Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 21:19:45)
> On Wednesday 18 September 2019 12:58:25 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> 
> > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 18:20:43)
> >
> > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:36:41 John Hasler wrote:
> > > > Jonas writes:
> > > > > Please demonstrate just one single example of dd being faster 
> > > > > than cp to transfer a full raw image to a raw device!
> > > >
> > > > On modern systems you would probably need to be doing terabyte 
> > > > transfers between disks on the same machine.  Back in the days 
> > > > when a megabyte was a lot dd was *much* faster.
> > > >
> > > > On an SD card I think that the write speed of the card is 
> > > > probably the limiting factor.
> > >
> > > It is, and the makers lie a lot, taking advantage of the buffering 
> > > to get thier 100 MBs rating for small writes. For gigabyte 
> > > transfers I often see sub 20 MB/S toward the end. But you may want 
> > > to steer clear of the 64GB+ cards, exfat is creeping into the sdhc 
> > > arena, and I either have a defective NEW PNY 64GB, or this stretch 
> > > install can't touch it because its exfat.  I bought 2 recently, 
> > > same exact part number, slightly different card gfx, the 85 meg 
> > > rated one doesn't mention exfat, works, the 100 MB/S rated one 
> > > mentions exfat and is untouchable.
> >
> > Regarding quality of SD cards, I trust advices from Thomas Kaiser.
> >
> > Here's his advice on which brands to trust:
> > > Only a few vendors on this planet run NAND flash memory fabs, only 
> > > a few companies produce flash memory controllers and have the 
> > > necessary know-how in house. And only a few combine their own NAND 
> > > flash with their own controllers to their own retail products. 
> > > That's the simple reason why at least I only buy SD cards from 
> > > these 4 brands: Samsung, SanDisk, Toshiba, Transcend
> >
> > Above quote is from 
> > https://forum.armbian.com/topic/954-sd-card-performance/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-49811
> >  
> > which is linked from front page intro to that thread - as part of 
> > this more general advice + warning not to waste time reading the 
> > whole
> >
> > thread:
> > > Warning: This whole thread is only about historical information 
> > > now since it's 2018 and we can buy inexpensive and great 
> > > performing A1 rated SD cards in the meantime. Buying anything else 
> > > is a mistake so directly jump to the end of the thread for 
> > > performance numbers and recommendations.
> >
> > On a related note, here's Kaiser's more detailed notes on A1/A2 
> > rating: 
> > https://github.com/ThomasKaiser/Knowledge/blob/master/articles/A1_and_A2_rated_SD_cards.md
> >
> That also seems to be somewhat dated.  And rather Sandisk promoting.

No, quotes further up promotes brands closest to factories, and the 
article closes above promotes A1/A2 labeling which is brand-agnostic 
(yes, it proves its point by comparing cards from a single brand but 
that's besides the point).

> So I bought another to see if they were still as bad as a year ago.

Which brand and model? Did it have either "A1" or "A2" printed on it?

What are the comparable results from same tests? They are linked from 
the article: 
https://github.com/ThomasKaiser/sbc-bench/blob/master/sd-card-bench.sh


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