012 18:20:49 Mark Allums wrote: On Thursday 20 September 2012 15:37:54 Mark Allums wrote: Never had that experience or heard of it or dreamt of it. You obviously feel that your experience is more valid than anyone else's when it come

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 20 September 2012 18:20:49 Mark Allums wrote: > > On Thursday 20 September 2012 15:37:54 Mark Allums wrote: > >> Never had that experience or heard of it or dreamt of it. > > > > You obviously feel that your experience is more valid than anyone else's > > when it comes to monitors.  But

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:31:21 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > > I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my > > computer running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions > > (such as Mint LMDE, XFCE or MATE edition). Switching fro

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Mark Allums wrote: > Very few LCD monitors have a refresh setting other than 60Hz. So > few, in fact, that I have never seen one of them. I am sure that it Usually the native resolution is at 60Hz, but not always. And if you are running at a lower resolution than native, ma

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/20/2012 10:16 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 20 sep 12, 09:37:54, Mark Allums wrote: I have however seen LCD monitors behave significantly different depending on refresh rate. Entire areas were blury, but everything was fine when I switched to another refresh rate (60Hz -> 75Hz if I reme

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/20/2012 9:51 AM, Lisi wrote: On Thursday 20 September 2012 15:37:54 Mark Allums wrote: Never had that experience or heard of it or dreamt of it. You obviously feel that your experience is more valid than anyone else's when it comes to monitors. But you appear to know nothing at all about

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread T Elcor
- Original Message from Lionel Trésaugues - > Lowering the brightness helps a little bit to make the pain more bearable, > but it is still unpleasant and hurtful after a while. Another thing you may want to try is to connect your monitor through the VGA connector instead of DVI, if you h

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Joey Hess
Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > Debian and Ubuntu deal with fonts existed. But the unpleasant > feeling is present (even if not so intense), just by looking at the > background of an empty desktop. It seems that the light is too > intense, too violent (even when I reduce the brightness) and that my > ey

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 20 sep 12, 09:37:54, Mark Allums wrote: > > > >I have however seen LCD monitors behave significantly different > >depending on refresh rate. Entire areas were blury, but everything was > >fine when I switched to another refresh rate (60Hz -> 75Hz if I remember > >correctly). > > I have neve

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:31:21 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my > computer running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions > (such as Mint LMDE, XFCE or MATE edition). Switching from XFCE to MATE > doesn't lead to any impr

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 20 September 2012 15:37:54 Mark Allums wrote: > Never had that experience or heard of it or dreamt of it. You obviously feel that your experience is more valid than anyone else's when it comes to monitors. But you appear to know nothing at all about eye/eyesight/eyestrain problems a

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:40:30 +0200, Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > First, thanks all of you to try to solve the issue I encounter with > Debian. > > I will come back now to some of the points you mentioned in the > discussion. (for the next time consider individual replies instead putting all the b

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/20/2012 8:59 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 20 sep 12, 07:18:58, Mark Allums wrote: LCD do not refresh in the same sense as CRTs. They project a continuous picture. If a pixel doesn't change, it stays lit. No fading. OPs problem is not due to refresh, unless it is a CRT. His problem

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 20 sep 12, 07:18:58, Mark Allums wrote: > > LCD do not refresh in the same sense as CRTs. They project a > continuous picture. If a pixel doesn't change, it stays lit. No > fading. OPs problem is not due to refresh, unless it is a CRT. > > His problem is probably due to environmental fa

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 20 September 2012 13:18:58 Mark Allums wrote: > On 9/19/ > > >> LCDs do not flicker. > > > > I *explicitly* did not say flicker. I do not mean flicker. Flicker is > > perceptible to the viewer. > > > > Minitors *do* refresh. They do not all refresh at the same rate. The OP > > is co

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/19/2012 6:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 00:03 +0100, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 19 September 2012 23:38:48 Mark Allums wrote: On 9/19/2012 5:33 PM, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 19 September 2012 22:40:30 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: Yes. Me neither. The only parameter I couldn't

