Re: confused about available 32bit kernels in Trixie

2024-10-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> # dpkg-query -l | grep linux-image This doesn't show the state of the archive/available packages. You can use apt-cache to see what versions are available for the version of Debian you have on your system / which mirrors you have I find https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/linux useful, too. It show

Re: confused about available 32bit kernels in Trixie

2024-10-17 Thread didier gaumet
Le 17/10/2024 à 00:55, Felix Miata a écrit : # apt-mark showhold # grep ^deb /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ trixie main non-free non-free-firmware contrib deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org trixie main non-free deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb trixie dep

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-10-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 18 sep 19, 12:20:43, Gene Heskett wrote: > > It is, and the makers lie a lot, taking advantage of the buffering to get > thier 100 MBs rating for small writes. For gigabyte transfers I often > see sub 20 MB/S toward the end. But you may want to steer clear of the > 64GB+ cards, exfat is

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-19 Thread ghe
On 9/17/19 4:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > I'd luv to give it a try, since I've never tried it, but unpacking the > NOOBS to an sd card seems to be a secret, so what linux command will > unpack the .zip and put it on the card? Attached is the instruction file I wrote for myself because the proce

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 19 September 2019 03:59:24 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 21:19:45) > > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 12:58:25 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 18:20:43) > > > > > > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:36:41 John Hasler wrote

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 21:19:45) > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 12:58:25 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 18:20:43) > > > > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:36:41 John Hasler wrote: > > > > Jonas writes: > > > > > Please demonstrate just one single exam

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-19 Thread Joe
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 21:39:23 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Joe writes: > > What would be a real pain is actually accessing HDMI signals while > > the thing is running. It's no good just looking into a connector, > > it needs to see something hanging on the end before it will power > > up and activat

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 22:39:23 John Hasler wrote: > Joe writes: > > What would be a real pain is actually accessing HDMI signals while > > the thing is running. It's no good just looking into a connector, it > > needs to see something hanging on the end before it will power up > > and act

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread John Hasler
Joe writes: > What would be a real pain is actually accessing HDMI signals while the > thing is running. It's no good just looking into a connector, it needs > to see something hanging on the end before it will power up and > activate. Well of course he'd have to build a breakout box. Trickier th

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 17:49:49 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > 2 possible differences. Its not powered correctly when powered from > > gpio pin 6=gnd, and 2=5.11 volts. A pi3b has been running that way > > for 2+ years and the gpio is said to be 100% pi3b compatible.  Argue > >

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > 2 possible differences. Its not powered correctly when powered from gpio > pin 6=gnd, and 2=5.11 volts. A pi3b has been running that way for 2+ > years and the gpio is said to be 100% pi3b compatible.  Argue with me on > that, this rp-4 came with no docs. Yes but we are alre

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 16:57:14 Thomas D Dial wrote: > On Wed, 2019-09-18 at 09:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 07:46:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > > >

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 16:09:48 Joe wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:20:22 -0500 > > John Hasler wrote: > > Your scope could show you eye patterns but that's probably of little > > use. You need to look at all three data channels and the clock > > (these are differential so you need eight

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Wed, 2019-09-18 at 09:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 07:46:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > > > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote: >

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Joe
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:20:22 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Your scope could show you eye patterns but that's probably of little > use. You need to look at all three data channels and the clock (these > are differential so you need eight inputs) and trigger on patterns. > otherwise all you will lear

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 12:58:25 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 18:20:43) > > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:36:41 John Hasler wrote: > > > Jonas writes: > > > > Please demonstrate just one single example of dd being faster > > > > than cp to transfer a full

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 18:20:43) > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:36:41 John Hasler wrote: > > > Jonas writes: > > > Please demonstrate just one single example of dd being faster than > > > cp to transfer a full raw image to a raw device! > > > > On modern systems you would probably

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:36:41 John Hasler wrote: > Jonas writes: > > Please demonstrate just one single example of dd being faster than > > cp to transfer a full raw image to a raw device! > > On modern systems you would probably need to be doing terabyte > transfers between disks on the

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:20:22 John Hasler wrote: > Your scope could show you eye patterns but that's probably of little > use. You need to look at all three data channels and the clock (these > are differential so you need eight inputs) and trigger on patterns. > otherwise all you will

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting John Hasler (2019-09-18 17:36:41) > Jonas writes: > > Please demonstrate just one single example of dd being faster than > > cp to transfer a full raw image to a raw device! > > On modern systems you would probably need to be doing terabyte > transfers between disks on the same machine.

