Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-25 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + Joe wrote: > > > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > > > > > And for those who are wondering, this is going on in trixie. [...] > The quick fix in sources.list for debian is to add signed-by into > existing lines after deb or deb-src: > > deb \ > [

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:53:49AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 10:42:27 -0500 Michael Stone wrote: >...except that, per the rest of the discussion in that bug, it almost >certainly won't be able to predict which signer to apply for each >sources.list entry. That you'll prob

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Also, there is https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList . Regards, Jörg.

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:27:54AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Charles Curley wrote: > > Another option would be to retain all comments, and let the user > > manually convert commented out entries. Simple, easy to do, and only a > > little obnoxious for the user. > > > > And for those who are

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:53:49 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > However, it is not in the man page for apt or apt-get. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1094784 -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:30:02 + Joe wrote: > Why in the world bother making your own scripts when you can just do > > # apt modernize-sources > The following files need modernizing: > - /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome-beta.list > - /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list > -

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread songbird
Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 01:51:49AM -0500, songbird wrote: >> when doing the upgrade you do have the option of doing >> a test run to see what changes are made or not making the >> changes at that time. >> >> when goi

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 10:42:27 -0500 Michael Stone wrote: > >...except that, per the rest of the discussion in that bug, it almost > >certainly won't be able to predict which signer to apply for each > >sources.list entry. That you'll probably have to add on your own. > > It even tells you that!

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 10:22:17AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: I haven't seen this hit yet (though I probably will next time I dist-upgrade against testing), but a comment in bug #1094263 leads me to suspect that there is now supposed to be an 'apt modernize-sources' sub-command, which looks like

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Joe
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:09:37 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + > Joe wrote: > > > The long-term fix is a file standard.sources root:root 644 in > > /etc/sources.list.d containing: > > Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better > yet, a s

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-02-06 at 10:09, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + Joe wrote: > >> The long-term fix is a file standard.sources root:root 644 in >> /etc/sources.list.d containing: > > Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better > yet, a script or two to d

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:09:37AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better yet, a script or two to do it for us? There will be a lot of people scrambling to convert at the last minute. Yes, current version prompts on what to do.

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + Joe wrote: > The long-term fix is a file standard.sources root:root 644 in > /etc/sources.list.d containing: Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better yet, a script or two to do it for us? There will be a lot of people scrambling to co

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Joe
hem their own sources.list.d/.sources files e.g. opera-stable.sources, dmo.sources (deb-multimedia.org). Note that some upgrades may place/maintain .list files in sources.list.d, as was formerly customary. This will again cause the double source error, the new file should be checked and if necessary an

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Dan Purgert
On Feb 06, 2025, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > > > since from what I understand you are basically asking for other

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + Andy Smith wrote: Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted in

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > > since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise > > valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted into > >

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + Andy Smith wrote: > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise > valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted into > inactive deb822 files, which seems l

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 01:51:49AM -0500, songbird wrote: > when doing the upgrade you do have the option of doing > a test run to see what changes are made or not making the > changes at that time. > > when going through this process the comments in > sources.list

testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-05 Thread songbird
when doing the upgrade you do have the option of doing a test run to see what changes are made or not making the changes at that time. when going through this process the comments in sources.list were discarded. i don't know about other people or what they put in sources.list,

Re: Bug#1056998: cdrom: Installation media changes after booting it

2023-12-04 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Mon, Dec 4, 2023, 3:30 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > . > This seems to indicate that the firmware has a stake in the problem ... > > > Both the Thinkpad E14 Gen 5s had the same specifications and type number, > > differing only in that the one with corruption of the installer has 24GB > of >

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-09 Thread songbird
gene heskett wrote: ... > I load up a file I want to 3d print in cura, slice it into gcode, click > on save to disk. kde gets in the way so it opens a tab on the toolbar at > the bottom of the screen and to continue I have to click on that tab. > 20% of the time the where do you want to save it

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-09 Thread songbird
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: ... > He just told you to not hijack threads, and there you go and your > immediate reply is to start talking about something completely unrelated > to the rest of the discussion. oops, sorry, i just replied again. songbird

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-08 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 07/08/2023 23:45, gene heskett wrote: On 8/7/23 21:47, Greg Wooledge wrote: Start a new thread, and treat the problem seriously.  Show us the commands you're running and their output.  Show us the relevant parts of your configuration. That particular problem has been solved, Greg, and 60 day

