On 23/04/14 23:40, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 23 April 2014 14:24:25 Henning Follmann wrote: >> This is also why I do not like gmail, >> yahoo, fb so much. But everybody has to make his/her own decisions. > > Yes, but you have been very rude about those who make a decision which is > different from yours. Those who disagree with you are not necessarily > suckers, they just disagree with you. You choose to be paranoid. That is > your prerogative. But it is mine to be a "sucker" if I so choose, without > being called names. > > Lisi > > Not just rude, ignorant. Righteously ignorant. A dangerous combination. If you used NoScript and AdBlock you wouldn't see Google ads on the web interface - even less if you used IMAP or POP3 instead of the web interface. Gmail users don't have to join Google+. And to lecture others about privacy on a public mailing list....? The best way to guarantee public privacy is to, um, post nothing - unless of course that's not your true agenda.
All business *must* do what? (make a profit). So there is no such thing as "free" email. Either the company offering it uses it to enhance the profit of other services - they make a profit from it directly, the company (and your free email) won't operate for very long, or the user is deluded. That includes 'free email' with paid hosting. Hosting email (and free messaging services) costs money. Somewhere, someone is making money. Be more concerned about those that market "privacy" and hide their income stream than those that provide lengthy, detailed lists of terms and conditions that honestly expose their business model - and be even more concerned about those that spruik the business of companies that don't (fully and honestly expose the business model behind their "free services") (the biggest of which is not Google). I can think of several, now defunct, free email providers that sold their customer information *after* they went out of business - that and the NSA hacks of the UK Yahoo and Google servers should give reason to be cautious about "free" email even when you do trust the providers - if you want to trust your email provider you must become your own email provider (or accept the fact that "privacy" is what you can reasonably expect on private premises behind curtains - *off* the intertubes which belong to others, not some little bubble that envelopes you and your information everywhere). There are dozens of free email providers - they all try and make money from your usage, some are more honest than others. There are millions of email users - most misinformed and (humanly) biased. If one archer misses the target by 2cm and another by 2m, is one a better shot, or, are they both worthless? Comparing the "privacy" of "free" email providers is not dissimilar. Currently it appears that privacy is becoming the new refuge of scoundrels. Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5357cef5.7090...@gmail.com
