on Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 01:54:46PM -0500, M. Kirchhoff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Don Werve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>For those wealthy enough to attend college, many
> >>will attain near-useless English and Liberal Arts degrees, because >>they
> >>lack the impetus, drive, and determination t
Don Werve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>For those wealthy enough to attend college, many
>>will attain near-useless English and Liberal Arts degrees, because >>they
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Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>which means that u
Tom wrote:
> I think we as a plant need to play a fun game. For one
> week, everybody has to in a serious way act the opposite
> way of what they believe.
>
> Michael Moore and Al Franken need to be on TV fishing
> and talking bout shotguns. George Bush needs to lead
> an abortion rights mar
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:24:03 -0600,
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 00:18, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> [snip]
> > ..what stops Sissy Boy George from launching a "preventive" strike
> > to prevent an indictment for war crimes and treason und
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> >
> > > On Sun,
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On Sunday 16 November 2003 01:57, Paul Johnson wrote:
> We're not a whole lot better. Remember the cold war and it's spinoff
> conflicts in Vietnam and Korea? The US killed countless many people
> because those in power in the US didn't like the str
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> On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 09:21:58PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Because Canada wasn't born in rebellion, and doesn't still have
> > individualism as part of it's ethos?
> >
> > Because Canadian
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> On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 03:06:13AM +, ben wrote:
> > in fact, i remember that the father-son assault of a baseball
> > umpire somewhere in the midwest made the nightly news because it was
> >
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 00:18, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
[snip]
> ..what stops Sissy Boy George from launching a "preventive" strike to
> prevent an indictment for war crimes and treason under US Law?
The fact that the President, alone, can not authorize the use of
nuclear weapons.
Besides, you never ans
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> > On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 02:30, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:52:47 -0600,
> > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > ..huh? I found him doing it once:
> > http://www.democraticundergr
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> ..huh? I found him doing it once:
> http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/02/07/p/16_radio.html
I recall he did it when he gave progressive editorials back when he
had a promisi
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> >
> > > On Sun,
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> > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:12:34PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > >
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> On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 03:06:13AM +, ben wrote:
> > in fact, i remember that the father-son assault of a baseball
> > umpire somewhere in the midwest made the nigh
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> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:52:47 -0600,
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 00:18, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
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> > > ..what stops Sissy Boy George from launching a "preventive" strike
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> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:12:34PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > That movie's writer/director, Michael Moore, *hates* people who
> > > don't agree with him. So, if you watch the movie
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 09:21:58PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Because Canada wasn't born in rebellion, and doesn't still have
> individualism as part of it's ethos?
>
> Because Canadians *like* government?
Canadian politicians at least admit they fu
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On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 03:06:13AM +, ben wrote:
> in fact, i remember that the father-son assault of a baseball
> umpire somewhere in the midwest made the nightly news because it was
> quite uncharacteristic of sports fans in the u.s.
And yet, wh
16, 2003 00:18
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> > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:49:50 -0600,
> > "Hoyt Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > <[EMAIL
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Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>
> Norman Podhoretz said only ex-communists can talk intelligently about
> anti-communism.
>
i'm trying to imagine a bunch of ex-capitalists down in cuba
intelligentlly discussing anti-capitalism.
ben
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 08:06:15PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:41, ScruLoose wrote:
> >
> > Well, when you look at the US figures on "firearm-related fatalities"
> > being up in the tens of thousands per year...
> > compared to (for example) Canada with a couple of hundred
rday, November 15, 2003 14:02
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> > On Saturday 15 November 2003 2:30 pm, Vikki Roemer wrote:
> > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:17:27PM -0500, Alf
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> On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 13:17, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> > On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote:
> [snip]
> > > That is, the outcome was indeterminate. So anybody else who could
> >
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:01, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 05:08, cr wrote:
> > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:06, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:41, ScruLoose wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:09:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [E
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:48:25 +0800,
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> >
> > > Its not often that I agree with Tom. Should I be worried?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Holy crap! I would!
>
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> > That movie's writer/director, Michael Moore, *hates* people who
> > d
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 06:05:35AM +, ben wrote:
>
> there is definitely a huge gap between how one imagines something to be
> and to witness the actual event of the same. you're absolutely right,
> and to shock people into civility might not be a bad idea; one which
> might be the reason why
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:11:02 -0800
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:59:18PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> [massive snip]
> > It seems to me that a fundamental problem with this (common)
> > viewpoint is that guns have *always* been common in the US.
> >
> > Something has
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> > I wonder if, in some ways, the US isn't too big/diverse to be led
> > by any one person, and distinctive personalities can only e
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:59:18PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
[massive snip]
> It seems to me that a fundamental problem with this (common) viewpoint
> is that guns have *always* been common in the US.
>
> Something has happened, though, to alter peoples' value of life.