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 21:47, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 09:03:47PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: And I'm back to hunting for the reason I can ping yahoo.com but not other machines on my local net, that are fully identified in my hosts file or vice versa Start a new thread, and treat the pro

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 09:03:47PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > And I'm back > to hunting for the reason I can ping yahoo.com but not other machines on my > local net, that are fully identified in my hosts file or vice versa Start a new thread, and treat the problem seriously. Show us the command

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 18:43, Brian wrote: On Mon 07 Aug 2023 at 17:53:41 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/7/23 14:57, Brian wrote: On Sun 06 Aug 2023 at 20:50:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] Sorry you are so offended by a hosts file user Andy, but when the guys Did someone mention a hosts file? Is

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Aug 2023 at 17:53:41 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/7/23 14:57, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 06 Aug 2023 at 20:50:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Sorry you are so offended by a hosts file user Andy, but when the guys > > > > Did someone mention a hosts file? Is thi

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 14:57, Brian wrote: On Sun 06 Aug 2023 at 20:50:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] Sorry you are so offended by a hosts file user Andy, but when the guys Did someone mention a hosts file? Is this an attempt to move discussion on to a different toic? I thought 'chattr -i' and the w

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Brian, On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 07:57:07PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 06 Aug 2023 at 20:50:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > Sorry you are so offended by a hosts file user Andy, but when the guys > > Did someone mention a hosts file? If I understand correctly, Gene identifies himself as "a h

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread Brian
On Sun 06 Aug 2023 at 20:50:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > Sorry you are so offended by a hosts file user Andy, but when the guys Did someone mention a hosts file? Is this an attempt to move discussion on to a different toic? I thought 'chattr -i' and the wisdom of using it was under disc

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 08:50:26PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Sorry you are so offended by a hosts file user Andy [...] Now this is stuff for Quote of the Day ;-) Thank you, Gene. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread gene heskett
Sorry you are so offended by a hosts file user Andy, but when the guys decide to do networking differently, usually in the badly mistaken idea that everybody runs a dhcpd server even for their isolated local network, and don't check that their brainless changes don't screw up a host

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Jon Smart
> On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 05:17:23PM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: >> It's a VPS provided by a local ISP. The VPS has a static IPv4. >> Do you know how to know if /etc/resolv.conf is modified by dhcp? > > The first thing you could do is check whether a DHCP client daemon > is running. That's usually a s

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 04:09:14PM +, Andy Smith wrote: [...] > And we wonder why this list ends up dealing with the aftermath of > the Gene school of "don't understand it? Hit it with chattr +i / rm > / apt-get purge!" so often. I must admit that I was one of those proposing chattr +i in th

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Greg, On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 08:48:25AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 07:37:35PM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > > These 4 steps do work great! > > Thanks a lot. > > These same steps are also on the wiki page that's been discussed many > times in this thread. You might want

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 07:37:35PM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > > Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > The file /etc.resolv.conf is just a soft link. > > > > You need to: > > > > 1: Delete /etc/resolv.conf - rm /etc/resolv.conf > > 2: Create a new /etc/resolv.conf file: touch /etc/resolv.conf > >

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread tomas
ions/907246/how-to-disable-systemd-resolved-in-ubuntu > > >> > > >> And I have unbound installed and enabled as local DNS server. > > >> > > >> But every time I reboot the server, the configuration file > > >> /etc/resolv.conf changes to a default one.

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 05:17:23PM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > It's a VPS provided by a local ISP. The VPS has a static IPv4. > Do you know how to know if /etc/resolv.conf is modified by dhcp? The first thing you could do is check whether a DHCP client daemon is running. That's usually a sign. Fai

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 07:37:35PM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > Unattributed: > > The file /etc.resolv.conf is just a soft link. Not always. > > You need to: > > > > 1: Delete /etc/resolv.conf - rm /etc/resolv.conf > > 2: Create a new /etc/resolv.conf file: touch /etc/resolv.conf > > 3: Configure yo

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
I dunno. How about the fact that it just solves the symptom but not the real problem? /etc/resolv.conf does not change by itself, some tool must be making the (possibly undesired) changes, so in most cases, I'd say it's better to configure that tool to stop changing resolv.conf,

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Jon Smart
t; And I have unbound installed and enabled as local DNS server. >> >> >> >> But every time I reboot the server, the configuration file >> >> /etc/resolv.conf changes to a default one. So every time I have to >> >> update >> >> its