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/19/ LCDs do not flicker. I *explicitly* did not say flicker. I do not mean flicker. Flicker is perceptible to the viewer. Minitors *do* refresh. They do not all refresh at the same rate. The OP is complaining of eye-strain and headaches. These are real, and quite reasonably he would

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 18 sep 12, 23:31:21, Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > Hello, > > I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my > computer running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions > (such as Mint LMDE, XFCE or MATE edition). Switching from XFCE to MATE > doesn't lead to any im

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-20 Thread lee
Lionel Trésaugues writes: > First, thanks all of you to try to solve the issue I encounter with Debian. > > I will come back now to some of the points you mentioned in the discussion. > >> How important is it to you to be able to run Debian? Would it be >> worth some spectacles, or some new one

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 00:03 +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Wednesday 19 September 2012 23:38:48 Mark Allums wrote: > > On 9/19/2012 5:33 PM, Lisi wrote: > > > On Wednesday 19 September 2012 22:40:30 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > > >> Yes. Me neither. The only parameter I couldn't check (due to my lack of > >

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 19 September 2012 23:38:48 Mark Allums wrote: > On 9/19/2012 5:33 PM, Lisi wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 September 2012 22:40:30 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > >> Yes. Me neither. The only parameter I couldn't check (due to my lack of > >> knowledge) is the horizontal refresh rate. Any idea h

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/19/2012 5:33 PM, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 19 September 2012 22:40:30 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: Yes. Me neither. The only parameter I couldn't check (due to my lack of knowledge) is the horizontal refresh rate. Any idea how I can get this value ? I still feel that a very minor difference in

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 19 September 2012 22:40:30 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > Yes. Me neither. The only parameter I couldn't check (due to my lack of > knowledge) is the horizontal refresh rate. Any idea how I can get this > value ? I still feel that a very minor difference in the refresh rates might be at t

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Shane Johnson
Just a wild stab in the Dark here, could it be interlaced? Shane On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 23:40 +0200, Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > > The fonts (with the same hinting and antialiasing settings) > And the sub-pixel order is equal too? > > > -- >

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 23:40 +0200, Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > The fonts (with the same hinting and antialiasing settings) And the sub-pixel order is equal too? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.deb

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Lionel Trésaugues
First, thanks all of you to try to solve the issue I encounter with Debian. I will come back now to some of the points you mentioned in the discussion. How important is it to you to be able to run Debian? Would it be worth some spectacles, or some new ones if you already wear them? (This sol

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:31:21 +0200, Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my computer > running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions (such as > Mint LMDE, XFCE or MATE edition). Switching from XFCE to MATE doesn't > lead to any impro

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 06:47 -0700, T Elcor wrote: > For CRT monitors, anything below 75Hz refresh rate results in visible > flickering It becomes usable at 75Hz, it becomes comfortable at >= 80Hz. If you move your head or the monitor is in the corner of the eye, 75Hz still could noticeable flicke

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread T Elcor
- Original Message - From: Lionel Trésaugues > I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my > computer running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions > (such as Mint LMDE, XFCE or MATE edition). Switching from XFCE to MATE > doesn't lead to any improvement

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 20:01 -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:13:40PM +0100, Martin Smith wrote: > > A minimum refresh rate of 72Hz is recommended (same as average human > > heart rate) to > > minimize optical discomfort that you seem to be suffering. Less than > > that the scree

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-18 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/18/2012 5:13 PM, Martin Smith wrote: On 18/09/2012 22:52, Lisi wrote: Hi, Lionel, On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:31:21 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my computer running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions (such as Mi

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-18 Thread lee
Lionel Trésaugues writes: > My eyes start to suffer and soon, I can feel that an headache is coming. > > I don't have this feeling at all when I am running either Ubuntu or > any Ubuntu-based distribution (Mint XFCE or Cinnamon edition). > > I tried to adjust the fonts using all the different com

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-18 Thread Doug
On 9/18/2012 8:01 PM, Rob Owens wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:13:40PM +0100, Martin Smith wrote: A minimum refresh rate of 72Hz is recommended (same as average human heart rate) to minimize optical discomfort that you seem to be suffering. Less than that the screen will often jump about and