> In 1981, when I graduated
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 21:06, ben wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:03:44 -0600
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [big snip]
> > Inherently violent society? No, can't be, because the US didn't
> > used to be violent. Maybe there was a "latently violent tendency"
> > (that's not present in m
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>
> > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:23:51 +0800
> > csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:35:54 -0600,
> > > Ron Johnson wrot
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:03:44 -0600
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[big snip]
> Inherently violent society? No, can't be, because the US didn't
> used to be violent. Maybe there was a "latently violent tendency"
> (that's not present in many other societies) just waiting for soci-
> etal b
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>
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 09:08:07AM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> > > Its not often that I agree with Tom. Should I be worried?
> >
> > It's my lot in
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> I wonder if, in some ways, the US isn't too big/diverse to be led
> by any one person, and distinctive personalities can only emerge
> on the state level.
I've wondered how Canada ended u
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 04:57:21PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 08:23:59PM -0800, Tom wrote:
> > compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot believe you are
> > acusing *US* of advocating a theocracy. talk about head up the ass.
>
> We're not a whole lot better.
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 08:23:59PM -0800, Tom wrote:
> compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot believe you are
> acusing *US* of advocating a theocracy. talk about head up the ass.
We're not a whole lot better. Remember the cold war and
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On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 12:00, Pigeon wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 10:01:36AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 05:08, cr wrote:
> > >
> > > That's kinda a risky argument to rely on, since if accepted it inevitably
> > > leads to the question - why does the US have ten times a
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 10:01:36AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 05:08, cr wrote:
> >
> > That's kinda a risky argument to rely on, since if accepted it inevitably
> > leads to the question - why does the US have ten times as many homicidal
> > criminals per capita, than othe
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 07:23:51PM +0800, csj wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:35:54 -0600,
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:31, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> > > On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote:
> > [snip very good points]
> > >
> > > > The modern 'education
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:26:49PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 15:01, Tom wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:41:17PM -0600, Tim Kelley wrote:
> > > On Monday 10 November 2003 10:24 pm, Tom wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:11:04PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote:
> [snip]
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 15:01, Tom wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:41:17PM -0600, Tim Kelley wrote:
> > On Monday 10 November 2003 10:24 pm, Tom wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:11:04PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote:
[snip]
>
> I'm a "Developer" -- even though I started with VB and Access and
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:37, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:19:10PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote:
> > Personally, I think the whole federal government system is corrupted and
> > bloated and it needs to be totally redone from scratch. Unfortunately, I'm
> > prolly looking at thi
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 09:08:07AM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> Its not often that I agree with Tom. Should I be worried?
It's my lot in life to be a thorn in the side. Everybody in the world
identifies themselves by what camps they belong to. I argue in this
bizarro style mostly to stir passi
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 04:22:52PM -0800, Tom wrote:
> Nothing would be learned by this experience. Just for the sheer,
> anarchic, nonsensical bizarness of it. Try it. It's fun.
I tried that once, and I became a very thin Eric Cartman.
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:12:34PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> That movie's writer/director, Michael Moore, *hates* people who
> don't agree with him. So, if you watch the movie, remember that.
Search Google News for Michael Moore Lars Larson to hear
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:54:58PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > I think we as a plant need to play a fun game. For one week, everybody
> ^
>
> I think you've smoked a bit too much of the aforementioned weed
Either that, o
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:41:17PM -0600, Tim Kelley wrote:
> On Monday 10 November 2003 10:24 pm, Tom wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:11:04PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote:
> > > > Paying the occasional "sysadmin bill" might well come out to less
> > > > than what these people spend on the softw
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:19:10PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote:
> Personally, I think the whole federal government system is corrupted and
> bloated and it needs to be totally redone from scratch. Unfortunately, I'm
> prolly looking at this like a hacker. :(
The Federal government at least has the
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:02:06PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> On Saturday 15 November 2003 2:30 pm, Vikki Roemer wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:17:27PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> > > On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote:
> > > > compared to the taliban and the islamists, I
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:02, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> On Saturday 15 November 2003 2:30 pm, Vikki Roemer wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:17:27PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> > > On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote:
> > > > compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot believ
On Saturday 15 November 2003 2:30 pm, Vikki Roemer wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:17:27PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> > On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote:
> > > compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot believe you are
> > > acusing *US* of advocating a theocracy. ta
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:57:46PM +, Pigeon wrote:
> > Drugs are bad 'couse are not good, m'kay??
> > And pot, pot is bad, m'kay??
> >
> > ;-)
>
> ROFL, I've been trying not to post that myself :-)
I think we all were thinking it before it was
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:23:51 +0800
csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:35:54 -0600,
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:31, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> > > On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote:
> > [snip very good points]
> > >
> > > > The mod
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:07:49PM +, Pigeon wrote:
> There's This Tribe (TM) who subsist by gathering vegetables and
> spearing fish. They're not into agriculture for food... but they do
> cultivate pot so they can get stoned while waiting for a w
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TR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Its not often that I agree with Tom. Should I be worried?
> >
> >
>
> Holy crap! I would!
>
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Regards
David.
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:17:27PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote:
>
> > compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot believe you are
> > acusing *US* of advocating a theocracy. talk about head up the ass.
