Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-28 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Patrick Bartek: > > > > I don't need lots of storage or big attachment sizes (or any > > attachments really), but I do need IMAP, so I can use Claws. It must be > > reasonably secure and dependable, i.e, good "up" times. > > I didn't read

death of what? (Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service)

2014-04-28 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > [...] > I suspect the end of mailing lists is near :(. More and more people run > into issues when using mailing lists. The bad, without mailing lists > Linux will die! (Borrowing from an author named Clemens who used to impress me a lot m

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-27 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 13:57:38 +0100 Nuno Magalhães wrote: > On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Celejar wrote: > > Aptoide, IIUC, just provides a common > > interface that allows us to use different app markets. [I haven't yet > > played with it, though.] > > >>From their website: "Aptoide is the l

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-27 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Celejar wrote: > Aptoide, IIUC, just provides a common > interface that allows us to use different app markets. [I haven't yet > played with it, though.] >From their website: "Aptoide is the largest independent Android App Store and allows partners to setup and ma

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-26 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 18:01:21 +0100 Nuno Magalhães wrote: > Somehow this thread got slightly OT... > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Richard Hector wrote: [Quoting error - this was me.] > >> I really want to limit myself to f-droid, but they're really pretty > >> lacking. They don't even ha

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-26 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 05:40:19 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 18:12 -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:58:39 -0700 > > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > IMAP was the recommended way to access free Yahoo Mail with an email > > > client. You had to conve

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-26 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Somehow this thread got slightly OT... On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Richard Hector wrote: >> I really want to limit myself to f-droid, but they're really pretty >> lacking. They don't even have an ssh server! Try aptoide (an apt-inspired android market, not an apt fork in the Debian repos).

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-26 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 26 Apr 2014, Richard Hector wrote: > On 24/04/14 04:06, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > I don't know if a Google/gmail account is really _required_ with > > Android phones, but you are strongly advised (and nagged) to set up > > one. As you said, without it, no OS or app updates, no app >

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 24 apr 14, 21:46:40, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Unlikely that people are only subscribed to this list, that's why assume > that many users have at least issues caused by their provider, with some > mailing lists. https://lists.debian.org/stats/debian-user.png Kind regards, Andrei -- http://

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-26 Thread Richard Hector
On 24/04/14 10:13, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:29:39 +1200 > Richard Hector wrote: > >> On 22/04/14 05:25, Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> FYI: You're >>> forced into having a gmail account with an Android phone. >> >> I think I have a gmail account somewhere. I've never associated it with

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-26 Thread Richard Hector
On 24/04/14 04:06, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > I don't know if a Google/gmail account is really _required_ with Android > phones, but you are strongly advised (and nagged) to set up one. As you > said, without it, no OS or app updates, no app downloads, etc. So for > full phone functionality, you

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 23:33 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 10:14 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Jochen Spieker wrote: > > > > > > > > > Patrick Bartek:

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 11:43 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 02:03:44 -0500 > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Hello Stan, > > >I made a simple common sense observation that applies to anyone using a > > Some people (me for one) have over 100 mailing list subscriptions. > Using an ISP pr

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 02:03:44 -0500 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Hello Stan, >I made a simple common sense observation that applies to anyone using a Some people (me for one) have over 100 mailing list subscriptions. Using an ISP provided email address to run that lot is asinine. >One can change a list

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-25 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 4/25/2014 1:02 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:52:13 -0500 > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Hello Stan, > >> You're asking specifically about an account for list mail only in this >> thread. None of these concerns apply. > > Correct me if I'm wrong (I dare you), but I don't think

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 23:33 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 10:14 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Jochen Spieker wrote: > > > > > > > Patrick Bartek: > > > > > > > > > > I don't need lots of storage or bi

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 4/24/2014 12:03 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > >> On 4/19/2014 3:38 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >>> > >>> What with my authentication problems with my Yahoo Mail address on > >>> this list, anyone have p

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 10:14 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Jochen Spieker wrote: > > > > > Patrick Bartek: > > > > > > > > I don't need lots of storage or big attachment sizes (or any > > > > attachments really), but I do need IMA

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:52:13 -0500 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Hello Stan, >You're asking specifically about an account for list mail only in this >thread. None of these concerns apply. Correct me if I'm wrong (I dare you), but I don't think it's your decision whether the concerns apply to Patrick.