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread John Hasler
Jonas writes: > Please demonstrate just one single example of dd being faster than cp > to transfer a full raw image to a raw device! On modern systems you would probably need to be doing terabyte transfers between disks on the same machine. Back in the days when a megabyte was a lot dd was *much

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread John Hasler
Your scope could show you eye patterns but that's probably of little use. You need to look at all three data channels and the clock (these are differential so you need eight inputs) and trigger on patterns. otherwise all you will learn is that the interface is clocking. -- John Hasler jhas...@ne

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 09:48:24 John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > Does anyone have some typical scope waveforms pix that would show > > what a working hdmi socket has for signals? > > All digital. You need a logic analyzer. I could have had one that > would do the job for you at the

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 08:38:11AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Jonas writes: > > Essentiall you want to copy all raw content onto the raw device. > > > This works too (and not only with specially crafted zip files): > > > $ unzip foo.zip > > $ su -c "cp image-unpacked-from-foo-zip /dev/sd_" >

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting John Hasler (2019-09-18 15:38:11) > Jonas writes: > > Essentiall you want to copy all raw content onto the raw device. > > > This works too (and not only with specially crafted zip files): > > > $ unzip foo.zip > > $ su -c "cp image-unpacked-from-foo-zip /dev/sd_" > > I'd add a sync co

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > Does anyone have some typical scope waveforms pix that would show what > a working hdmi socket has for signals? All digital. You need a logic analyzer. I could have had one that would do the job for you at the Stout surplus sale last week for $20 but I decided that I didn't need i

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread John Hasler
Jonas writes: > Essentiall you want to copy all raw content onto the raw device. > This works too (and not only with specially crafted zip files): > $ unzip foo.zip > $ su -c "cp image-unpacked-from-foo-zip /dev/sd_" I'd add a sync command to be sure all buffers are flushed. > dd is *not* a b

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 09:27:23AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > And my furniture/carpenter skills mean I have lots of those tools > available too, I build green and green style stuff, but the green & > green joints are carved by cnc milling machines running code I wrote. > Consistent joi

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 08:57:43 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 02:42:21PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 13:46:38) > > > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > > >

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 03:06:06PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: [...] > > > $ unzip foo.zip > > > $ su -c "cp image-unpacked-from-foo-zip /dev/sd_" > > > > Also spelt "zcat foo.zip > /dev/sd_" for those who don't want to leave > > a file around they have to delete later. > > ...for speci

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 08:51:31 David wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 21:46, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Does anyone have some typical scope waveforms pix that would show > > what a working hdmi socket has for signals? > > There are no analog signals on the HDMI connector. Only several pairs

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 08:42:21 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 13:46:38) > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > > > > > wrote: > > > > what linux command will unpack the .zip and put it on t

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread David
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 22:57, wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 02:42:21PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > $ unzip foo.zip > > $ su -c "cp image-unpacked-from-foo-zip /dev/sd_" > > Also spelt "zcat foo.zip > /dev/sd_" for those who don't want to > leave a file around they have to delete lat

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting to...@tuxteam.de (2019-09-18 14:57:43) > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 02:42:21PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 13:46:38) > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > > > wrote: > > > > > wh

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 07:46:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote: > > > > On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > And that res

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 02:42:21PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 13:46:38) > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > > wrote: > > > > what linux command will unpack the .zip and put it on the car

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread David
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 21:46, Gene Heskett wrote: > Does anyone have some typical scope waveforms pix that would show what a > working hdmi socket has for signals? There are no analog signals on the HDMI connector. Only several pairs of conductors for different clocked serial data. Also, if the

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 13:46:38) > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > wrote: > > > what linux command will unpack the .zip and put it on the card? [...] > > 3) write the SD card > > (replace my /dev/sd_ with your SD ca