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-18 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:13:40PM +0100, Martin Smith wrote: > A minimum refresh rate of 72Hz is recommended (same as average human > heart rate) to > minimize optical discomfort that you seem to be suffering. Less than > that the screen will > often jump about and make it difficult to see properl

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-18 Thread Martin Smith
On 18/09/2012 22:52, Lisi wrote: Hi, Lionel, On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:31:21 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my computer running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions (such as Mint LMDE, XFCE or MATE edition). Switching f

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-18 Thread Lisi
Hi, Lionel, On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:31:21 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my > computer running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions > (such as Mint LMDE, XFCE or MATE edition). Switching from XFCE to MATE > doesn't lea

Re: Display settings issue

2012-09-04 Thread Bilal mk
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > [Please don't top post. Reformatted] > > On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 01:25:27PM +0530, Bilal mk wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Andrei POPESCU < > andreimpope...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > Please also attach your /etc/X11/xorg.conf a

Re: Display settings issue

2012-09-04 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please don't top post. Reformatted] On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 01:25:27PM +0530, Bilal mk wrote: > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Andrei POPESCU > wrote: > > > Please also attach your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and any file under > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ (if any of exists). > > > > > > > See my xrandr

Re: Display settings issue

2012-09-04 Thread Bilal mk
I could not see any xorg.conf file under /etc/X11/ $ ls app-defaults rgb.txt Xreset Xsession.d default-display-manager X Xreset.d Xsession.options fluxbox xinit Xresources XvMCConfig fonts xkb Xsession Xwrapper.config $ find . -type f -name xorg.conf On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Andrei POP

Re: Display settings issue

2012-09-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 04 sep 12, 10:47:55, Bilal mk wrote: > Hello, > > I have attached the full /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > Thanks for the reply > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Andrei POPESCU > wrote: > > > On Lu, 03 sep 12, 19:29:52, Bilal mk wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Sometime my monitor display does

Re: Display settings issue

2012-09-03 Thread Bilal mk
Hello, I have attached the full /var/log/Xorg.0.log Thanks for the reply On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 03 sep 12, 19:29:52, Bilal mk wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Sometime my monitor display does not detected. If it detected not stored > > my configuration permanen

Re: Display settings issue

2012-09-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 03 sep 12, 19:29:52, Bilal mk wrote: > Hello, > > Sometime my monitor display does not detected. If it detected not stored > my configuration permanently .It reset after reboot or logoff. > > > See my xrandr output. This will change every time Please attach your full /var/log/Xorg.0.log

RE: Display Resolution (SOLVED)

2012-08-22 Thread Nelson Green
issue separately. Thanks to all who took time to assist. Nelson > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Display Resolution > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:58:10 +0200 > > Nelson, it looks like your reply did not reach the list, possibly > because it's over 100 kB in

Re: Display Resolution

2012-08-04 Thread Sven Joachim
Nelson, it looks like your reply did not reach the list, possibly because it's over 100 kB in size. Please configure your mailer to send plain text _only_ to avoid that. On 2012-08-04 16:39 +0200, Nelson Green wrote: >> > The nouveau version in squeeze does not support these cards, they should >

RE: Display Resolution

2012-08-03 Thread Nelson Green
> The nouveau version in squeeze does not support these cards, they should > work in wheezy though. > > > I'm reluctant to suggest this, > > but you probably need the nvidia driver (package nvidia-glx in section > > non-free) to get full support for your cards. > > Let's hope that security is

Re: Display Resolution

2012-08-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Aug 2012 at 07:05:06 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 02 aug 12, 23:48:52, Brian wrote: > > > > Before he gets into that, it could be worth checking with > > > >dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video > > > > that the nouveau package is installed. > > Unless I'm mistaken, his Xorg

Re: Display Resolution

2012-08-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 02 aug 12, 23:48:52, Brian wrote: > > Before he gets into that, it could be worth checking with > >dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video > > that the nouveau package is installed. Unless I'm mistaken, his Xorg.0.log indicates nouveau is already installed. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offto

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