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 4/24/2014 12:03 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> On 4/19/2014 3:38 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> >>> What with my authentication problems with my Yahoo Mail address on >>> this list, anyone have personal recommendations for a good, free >>> email servic

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 15:40 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 09:26 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 14:08 +, mailer-dae...@yahoo.com wrote: > > >

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 09:26 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 14:08 +, mailer-dae...@yahoo.com wrote: >>> OK, now this doesn't work anymore :D. However, not only the

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 10:14 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Jochen Spieker wrote: > > > Patrick Bartek: > > > > > > I don't need lots of storage or big attachment sizes (or any > > > attachments really), but I do need IMAP, so I can use Claws. It > > > must be reasonably secu

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Patrick Bartek: > > > > I don't need lots of storage or big attachment sizes (or any > > attachments really), but I do need IMAP, so I can use Claws. It > > must be reasonably secure and dependable, i.e, good "up" times. > > I didn't read the whole t

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 4/19/2014 3:38 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > What with my authentication problems with my Yahoo Mail address on > > this list, anyone have personal recommendations for a good, free > > email service ... to run my lists subcriptions through? > >

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 10:57 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Ralf Mardorf writes: > > Assumed there would be no mailing lists, then it would be the end of > > Linux. > > If the kernel developers feel that they must have mailing-lists they > will see to it that they have mailing-lists. We go round in c

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread John Hasler
Ralf Mardorf writes: > Assumed there would be no mailing lists, then it would be the end of > Linux. If the kernel developers feel that they must have mailing-lists they will see to it that they have mailing-lists. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 09:26 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 14:08 +, mailer-dae...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. > >> > >> : > >> Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 : R

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 14:08 +, mailer-dae...@yahoo.com wrote: > Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. >> >> : >> Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 : Recipient >> address rejected: Mail appeared to be SPAM or f

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 10:04 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > So, if someone needs an account for mail, CardDAV/CalDAV (great for > Android sync!) or little bit of web space: just ask. Hi Jochen, I would like to have both, web pace and an email account, but most important is an email account and web

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 4/19/2014 3:38 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > What with my authentication problems with my Yahoo Mail address on this > list, anyone have personal recommendations for a good, free email > service ... to run my lists subcriptions through? You have Cox broadband. Why aren't you using Cox IMAP?

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Jochen Spieker
Patrick Bartek: > > I don't need lots of storage or big attachment sizes (or any > attachments really), but I do need IMAP, so I can use Claws. It must be > reasonably secure and dependable, i.e, good "up" times. I didn't read the whole thread, but I didn't see anyone stepping up and offering so

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 18:12 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:58:39 -0700 > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > ... > > > IMAP was the recommended way to access free Yahoo Mail with an email > > client. You had to convert to a paid account to get POP access. Don't > > know if that's still t

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:29:39 +1200 Richard Hector wrote: > On 22/04/14 05:25, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > FYI: You're > > forced into having a gmail account with an Android phone. > > I think I have a gmail account somewhere. I've never associated it with > my Android phone though. > > That means

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:58:39 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: ... > IMAP was the recommended way to access free Yahoo Mail with an email > client. You had to convert to a paid account to get POP access. Don't > know if that's still the case. Some accounts seem to get free POP, while others don't.

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:22:49 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: ... > http://www.zoho.com do IMAP & POP/SMTP. Mailbox size is 5GB on a free > account. +1 - I use a zoho account with POP3 via getmail - works fine. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subjec

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:25:41 -0400 Tony Baldwin wrote: > On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:50:14PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Sb, 19 apr 14, 13:38:06, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > > What with my authentication problems with my Yahoo Mail address on this > > > list, anyone have personal reco

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 24 apr 14, 00:32:21, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > Currently it appears that privacy is becoming the new refuge of scoundrels. At least this is what some are trying to make us believe. Kind regards, Andrei P.S. Reply-To: -offtopic -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discuss

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014, Richard Hector wrote: > On 22/04/14 05:25, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > FYI: You're > > forced into having a gmail account with an Android phone. > > I think I have a gmail account somewhere. I've never associated it > with my Android phone though. > > That means of course that