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote: > > > On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > And that results in exactly the same effect, partitiuon 1 is an > > > > iso9660 image

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread David
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote: > > On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > And that results in exactly the same effect, partitiuon 1 is an > > > iso9660 image, and I don't believe the rpi-3b supports that for a > > > boo

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread John Hasler
Thomas Schmitt writes: > I get the impression that uboot is a usual firmware and bootloader, > but that there are also mechanisms which rather remind me of the ROM > of my VIC-20. On boards like this UBoot is usually stored in onboard memory and pretty much is the "BIOS" and the bootloader as well

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote: > On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And that results in exactly the same effect, partitiuon 1 is an > > iso9660 image, and I don't believe the rpi-3b supports that for a > > boot medium. dos/fat32 only I believe. Obviously I got those ima

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 14:04:30 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > I once wrote the "debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso" to an u-sd card, > > which booted and did a net-install on an rpi-3b [...] > > /dev/sde1 /media/sde1 iso9660 ro,relatime 0 0 > > /dev/sde2 /media/sde2 vf

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 13:48:35 John Hasler wrote: > Looks like you copied the file to the first partition rather than > writing the image to the raw device (I've made that mistake > myself). What command did you use? sudo dd if=debian-10.1.0-armhf-netinst.iso bs=4096 of=/dev/sde The /dev/

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread ghe
On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > And that results in exactly the same effect, partitiuon 1 is an iso9660 > image, and I don't believe the rpi-3b supports that for a boot medium. > dos/fat32 only I believe. Obviously I got those images from the wrong > place in the debian file system.

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > I once wrote the "debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso" to an u-sd card, > which booted and did a net-install on an rpi-3b [...] > /dev/sde1 /media/sde1 iso9660 ro,relatime 0 0 > /dev/sde2 /media/sde2 vfat > rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=ascii,shortn

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread John Hasler
Looks like you copied the file to the first partition rather than writing the image to the raw device (I've made that mistake myself). What command did you use? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 12:45:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings to all debian puzzle solvers incorporated; > > I once wrote the "debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso" to an u-sd card, > which booted and did a net-install on an rpi-3b but my user software, > linuxcnc was built for armhf and would

Re: Confused by Amanda

2018-09-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 September 2018 01:24:35 Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 11:46:44AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 02 September 2018 06:27:01 Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Amanda is not good for the situation you describe. > > > > No its not ideal in some cases,, which is why I wrot

Re: Confused by Amanda

2018-09-02 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 11:46:44AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 02 September 2018 06:27:01 Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Amanda is not good for the situation you describe. > > No its not ideal in some cases,, which is why I wrote a wrapper script > for the make a backup portions of amanda. W

Re: Confused by Amanda

2018-09-02 Thread Jose M Calhariz
On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 06:27:01AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 04:09:22PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > I recently messed up some files and decided to resort to the backup to > > recover them. I was able to do so, but the process left me wondering if > > I would really be

Re: Confused by Amanda

2018-09-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 02 September 2018 06:27:01 Dan Ritter wrote: > On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 04:09:22PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > I recently messed up some files and decided to resort to the backup > > to recover them. I was able to do so, but the process left me > > wondering if I would really be in a

Re: Confused by Amanda

2018-09-02 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 04:09:22PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > I recently messed up some files and decided to resort to the backup to > recover them. I was able to do so, but the process left me wondering if > I would really be in a position to do so in all cases. For example, > Amanda configu

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-02-02 Thread Brian
On Sun 02 Feb 2014 at 15:22:44 -0500, Tom H wrote: > You hadn't specified "from squeeze to qheezy" and you were therefore > implying that it was a general approach. In my own mind I thought I was responding to the previous post: At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my appro

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-02-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Brian wrote: > On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 12:52:05 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian wrote: >>> On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach would b

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 25 ian 14, 15:25:18, Brian wrote: > On Sat 25 Jan 2014 at 20:51:46 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > I think we are doing our best avoid complications but the canonical > > place for the recommended way is the Release Notes. Nothing else. > > > > So as a baseline, process you described is fi