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
fault systemd-resolved local dns service following > >> the link below, > >> > >> > https://askubuntu.com/questions/907246/how-to-disable-systemd-resolved-in-ubuntu > >> > >> And I have unbound installed and enabled as local DNS server. > >> >

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
gt; > >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/907246/how-to-disable-systemd-resolved-in-ubuntu > >> > >> And I have unbound installed and enabled as local DNS server. > >> > >> But every time I reboot the server, the configuration file > >> /etc/resolv.co

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Jon Smart
/askubuntu.com/questions/907246/how-to-disable-systemd-resolved-in-ubuntu >> >> And I have unbound installed and enabled as local DNS server. >> >> But every time I reboot the server, the configuration file >> /etc/resolv.conf changes to a default one. So every ti

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
led and enabled as local DNS server. > > But every time I reboot the server, the configuration file > /etc/resolv.conf changes to a default one. So every time I have to update > its content to: > > nameserver 127.0.0.1 > > (points to unbound) > > How to stop the auto-

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
t; > > On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 09:28:55AM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > > > > > How to stop the auto-changes to /etc/resolv.conf after rebooting? > > > > > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf > > > > > > > > > > Contrary t

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-05 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 10:27 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 10:05:31PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:13 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 09:28:55AM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > > > >

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 10:05:31PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:13 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 09:28:55AM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > > > How to stop the auto-changes to /etc/resolv.conf after rebooting? > >

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-05 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:13 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 09:28:55AM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > > How to stop the auto-changes to /etc/resolv.conf after rebooting? > > https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf > Contrary to what that page states, auto changes to res

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 09:28:55AM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > How to stop the auto-changes to /etc/resolv.conf after rebooting? https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-05 Thread jeremy ardley
reboot the server, the configuration file /etc/resolv.conf changes to a default one. So every time I have to update its content to: nameserver 127.0.0.1 (points to unbound) How to stop the auto-changes to /etc/resolv.conf after rebooting? Thanks. What is the new contents of /etc/resolv.conf

/etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-05 Thread Jon Smart
file /etc/resolv.conf changes to a default one. So every time I have to update its content to: nameserver 127.0.0.1 (points to unbound) How to stop the auto-changes to /etc/resolv.conf after rebooting? Thanks.

Re: apt update fails due to Label and Version changes for buster security

2022-12-16 Thread John Boxall
On 2022-12-16 13:00, Tim Woodall wrote: Thanks Tim, I will root around in the docs a little more. Strange because I've done multiple updates since your last backup date of Dec 2nd and not had this issue. H. -- Regards, John Boxall

Re: apt update fails due to Label and Version changes for buster security

2022-12-16 Thread Tim Woodall
explicitly before updates for this repository can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. Do you want to accept these changes and continue updating from this repository? [y/N] n Hit:5 https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian buster InRelease Hit:6 https://updates.signal.org/desk

Re: apt update fails due to Label and Version changes for buster security

2022-12-16 Thread Tim Woodall
ry can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. Do you want to accept these changes and continue updating from this repository? [y/N] n Hit:5 https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian buster InRelease Hit:6 https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial InRelease Reading packa

Re: apt update fails due to Label and Version changes for buster security

2022-12-16 Thread Tim Woodall
ebian-Security' N: Repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease' changed its 'Version' value from '10.13' to '10' N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be applied. See apt-secure(8) man

apt update fails due to Label and Version changes for buster security

2022-12-15 Thread John Boxall
27;http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease' changed its 'Version' value from '10.13' to '10' N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. Do you want to

Re: Touchpad synaptics changes name after resume

2022-12-05 Thread David Wright
s TouchPad" > > > $ cat ~/opt/bin/touchpad-off > > > xinput disable "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" > > > > > > The problem is that xinput(1) changes the name of the touchpad every > > > now and again: > > > > > > $

Re: Touchpad synaptics changes name after resume

2022-12-03 Thread David Wright
rtcuts: > > $ cat ~/opt/bin/touchpad-on > xinput enable "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" > $ cat ~/opt/bin/touchpad-off > xinput disable "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" > > The problem is that xinput(1) changes the name of the touchpad every > now

Re: Touchpad synaptics changes name after resume

2022-12-03 Thread Will Mengarini
SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" > xinput disable "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" > > The problem is that xinput(1) changes the > name of the touchpad every now and again: > > $ dmesg| grep -i synaptics |grep "as /devices" > [463340.358242] input: Synaptics TM2

Re: Changes in the syslog date format?