>
> But talibans and islamists don'
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 13:17, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote:
[snip]
> > That is, the outcome was indeterminate. So anybody else who could have
> > potentially been said to "win" would be equally illegitmate. It kind of
> > sucks when you have a country with
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:09:56 +
ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:05:15 -0600
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 23:07, ben wrote:
> > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 20
On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote:
> compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot believe you are
> acusing *US* of advocating a theocracy. talk about head up the ass.
But talibans and islamists don't spend billions of dollars a year in weapons.
Therefore the rest of the wo
On Monday 10 November 2003 10:24 pm, Tom wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:11:04PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote:
> > > Paying the occasional "sysadmin bill" might well come out to less
> > > than what these people spend on the software itself now.
>
> People cost a ton -- $100g + 30% for benefits.
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 06:55, Pigeon wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:14:38AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]
>
> > Democracy will be preserved, but only for appearance. People can
> > vote, but the elections will be rigged
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:35:54 -0600,
Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:31, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> > On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote:
> [snip very good points]
> >
> > > The modern 'educational' process is there to teach people
> > > how to read just well enou
> Its not often that I agree with Tom. Should I be worried?
>
>
Holy crap! I would!
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On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 05:08, cr wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:06, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:41, ScruLoose wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:09:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 08:09, ben wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:05:15 -0600
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 23:07, ben wrote:
> > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Chema wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:07:49 +
> Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> P> There's This Tribe (TM) who subsist by gathering vegetables and
> P> spearing fish. They're not into agriculture for food... but they do
> P> cultivate pot so they
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:14:38AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> > Since the US hasn't ratified the ICJ treaty, it can't happen, unless
> > the Europeans come in (in force) and *take* GWB. (Ha ha ha ha ha.)
>
> First off, my a
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> From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> It seems to me that the "most successful" would be those who can
> master the social needs (get good grades from approved testbooks,
> etc), while still being able to think outside the box.
Ron, I can't give your remark the attention it deserves because
sorry, that should have been
www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html
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Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 23:07, ben wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> [snip]
> > whatever about the rest, a
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:06, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:41, ScruLoose wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:09:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> > > >
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 23:07, ben wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]
> whatever about the rest, a theocracy in a century! bush has already made
> public statements about how god instructe
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:07:01AM +, ben wrote:
[snip]
> whatever about the rest, a theocracy in a century! bush has already made
> public statements about how god instructed him to invade afghanistan and
> iraq. what the hell happend to separation of church and state?
compared to the taliban
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:55:58 -0800
Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:12, David Palmer. wrote:
> ...
> >>These potentially highly dangerous individuals are confined to
> >>institutions known as 'research centres', and if non conforming are seen
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:07:49 +
Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
P> There's This Tribe (TM) who subsist by gathering vegetables and
P> spearing fish. They're not into agriculture for food... but they do
P> cultivate pot so they can get stoned while waiting for a worthwhile
P> fish to come by.
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> > Since the US hasn't ratified the ICJ treaty, it can't happen, unless
> > the Europeans come in (in force) and *take* GWB. (Ha ha ha ha ha.)
>
> First off, my advan
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:41, ScruLoose wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:09:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don't think they will do so well with the n
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:50:40PM +, Pigeon wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 09:25:19PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 08:33:02PM +, Pigeon wrote:
> > (c) running costs for
> > > the sort of vehicle that gets you from A
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 15:00
> > Subject: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS:
> > "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
[snip]
> I think we as a plant need to play a fun game. For one week, everybody
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:38, cr wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:12, David Palmer. wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:44:33 -0600
> >
> > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:48, David Palmer. wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:41:32 -0800
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A
as: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS:
> "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
>
>
> > > [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't know, back
> > > in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a affluent family walked
> >
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From: "Alfredo Valles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 15:00
Subject: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS:
"Red Hat recommends Windows
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:12, David Palmer. wrote:
...
These potentially highly dangerous individuals are confined to
institutions known as 'research centres', and if non conforming are seen
as a disruptive and undesirable element by the established social order,
and are further r
hi ya
and yes... putting all this back into debian world ..
all this opium stuff, social engineering, and monkeys have everything
to do with "sys admining" a linux/debian box for those that are
wondering .. :-) doing the sysadmining of the debian part is only 5-10%
of the "total work"
aint it
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:39:31 -0600,
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 02:22, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:56:11 -0600,
> > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > On Thu,
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:35:54PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:31, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> > On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote:
> [snip very good points]
> >
> > > The modern 'educational' process is there to teach people how to read
> > > just well
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:12, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:00, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> > > [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't know, back
> > > in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a affluent family walked
> > > into their High School armed with rifles and pisto
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:09:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't think they will do so well with the number of guns you have in the
> > > streets, bullets do
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:12, David Palmer. wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:44:33 -0600
>
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:48, David Palmer. wrote:
> > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:41:32 -0800
> > >
> > >
> > > Agreed.
> > > Einstein failed a maths exam, didn't see the
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:31, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote:
[snip very good points]
>
> > The modern 'educational' process is there to teach people how to read
> > just well enough so that they no longer need to think.
> > Regards,
>
>
> The mode
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:12, David Palmer. wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:44:33 -0600
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:48, David Palmer. wrote:
> > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:41:32 -0800
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 0
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