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-25 Thread Brian
On Sat 25 Jan 2014 at 20:51:46 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:25:01AM +, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 11:54:12 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > The recommended way is specific to each release and thoroughly > > > documented in the Release Notes

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-25 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:25:01AM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 11:54:12 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > The recommended way is specific to each release and thoroughly > > documented in the Release Notes. > > Which is where I got what I wrote from: I bet it was only for t

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Brad Alexander
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Robin wrote: > Were those users using Debian stable? I use Sid so I usually > dist-upgrade as long it isn't going obviously affect my system, i.e > removing applications I want to keep. > My process on sid is apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-up

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 12:52:05 -0500, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > >> > >> At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach > >> would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instance

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: >> >> At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach >> would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of >> "squeeze" with "wheezy", and then running >> >> # apt-

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 11:54:12 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > The recommended way is specific to each release and thoroughly > documented in the Release Notes. Which is where I got what I wrote from: If the system being upgraded provides critical services for your users or the network[2], y

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 23 ian 14, 23:47:11, Brian wrote: > On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > > At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach > > would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of > > "squeeze" with "wheezy", and then running > > > > # apt-

Re: Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Clive Standbridge
> At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach would > be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of "squeeze" with > "wheezy", and then running > > # apt-get update > # apt-get dist-upgrade It's not always that straightforward for upgrades between major releases. You

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Brian
On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach > would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of > "squeeze" with "wheezy", and then running > > # apt-get update > # apt-get dist-upgrade > > That as far as

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Bob Bernstein
Thanks to all who have chimed in! On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Klaus wrote: When for instance a new version of an already installed package depends on a previously not installed library, then "apt-get update" cannot update this pkg. You need "dist-upgrade" for that job. Aha. Thx for the RTFM; I had

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Jochen Spieker
Bob Bernstein: > > But the thread currently underway about dist-upgrade suggests that > users are running it rather routinely, and not at all necessarily to > move from one release to the next. > > Can someone please point out what I am missing? What you are doing is generally the safe way. apt-

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Klaus
On 23/01/14 20:51, Bob Bernstein wrote: A thread about dist-upgrade has me confused. In my experience I have only ever run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' when I wanted to move from one release to the next, say, from squeeze to wheezy. Similarly, if I wanted to insure I had the latest versions of packag

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Robin
On 23 January 2014 20:51, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > A thread about dist-upgrade has me confused. In my experience I have only > ever run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' when I wanted to move from one release to > the next, say, from squeeze to wheezy. > > Similarly, if I wanted to insure I had the latest ve

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Shane Johnson
Bob, It was my understanding that dist-upgrade was only needed to resolve issues that couldn't be resolved by upgrade. I have moved from wheezy to jessie with a simple aptitude update and didn't need the dist-upgrade. If this is incorrect I would love to know cause I ran into some issues with my

Re: Confused about bug 640823

2011-12-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:00:52 +, David Goodenough wrote: > In this bug it says:- > > Found in versions pygobject/2.90.3-1, pygobject/2.90.3-2 > Fixed in version 1.30.0-1 The mentioned bug was merged with 640467. *** Tags: experimental, fixed-upstream *** > This is very confusing. Does thi

Re: confused by bug

2010-03-02 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 07:35:10PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > Contrast this with the "stable" version, which has migrated from > > stable-proposed-updates to stable. > > Sorted. After I realised you were talking about texlive-bin, while > texlive-latex-base is built from texlive-base, I read

Re: confused by bug

2010-03-01 Thread Richard Hector
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 21:30 -0600, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 04:17:11PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've been caught by (closed) bug #531595 > > ( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=531595 ) > > > > It says it's closed, and fixed - and was i

Re: confused by bug

2010-03-01 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 05:48:49PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > You should be able to grab the fixed package from the > > oldstable-proposed-updates section of the archive. > > Thanks Kumar. > > I added: > deb http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian oldstable-proposed-updates main > to my sources.lis

Re: confused by bug

2010-03-01 Thread Richard Hector
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 21:30 -0600, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > The bug has been fixed in 2005.dfsg.2-13, which was uploaded to > oldstable-proposed-updates. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to have > made it's way into oldstable, as is revealed here: > > [ku...@bluemoon ~] rmadison texlive-bin > texli