2022-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
medium [...] * Enable high precision timestamps with timezone information. Use the default rsyslog file format, which provides several benefits like: - sortable - time zone information - sub-second time resolution Testing and unstable users ought to expect changes, and they ought to be self-aware enough to include "I'm running testing" in their emails.

[SOLVED] Re: Changes in the syslog date format?

2022-11-05 Thread local10
Nov 5, 2022, 14:53 by j...@k4vqc.com: > On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 11:34 +0100, local10 wrote: > >> Nov 5, 2022, 09:55 by scdbac...@gmx.net: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > local10 wrote: >> > >> > > Any ideas as to get the old syslog date format back? >> > > >> > >> > The internet points to /etc/rsyslog.con

Re: Changes in the syslog date format?

2022-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > > local10 wrote: > > > > > > > Any ideas as to get the old syslog date format back? What caused a change? What version of Debian are you running? What happened on the date in question (November 4) -- were some packages updated? Which ones? Here in Debian 11 (bullseye), I see no such chang

Re: Changes in the syslog date format?

2022-11-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 11:34 +0100, local10 wrote: > Nov 5, 2022, 09:55 by scdbac...@gmx.net: > > > Hi, > > > > local10 wrote: > > > > > Any ideas as to get the old syslog date format back? > > > > > > > The internet points to /etc/rsyslog.conf and in there: > > > >  # > >  # Use traditional t

Re: Changes in the syslog date format?

2022-11-05 Thread local10
Nov 5, 2022, 09:55 by scdbac...@gmx.net: > Hi, > > local10 wrote: > >> Any ideas as to get the old syslog date format back? >> > > The internet points to /etc/rsyslog.conf and in there: > > # > # Use traditional timestamp format. > # To enable high precision timestamps, comment out the followin

Re: Changes in the syslog date format?

2022-11-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, local10 wrote: > Any ideas as to get the old syslog date format back? The internet points to /etc/rsyslog.conf and in there: # # Use traditional timestamp format. # To enable high precision timestamps, comment out the following line. # $ActionFileDefaultTemplate RSYSLOG_Traditional

Changes in the syslog date format?

2022-11-05 Thread local10
Hi, It looks like the syslog date format has changed for some reason (see below) and the change is definitely less readable for me. The change maybe related to the rsyslog upgrade that happened around November 4, 2022:     [UPGRADE] rsyslog:amd64 8.2210.0-1 -> 8.2210.0-3 Any ideas as to get th

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-24 Thread Curt
On 2022-09-24, David Wright wrote: > > It's odd: virtually all the software I use (eg emacs, gnumeric, > inkscape, even mutt) modifies either the title bar or a status bar > as soon as I make any modification of a document (typically an > asterisk), and removes it if I revert the change, or save i

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-24 Thread David Wright
On Sat 24 Sep 2022 at 06:43:03 (-0400), Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: > On Samstag, 24. September 2022 00:11:01 -04 piorunz wrote: > > On 24/09/2022 01:38, Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: > > > did you realize that, if the backup copy fails for any reason, also > > > the document cannot be saved and thus *

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-24 Thread Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ
On Samstag, 24. September 2022 11:27:24 -04 Charles Curley wrote: > On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:50:04 +0100 > > piorunz wrote: > > On 24/09/2022 11:43, Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: > > > The problem is: if you enabled it and for some reason the backup > > > copy cannot be written, LibreOffice also does n

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-24 Thread piorunz
On 24/09/2022 16:27, Charles Curley wrote: That's very interesting. Where does backup copy is being written? To the same folder where original supposed to be? Like Kate text editor writes backups as "filename.txt~" in the same folder? ~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/backup/ Incidentally, it won'

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:50:04 +0100 piorunz wrote: > On 24/09/2022 11:43, Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: > > > The problem is: if you enabled it and for some reason the backup > > copy cannot be written, LibreOffice also does not write the > > original. The warning LibreOffice emits is: "Cannot write

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-24 Thread Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ
On Samstag, 24. September 2022 10:50:04 -04 piorunz wrote: > On 24/09/2022 11:43, Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: > > The problem is: if you enabled it and for some reason the backup > > copy > > cannot be written, LibreOffice also does not write the original. > > The warning LibreOffice emits is: "Cann

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-24 Thread piorunz
On 24/09/2022 11:43, Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: The problem is: if you enabled it and for some reason the backup copy cannot be written, LibreOffice also does not write the original. The warning LibreOffice emits is: "Cannot write backup copy" but it does not tell you that it will not even write

