On Wednesday 18 September 2019 16:57:14 Thomas D Dial wrote:

> On Wed, 2019-09-18 at 09:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 07:46:38 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett
> > > > <ghesk...@shentel.net>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote:
> > > > > > On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > > > And that results in exactly the same effect, partitiuon 1
> > > > > > > is an iso9660 image, and I don't believe the rpi-3b
> > > > > > > supports
> >
> > that
> >
> > > > > > > for a boot medium. dos/fat32 only I believe. Obviously I
> > > > > > > got those images from the wrong place in the debian file
> >
> > system.
> >
> > > > > > > So I need to remove these, but where do I get the correct
> > > > > > > versions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Use the damn NOOBS and quit fighting with your Pi(s)! NOOBS
> > > > > > takes a while, and it doesn't install things the way you
> > > > > > want them to be, but it does work -- you end up looking at a
> >
> > working
> >
> > > > > > Buster desktop. No confusion or cardio stress involved.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are a lot of recipes on the web to make things all
> >
> > better.
> >
> > > > > > And 'rm' works pretty well, too.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd luv to give it a try, since I've never tried it, but
> >
> > unpacking
> >
> > > > > the NOOBS to an sd card seems to be a secret, so what linux
> > > > > command will unpack the .zip and put it on the card?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Gene,
> > > >
> > > > I suggest a first step is just get your Pi 4 running
> > > > the simplest way possible. Just to see it working first
> > > > before starting to customising it in any way.
> > > >
> > > > You don't need NOOBS, just Raspbian.
> > > > Note: Raspbian is not Debian.
> > > >
> > > > Just do this:
> > > >
> > > > 1) get the zipped image
> > > > $ curl -L -o raspbian_latest.zip
> > > > downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian_latest
> > > >
> > > > 2) verify the download
> > > > $ sha256sum raspbian_latest.zip
> > > > 6a1a5f20329e580d5161a0255b3d4163db6f56c3997e1c3b36bdd51140bd768e
> > > >
> > > > 3) write the SD card
> > > > (replace my /dev/sd_ with your SD card device,
> > > > without any partition number):
> > > >
> > > > # unzip -p raspbian_latest.zip | dd bs=4M of=/dev/sd_
> > > > status=progress conv=fsync
> > >
> > > This last is what I was looking for, thank you, and I'll give it
> > > all
> >
> > a
> >
> > > shot later today. In fact, card is written.
> > >
> > > > and that will produce a SD card that
> > > > will boot a Raspberry Pi 4 hardware into a Raspbian desktop.
> > >
> > > If I can get video out of it, I am about convinced that the only
> > > micro-hdmi adapter I have is a $16 dud I got from Wallmart.
> > >
> > > Banggood says 2 more adapters and the big, whole top heat sink
> > > won't be here till around the 3rd.
> > >
> > > So if this doesn't work, I'll just shelve it till then.  Maybe
> > > forever, I'm about burned out on this. I've written several cards,
> > > without ever seeing a single byte of video on a monitor that works
> > > fine when driven by a pi-3b.
> > >
> > > 2 possible differences. Its not powered correctly when powered
> > > from gpio pin 6=gnd, and 2=5.11 volts. A pi3b has been running
> > > that way
> >
> > for
> >
> > > 2+ years and the gpio is said to be 100% pi3b compatible.  Argue
> >
> > with
> >
> > > me on that, this rp-4 came with no docs.
> > >
> > > I do not have a psu with an OTG connector.  Or this $16 wallmart
> > > adapter is duff.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have some typical scope waveforms pix that would show
> >
> > what
> >
> > > a working hdmi socket has for signals?
> > >
> > > Now its morning locally, time go see about some caffiene for me
> > > and the missus. Thanks all.
> >
> > Now I have a puzzle, that rpi-4 is powered and is on my local net,
> > was at
> > a duplicate address because the card was at one time in the rpi-3,
> > but a
> > login from here didn't look like I was looking at the same machine,
> > so
> > from here I went trolling thru proc and discovered it was an
> > rpi-4!!!
> >
> > So I changed its ipv4 address, hostname, domainname, added itself at
> > its
> > new address to its /etc/hosts file and rebooted it. Added it to my
> > hosts
> > file and ssh -Y pi@rpi4, fixed my known_hosts file, and I am now
> > logged
> > into it at its new address.  A cat /etc/issue says its running a
> > raspbian 9 (stretch).
> >
> > And there's still no video on the monitor its feeding. So I am
> > encouraged, but where the heck is the video?
>
> The instructions that came with mine insisted that the HDMI cable be
> attached using the HDMI0 port, on the left looking at them with the
> board top up. The IDs are stenciled on the top of the board but the
> letters are about 1/32" high.
>
Which is how I have it.

> If that's the way you have it, I would suspect a defective cable or
> rpi board.

Humm, cable was swapped once. But I'll try a different one tomorrow. 
Unless I feel extra froggy after dinner. I am caretaker for the wife, 
and chief cook and bottle washer here too.  Keeps me out of the bars. :)
>
Thanks, Tom Dial

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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