Re: confused by bug

2010-03-01 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 04:17:11PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been caught by (closed) bug #531595 > ( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=531595 ) > > It says it's closed, and fixed - and was important to fix in etch, since > that's where the problem is/was. > >

Re: Confused about lenny, KDE4 and debian-multimedia.org

2009-08-25 Thread SteveM
On Tuesday 25 August 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > KDE4 libs *are* available in stable (lenny), but without specific error > messages (preferably from aptitude or apt-get) it's impossible to help > further. And your sources.list might help too ;) Yes, the sources.list did help. It read sid, not

Re: Confused about lenny, KDE4 and debian-multimedia.org

2009-08-25 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,24.Aug.09, 20:34:00, Steve wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running lenny (kde3) using several of Christian Marillat's multimedia > packages. Installing k9copy fails due to unmet lib dependencies. They > appear to be kde4 libs yet are clearly in the stable branch. I'm use to > waiting on sid

Re: Confused about lenny, KDE4 and debian-multimedia.org

2009-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-24 22:34, Steve wrote: Hello, I'm running lenny (kde3) using several of Christian Marillat's multimedia packages. Installing k9copy fails due to unmet lib dependencies. They appear to be kde4 libs yet are clearly in the stable branch. I'm use to waiting on sid repos to stabiliz

Re: Confused about netinst

2009-05-09 Thread consultores1
On May 9, 2009 12:45:30 pm Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat,09.May.09, 17:59:09, Muzer wrote: > > I'm a little confused about the netinst CD, on whether or not it > > supports WiFi cards. Your site says it doesn't, yet I've seen lots of > > forums and bug reports in which people seem to install it co

Re: Confused about netinst

2009-05-09 Thread Daryl Styrk
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 09:02:59PM +0100, Muzer wrote: > Daryl Styrk wrote: >> On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 10:45:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> >> >> That has been my experience with the installer and a Intel Corporation >> PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN. You will run into a section asking you i

Re: Confused about netinst

2009-05-09 Thread Daryl Styrk
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 10:45:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Could you please post the link? > > From my experience the installer can detect wifi cards (it will need > firmware for many of them), but can't use WPA/WPA2 to connect (only > WEP). Hope I'm not mistaken, it's been a while. >

Re: Confused about netinst

2009-05-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,09.May.09, 17:59:09, Muzer wrote: > I'm a little confused about the netinst CD, on whether or not it > supports WiFi cards. Your site says it doesn't, yet I've seen lots of > forums and bug reports in which people seem to install it correctly. Can > someone claify this? Thanks! Muzer.

Re: confused about gcc-4.3 version in my system

2009-03-24 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-03-24 13:03 +0100, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 08:37:47AM -0700, shaul Karl wrote: >> >> dpkg (dpkg -l gcc-4.3) reports that 4.3.3-3 is installed. >> The latest entry in /var/log/apt/term reports 4:4.3.3-2 were set up. >

Re: confused about gcc-4.3 version in my system

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 03:56:22PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > Debian has a sort of rule about ABIs. There can be two named "versions > for the same package. For example, a kernel might be 2.6.xx-1 and > 2.6.xx-6 at the same time, a little confusing. The -1 is the ABI, and > if the ABI cha

Re: confused about gcc-4.3 version in my system

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 08:37:47AM -0700, shaul Karl wrote: > > dpkg (dpkg -l gcc-4.3) reports that 4.3.3-3 is installed. > The latest entry in /var/log/apt/term reports 4:4.3.3-2 were set up. ^^ typo? > To ad

Re: confused about gcc-4.3 version in my system

2009-03-18 Thread Mark Allums
shaul Karl wrote: dpkg (dpkg -l gcc-4.3) reports that 4.3.3-3 is installed. The latest entry in /var/log/apt/term reports 4:4.3.3-2 was set up. Which version do I have? To add to my confusion, I seem to remember that the head of /usr/share/doc/gcc-4.3/changelog.Debian.gz pointed to 4.3.3-3 before