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
smtp130.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2014 14:08:30 + > UTC > Message-ID: <1398262110.859.44.camel@archlinux> > Subject: Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service > From: Ralf Mardorf > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Wed, 23

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/04/14 23:40, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 23 April 2014 14:24:25 Henning Follmann wrote: >> This is also why I do not like gmail, >> yahoo, fb so much. But everybody has to make his/her own decisions. > > Yes, but you have been very rude about those who make a decision which is > differ

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 09:24 -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > Pointless and wrong too. The fact that the ads don't make it to your screen > doesn't mean you are not targeted. > > See the point I am trying to make here: our "free" culture has a very high > social price. The fact that you do not pay

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Henning Follmann
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 02:40:40PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 23 April 2014 14:24:25 Henning Follmann wrote: > > This is also why I do not like gmail, > > yahoo, fb so much. But everybody has to make his/her own decisions. > > Yes, but you have been very rude about those who make a de

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 23 April 2014 14:24:25 Henning Follmann wrote: > This is also why I do not like gmail, > yahoo, fb so much. But everybody has to make his/her own decisions. Yes, but you have been very rude about those who make a decision which is different from yours. Those who disagree with you ar

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Henning Follmann
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 01:56:28PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 23 April 2014 13:22:25 Henning Follmann wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:04:31PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 09:47:24AM -0700, Patrick

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/04/14 22:56, Lisi Reisz wrote:> On Wednesday 23 April 2014 13:22:25 Henning Follmann wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:04:31PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Henning Follmann wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 09:47:24AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Tu

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 23 April 2014 13:56:28 Lisi Reisz wrote: > I don't get any ads. I sometimes do. Sorry. Just not always. But I never see them. I have to make a special effort to do so, and I don't make the effort. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a s

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 23 April 2014 13:22:25 Henning Follmann wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:04:31PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 09:47:24AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Henning Follmann wrote: >

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:04:31PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 09:47:24AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:25:18AM -0700, Patrick B

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 02:11:44PM -0700, Roger Klorese wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Henning Follmann > > wrote: > > E. Wrong. > > You pay with being spied on for marketing purposes. > > > > - > > And to some of us that is an unacceptable cost, and to others, an acceptable >

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:18:49 +0100 Nuno Magalhães wrote: Hello Nuno, >I guess misinformed agreement is the user's problem,not Google's, but Indeed it is. If you're offered the opportunity to read the T&Cs, it's up to the user to do so. If the user blindly accepts the T&Cs, they can't go cryin

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-23 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Roger Klorese wrote: > If I agree to let you watch me 24/7, you 're not spying. People just click agree without reading - otherwise they have no access to the service, so i'm not sure if the argument applies. I guess misinformed agreement is the user's problem,no

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-22 Thread Richard Hector
On 22/04/14 05:25, Patrick Bartek wrote: > FYI: You're > forced into having a gmail account with an Android phone. I think I have a gmail account somewhere. I've never associated it with my Android phone though. That means of course that I don't have access to Google Play or whatever it's called,

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-22 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 09:47:24AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:25:18AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, Xiánwén Chén wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-22 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Doug wrote: > On 04/22/2014 12:47 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > I didn't want all the headaches of Google+ (something I'll NEVER use > > or participate in) just for an email account. > > > >> Free does not exist. There is always a price. > > It was a price I was unwilling

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-22 Thread Roger Klorese
> On Apr 22, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Henning Follmann > wrote: > E. Wrong. > You pay with being spied on for marketing purposes. > > - And to some of us that is an unacceptable cost, and to others, an acceptable process. If I agree to let you watch me 24/7, you 're not spying. -- To UNSUBS

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-22 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 09:47:24AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:25:18AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, Xiánwén Chén wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Patrick, > > > > > > > > Why not just a second Gmai

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-22 Thread Doug
On 04/22/2014 12:47 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: I didn't want all the headaches of Google+ (something I'll NEVER use or participate in) just for an email account. Free does not exist. There is always a price. It was a price I was unwilling to pay. Unfortunately today the majority chooses free