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-24 Thread Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ
On Samstag, 24. September 2022 00:11:01 -04 piorunz wrote: > On 24/09/2022 01:38, Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: > > did you realize that, if the backup copy fails for any reason, also > > the document cannot be saved and thus *all* work is lost? I > > experienced this behaviour recently to my dismay (

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-23 Thread piorunz
On 24/09/2022 01:38, Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: did you realize that, if the backup copy fails for any reason, also the document cannot be saved and thus *all* work is lost? I experienced this behaviour recently to my dismay (not to say anger). I never used Backup copy feature, I just enabled

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-23 Thread Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ
On Freitag, 23. September 2022 09:28:12 -04 piorunz wrote: > On 13/09/2022 20:47, Juan R.D. Silva wrote: > > I was pissed off to find out that autosave is desabled by default. I > > used not to care. Looks like now I want to enable it. 😄 > > Same! I just realized that AutoRecovery is disabled by d

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-23 Thread piorunz
On 13/09/2022 20:47, Juan R.D. Silva wrote: I was pissed off to find out that autosave is desabled by default. I used not to care. Looks like now I want to enable it. 😄 Same! I just realized that AutoRecovery is disabled by default, and backup copy feature is also disabled by default. Now I ena

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-23 Thread Chris Mitchell
On Wed, 14 Sep 2022 09:37:14 +0200 (CEST) local10 wrote: > I actually have it disabled on purpose. The reason is I don't always > want changes to be autosaved because sometimes the changes make the > document worse. I wonder if there's some change tracking option in LO > t

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-14 Thread Curt
On 2022-09-13, DdB wrote: > Am 13.09.2022 um 21:47 schrieb Juan R.D. Silva: >> Oh, I did recreated it. And I even think is very close to original. :-) > > This is good news! Thanks for sharing it. :-) > DdB > I thought he was going to say the rewrite was an *improvement*. I think it was Hemingwa

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-14 Thread local10
Sep 13, 2022, 19:47 by juan.r.d.si...@gmail.com: > I was pissed off to find out that autosave is desabled by default. I used not > to care. Looks like now I want to enable it. :-) > I actually have it disabled on purpose. The reason is I don't always want changes to be aut

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-13 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 03:47:34PM -0400, Juan R.D. Silva wrote: [...] > Thanks for you time. Oh, I did recreated it. And I even think is very close > to original. :-) I'll bet it's better :-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-13 Thread DdB
Am 13.09.2022 um 21:47 schrieb Juan R.D. Silva: > Oh, I did recreated it. And I even think is very close to original. :-) This is good news! Thanks for sharing it. :-) DdB

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-13 Thread Juan R.D. Silva
(short answer) No. Its more like "shit happens!" It does indeed :-( Even with best of knowledge and abilities, what once was in memory (RAM) will be reused pretty quick, and if you chose to not autosave regularly, there won't be much left, and even if there would be, the work to get it into pr

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-13 Thread songbird
Juan R.D. Silva wrote: > I edited a file for hours and then mistakenly clicked "Do not save" > while closing file. Auto save is not enabled. No backup exist in > LibreOffice Backup folder. The computer is not restarted yet. Temp > folder have only old version. Any way to recover the lost edited

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-12 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 12/09/2022 23:58, Juan R.D. Silva wrote: I edited a file for hours and then mistakenly clicked "Do not save" while closing file. Auto save is not enabled. No backup exist in LibreOffice Backup folder. The computer is not restarted yet. Temp folder have only old version. Any way to recover th

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-12 Thread DdB
Oh dear! Been there, done that... (short answer) No. Its more like "shit happens!" Even with best of knowledge and abilities, what once was in memory (RAM) will be reused pretty quick, and if you chose to not autosave regularly, there won't be much left, and even if there would be, the work to ge

LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-12 Thread Juan R.D. Silva
I edited a file for hours and then mistakenly clicked "Do not save" while closing file. Auto save is not enabled. No backup exist in LibreOffice Backup folder. The computer is not restarted yet. Temp folder have only old version. Any way to recover the lost edited version? Or the only option to

Re: net.ipv6.conf.intf.disable_ipv6 behavior changes

2022-09-07 Thread Casey Deccio
> On Sep 3, 2022, at 7:30 PM, Kevin Price wrote: > > Am 03.09.22 um 06:32 schrieb Casey Deccio: >>> On Sep 2, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Kevin Price wrote > >>> We got him. :) Casey, you file the bug report, Okay? > >> Done! https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1018999 >> Thanks for all