Re: confused about web servers

2008-02-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 08:48:50AM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: > Allan Wind wrote: >> On 2008-02-14T19:53:13-0500, Steve Kleene wrote: >>> Can someone here explain why the choice of web server determines whether the >>> movie plays or not? I would have thought that the web server would just >

Re: confused about web servers

2008-02-15 Thread Joe
Dave Sherohman wrote: Some years ago, I was working on a web-based voicemail/telephony interface and discovered that the then-current version of MSIE would look at the last portion of retrieved URLs and, if they looked like a recognized file extension, it would completely ignore Content-Type and

Re: confused about web servers

2008-02-15 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 08:21:01PM -0500, Allan Wind wrote: > On 2008-02-14T19:53:13-0500, Steve Kleene wrote: > > Can someone here explain why the choice of web server determines whether the > > movie plays or not? I would have thought that the web server would just > > copy > > the WMV file to

Re: confused about web servers

2008-02-14 Thread Raj Kiran Grandhi
Allan Wind wrote: On 2008-02-14T19:53:13-0500, Steve Kleene wrote: Can someone here explain why the choice of web server determines whether the movie plays or not? I would have thought that the web server would just copy the WMV file to the browser, which would then decide whether to play it or

Re: confused about web servers

2008-02-14 Thread Steve Kleene
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:53:13 -0500, I wrote: > Can someone here explain why the choice of web server determines whether the > movie plays or not? I would have thought that the web server would just copy > the WMV file to the browser, which would then decide whether to play it or > display it as te

Re: confused about web servers

2008-02-14 Thread Allan Wind
On 2008-02-14T19:53:13-0500, Steve Kleene wrote: > Can someone here explain why the choice of web server determines whether the > movie plays or not? I would have thought that the web server would just copy > the WMV file to the browser, which would then decide whether to play it or > display it a

Re: confused about web servers

2008-02-14 Thread Steve Kemp
On Thu Feb 14, 2008 at 19:53:13 -0500, Steve Kleene wrote: > Can someone here explain why the choice of web server determines whether the > movie plays or not? I would have thought that the web server would just copy > the WMV file to the browser, which would then decide whether to play it or > d

Re: Confused about kernel source location

2007-08-17 Thread Frank McCormick
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:11:08 +0200 Marcus Blumhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > First of all, please CC me when replying, since I am not subscribed to > this list. > > > [...] > > And as I rarely decompress files, I have forgotten the command to > > decompress tar/bz2 files . > > [...]

Re: Confused about kernel source location

2007-08-16 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
Hi, First of all, please CC me when replying, since I am not subscribed to this list. > [...] > And as I rarely decompress files, I have forgotten the command to > decompress tar/bz2 files . > [...] I just wanted to add my ¢2. You may want to evaluate the package named "unp" and you will never

Re: Confused about kernel source location

2007-08-15 Thread Wayne Topa
Ed Jabbour([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Tuesday 14 August 2007 21:27, Wayne Topa wrote: > > >Anybody? Where do people dump their kernel source anyway??? > > > > I have always put my kernels in /usr/src. First time I've _ever_ > > heard of " DO NOT USE THE /usr/src area".

Re: Confused about kernel source location

2007-08-15 Thread Ed Jabbour
On Tuesday 14 August 2007 21:27, Wayne Topa wrote: > >Anybody? Where do people dump their kernel source anyway??? > > I have always put my kernels in /usr/src. First time I've _ever_ > heard of " DO NOT USE THE /usr/src area". Just what readme did you > see _that_ in? From linux-source-2.6.1

Re: Confused about kernel source location

2007-08-15 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:36:52 +0900 Takehiko Abe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank McCormick wrote: > > >>> Well, I always store there all the sources related with my > >>> kernel, modules, etc... I haven't get any problem... BTW, > >>> remember doing the symlink to /usr/src/linux from your >

Re: Confused about kernel source location

2007-08-14 Thread Orestes Leal
El Mar, 14 de Agosto de 2007, 8:29 pm, Frank McCormick escribió: > >> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:28:41 -0400 >> Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Frank McCormick wrote: >> > > I downloaded and installed the source for the current kernel, >> > > which aptitude dumped into /usr

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