Hi Greg, On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 08:48:25AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 07:37:35PM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > > These 4 steps do work great! > > Thanks a lot. > > These same steps are also on the wiki page that's been discussed many > times in this thread. You might want to read what the wiki has to > say about it, especially about /etc filling up with temporary files. > > They're also the same steps that someone else in this thread has > criticized. Again. As you can see, some people simply *despise* this, > despite how simple and effective it is.
So you honestly do not see a problem with how this has played out, despite your tone in the preceding paragraph where you seem exasperated that Jon has not taken the time to understand the problem or read any of the documentation or basically do anything that involves effort on their part? I'm surprised I need to clarify this, but I'm not disappointed because Jon chose to make a file immutable, I'm disappointed because Jon leapt at the option that involved pasting some commands in without understanding them or what is actually going on with their machine. And not purely because I think Jon ought to understand these things as some pure ideal state of being, but objectively because when Jon hits any sort of networking problem in future, Jon will STILL have no idea how their network is actually set up. Which is astonishing for someone wanting to run a server. And this attitude will be applied to other parts of the system. And this list will see Jon or someone like them again very soon and be asked to unpick this behaviour. Here I think chattr +i is a useful tool that should be used to reach a state of understanding if necessary, not an actual fix. I agree that it belongs at the bottom of documentation and couched with caveats, not handed out as a "just do this". That's very sad to see. And even sadder to see promoted as the "solution". Cheers, Andy > -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