Re: net.ipv6.conf.intf.disable_ipv6 behavior changes

2022-09-03 Thread Kevin Price
Am 03.09.22 um 06:32 schrieb Casey Deccio: >> On Sep 2, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Kevin Price wrote >> We got him. :) Casey, you file the bug report, Okay? > Done! https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1018999 > Thanks for all the help! You are very welcome. Thanks a lot for this conversa

Re: net.ipv6.conf.intf.disable_ipv6 behavior changes

2022-09-02 Thread Casey Deccio
> On Sep 2, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Kevin Price wrote: > > Am 03.09.22 um 02:15 schrieb Kevin Price: >> Let's double check whether our connman is in fact the culprit, and then >> make arrest. (file bug report) > > We got him. :) Casey, you file the bug report, Okay? Done! https://bugs.debian.org/c

Re: net.ipv6.conf.intf.disable_ipv6 behavior changes

2022-09-02 Thread Kevin Price
Am 03.09.22 um 02:15 schrieb Kevin Price: > Let's double check whether our connman is in fact the culprit, and then > make arrest. (file bug report) We got him. :) Casey, you file the bug report, Okay? Blank debian, apt --no-install-recommends install connman will break "disable_ipv6" as you

Re: net.ipv6.conf.intf.disable_ipv6 behavior changes

2022-09-02 Thread Kevin Price
Am 02.09.22 um 22:03 schrieb Casey Deccio: > Then I ran tasksel and add Debian desktop environment and LXDE and rebooted. > At that point, disable_ipv6 does *not* work. > > Now, this does seem to narrow it down--sort of. It does. And *now* I can reproduce. task-lxde-desktop requires lxde, lxde

Re: net.ipv6.conf.intf.disable_ipv6 behavior changes

2022-09-02 Thread Casey Deccio
> On Sep 2, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Kevin Price wrote: > > I suspect your "very little customization" (since you're doing > networking stuff) or the "VBox Guest Additions" (since they mess with > network interfaces). In order to test this, I used > debian-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso from the archive to

Re: net.ipv6.conf.intf.disable_ipv6 behavior changes

2022-09-02 Thread Kevin Price
Am 02.09.22 um 15:46 schrieb Casey Deccio: >> On Sep 2, 2022, at 2:51 AM, Kevin Price wrote: > Thanks for the idea. I took your advice and booted my 5.10.0-17 system > (problem system) with 5.10.0-13. The problem persisted! Then I updated my > "old" (non-problem) system from Debian 11.3 to 11

Re: net.ipv6.conf.intf.disable_ipv6 behavior changes

2022-09-02 Thread Casey Deccio
> On Sep 2, 2022, at 2:51 AM, Kevin Price wrote: > > Am 02.09.22 um 06:33 schrieb Casey Deccio: >> 1) a sanity check (can others confirm the behavior discrepancy?); > > No. My 5.10.0-17 behaves like your 5.10.0-13. Thanks so much for checking! > 2) an expectation of *correct* behavior (seem

Re: net.ipv6.conf.intf.disable_ipv6 behavior changes

2022-09-02 Thread Kevin Price
Am 02.09.22 um 06:33 schrieb Casey Deccio: > 1) a sanity check (can others confirm the behavior discrepancy?); No. My 5.10.0-17 behaves like your 5.10.0-13. 2) an expectation of *correct* behavior (seems to me like the 5.10.0-13 behavior is "correct"); Yes. and 3) suggestions for next steps. F

Re: net.ipv6.conf.intf.disable_ipv6 behavior changes

2022-09-01 Thread Casey Deccio
> On Sep 1, 2022, at 10:33 PM, Casey Deccio wrote: > > I've come across some unexpected changes in interface behavior between > linux-image-5.10.0-13-amd64 and linux-image-5.10.0-17-amd64. > Relatedly, there is this behavior change: linux-image-5.10.0-13-amd64: $ su

net.ipv6.conf.intf.disable_ipv6 behavior changes

2022-09-01 Thread Casey Deccio
I've come across some unexpected changes in interface behavior between linux-image-5.10.0-13-amd64 and linux-image-5.10.0-17-amd64. Consider the following script: $ cat test.sh #!/bin/sh sudo ip link add test1 type veth peer test2 sudo ip link set test1 down sudo ip link set test2 down

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