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-22 Thread Ralph Katz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/22/2014 11:51 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> You just need to point it (or another newsreader) at news.gmane.org. > > I was not aware of gmane. Although, the name sounds familiar. I'll > look into

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-22 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140421_1025-0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, Xiánwén Chén wrote: > > > Hi Patrick, > > > > Why not just a second Gmail account for various lists? > > That was the first thing I considered, but didn't want to be a part of > Google+ and all that social networking crap Google

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-22 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:25:18AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, Xiánwén Chén wrote: > > > > > Hi Patrick, > > > > > > Why not just a second Gmail account for various lists? > > > > That was the first thing I considered, but

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-22 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > I'm not answering the question you asked, exactly, but have you > considered using Gmane, and a newsreader? From what I understand > claws mail is also a newsreader so you could continue to use that. > You just need to point it (or an

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi Patrick, I'm not answering the question you asked, exactly, but have you considered using Gmane, and a newsreader? From what I understand claws mail is also a newsreader so you could continue to use that. You just need to point it (or another newsreader) at news.gmane.org. -- Jonathan Dowlan

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-22 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:25:18AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, Xiánwén Chén wrote: > > > Hi Patrick, > > > > Why not just a second Gmail account for various lists? > > That was the first thing I considered, but didn't want to be a part of > Google+ and all that social net

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:47:04 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: Hello Patrick, >That's what Yahoo FAQs said last year. But when I opened my first Ah, I see. I gave up on yahoo and google about a year ago, IIRC. In any event, I wouldn't have been reading their FAQs at that time because, if I hadn't

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-21 Thread Ignazio Palmisano
On 21 April 2014 18:25, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Don't know yet if all gmail accounts will get their mail sent to the > phone or not. (Probably not) But more investigation is needed. I want > to be sure. > > B > Downloading existing and new mail is optional. You can set how many days of mail to

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:58:39 -0700 > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Hello Patrick, > > >IMAP was the recommended way to access free Yahoo Mail with an email > >client. You had to convert to a paid account to get POP access. > >Don't know if that's still the

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, Xiánwén Chén wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > Why not just a second Gmail account for various lists? That was the first thing I considered, but didn't want to be a part of Google+ and all that social networking crap Google pushes on gmail applicants. Also, I have an Android-based p

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-21 Thread Xiánwén Chén
Hi Patrick, Why not just a second Gmail account for various lists? Kind regards, Xianwen

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:58:39 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: Hello Patrick, >IMAP was the recommended way to access free Yahoo Mail with an email >client. You had to convert to a paid account to get POP access. Don't >know if that's still the case. I had a yahoo and gmail accounts, never paid for

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 20 Apr 2014, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 13:38:06 -0700 > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Hello Patrick, > > >I don't need lots of storage or big attachment sizes (or any > >attachments really), but I do need IMAP, so I can use Claws. It > >must be > > You don't need IMAP to us

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 20 Apr 2014, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Patrick Bartek > wrote: > > FYI: If I don't get replies -- because of Yahoo my posts don't get > > mirrored back to me -- I can't know if this got through. > > There ya go :) but i had to fish this out of the gmail spa

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 13:38:06 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: Hello Patrick, >I don't need lots of storage or big attachment sizes (or any >attachments really), but I do need IMAP, so I can use Claws. It must be You don't need IMAP to use Claws. However, if you're set on using IMAP, the following

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-20 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > FYI: If I don't get replies -- because of Yahoo my posts don't get > mirrored back to me -- I can't know if this got through. There ya go :) but i had to fish this out of the gmail spam, it's been wrongly tagging a lot (well 2-3 per day) of

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-20 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:50:14PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 19 apr 14, 13:38:06, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > What with my authentication problems with my Yahoo Mail address on this > > list, anyone have personal recommendations for a good, free email > > service (other than gmail --

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 19 apr 14, 13:38:06, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > What with my authentication problems with my Yahoo Mail address on this > list, anyone have personal recommendations for a good, free email > service (other than gmail -- I don't want the mails getting routed to > my phone) to run my lists subc

Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
What with my authentication problems with my Yahoo Mail address on this list, anyone have personal recommendations for a good, free email service (other than gmail -- I don't want the mails getting routed to my phone) to run my lists subcriptions through? I've been researching and most all that I