On Tue, 2025-04-15 at 20:47 +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Jan Claeys wrote:
> > On Sun, 2025-04-06 at 17:42 +0300, Serkan Kurt wrote:
> > > Hello. A USBA (ss) wireless mouse is connected to the laptop.
> > > When I connect a WD Element 1 TB or WD Element
devices) can cause
electromagnetic interference to wireless devices that operate in the
2.4 GHz frequency bands.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#Radio_frequency_interference
The solution is to move the wireless receiver away from the USB ports
that the external disk is connected to.
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On Tue, 2025-03-25 at 17:12 +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> Jan Claeys (HE12025-03-25):
> > > I should mention that having an internet facing ssh service is
> > > usually a very bad idea. The 'better' approach is to have only a
> > > VPN exposed and use heav
an ssh through the VPN to internal systems.
Why do you think SSH is less secure than any other VPN ?
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former).
BTW: mail archiving is disabled by default in Evolution, and has always
been AFAIK, so either you changed something or something else is doing
the archiving. Maybe something on your mail server or another mail
client (e.g. on mobile)?
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On Fri, 2024-12-13 at 13:54 -0800, Van Snyder wrote:
> On Fri, 2024-12-13 at 16:54 +0100, Jan Claeys wrote:
> > I've seen cases where force-reloading (Ctrl+F5) or closing one page
> > that had been loaded in a tab for a while, and then waiting a
> > couple minutes to gi
iest
to use some sort of "lock" that is set by the backup process itself (or
that you wrap around it).
Otherwise there probably isn't any good, error-free way to determine
what "load" should inhibit sleep or not...
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where force-reloading (Ctrl+F5) or closing one page that had
been loaded in a tab for a while, and then waiting a couple minutes to
give the JavaScript engine's garbage collector time to do its job,
freed about 8 GiB (!) of RAM afterwards...
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links to certain fragments of the audio instead?
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There is Debian community in Discord
https://discord.gg/debian
https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=803217&hilit=discord#p803217
пн, 29 июл. 2024 г. в 19:15, :
> Michel Verdier wrote:
> > On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote:
> >
> > +1 to all you say.
> >
> > > Maybe one of you younger fol
On gnome you can just run
$ *gnome-shell --version*
пт, 7 июн. 2024 г. в 22:04, David Wright :
> On Fri 07 Jun 2024 at 20:06:27 (+0300), Jan Krapivin wrote:
> > Yes, you are right, maybe. Though Debian is probably a rare (if not the
> > only) distro that still uses Gnome 43.9,
Yes, you are right, maybe. Though Debian is probably a rare (if not the
only) distro that still uses Gnome 43.9, which is, as i use Debian, my
case. And (maybe) a problem?
пт, 7 июн. 2024 г. в 20:01, :
> Jan Krapivin wrote:
> > Thank you for your reply. This topic is not about Debian
e to install Gnome extensions with
regular files.
But i wonder if it is a universal problem, and if it is not, what is wrong
with me, as i haven't done any major changes in OS.
пт, 7 июн. 2024 г. в 03:50, George at Clug :
> Hi Jan Krapivin,
>
> I am hoping someone can help you with y
Guys, can you please spend 30 seconds and check if it is a universal
problem..?
чт, 6 июн. 2024 г. в 13:41, Jan Krapivin :
> I have a problem with a Gnome browser plugin. I have even created an issue
> report (see below).
>
> Unfortunately I don't know if I am the only one
I have a problem with a Gnome browser plugin. I have even created an issue
report (see below).
Unfortunately I don't know if I am the only one with this problem.
If you use Debian 12 stable with Gnome, please let me know about your
experience.
"Hello! I use Debian 12 stable with Gnome 43.9. Rece
Have you tried a LIVE-version of another Linux distribution? It will be
interesting to compare.
вс, 7 апр. 2024 г. в 22:30, Richmond :
> Richmond writes:
>
> > Richmond writes:
> >
> >> When playing videos in a web browser, and sending the sound to a
> >> bluetooth speaker (amazon echo) I get p
чт, 21 мар. 2024 г. в 22:34, Alexander V. Makartsev :
> This conclusion seems less than optimal to me.
> By condemning yourself to type 12+ character password every time you
> 'sudo' would really hurt accessibility and usability of your home computer
> and for no good reason.
>
> If we focus solel
I must mention that "32 characters" is only my guess.
In the Handbook it is said: "The root user's password should be long (12
characters or more) and impossible to guess."
Also, i must again say that in my case we speak just about a humble home
desktop, without a ""ssh" access"" or whatever comp
> The threats are different for:
>
> - a laptop that travels and can be stolen
> - a desktop that does not leave your residence
> - a server that accepts connections from the outside world
>
>
> Check whether you are running ssh:
>
It is a simple home desktop PC
*@deb:~$ /sbin/service ssh status*
> Do you have some kind of remote access enabled or do you intend to in
> the near future?
>
No and no. Its just a simple home PC.
>
> If not, then you do not need to worry. Even less if you have a firewall
> to block any service that might appear by mistake.
>
I have UFW (gufw) enabled.
Thank
I read Debian Administrator's handbook now. And there are such words:
The root user's password should be long (12 characters or more) and
impossible to guess. Indeed, any computer (and a fortiori any server)
connected to the Internet is regularly targeted by automated connection
attempts with the
exact model) and
receiver on an internal wi-fi adapter (AX 210) have worked so poorly both.
Though I was in the distance not more than 2 meters from receiver.
Thanks for help
пт, 15 мар. 2024 г. в 05:21, Max Nikulin :
> On 14/03/2024 19:06, Jan Krapivin wrote:
> >
> > What do
> You may try to discriminate hardware/software issues when you comparing
> different laptops by booting various live images (GNOME, xfce, etc.).
>
I will try... Thank you.
What do you think about QUANT parameter in *pw-top*? Can it influence sound
quality? I wasn't able to change it with
*pw-m
> Run the command as root, but you already have enough keywords to search
> in bug reports and discussions related to PipeWire and pulseaudio. The
> latter may have some workarounds for specific models of headphones.
Thanks, i will try to research this topic.
> PipeWire mailing list or forum ma
another laptop with Debian 12 XFCE (Pulseaudio).
But the problem is with *TWO* headsets, so i am in question whats
happening with Debian, because Linux Mint and Android works fine...
пн, 11 мар. 2024 г. в 23:48, Jan Krapivin :
> Hello again. I have used *pactl subscribe *command and i t
Hello again. I have used *pactl subscribe *command and i think that in the
moment of sound interrupt there are the corresponding lines:
"Event 'remove' on sink-input #353
Event 'new' on sink-input #358
Event 'change' on sink-input #358"
As for journald i have a lot of such errors, but they don't
пн, 11 мар. 2024 г. в 07:50, Max Nikulin :
>
> Are there anything in journalctl output (executed as root) around these
> events?
>
I guess that no, but i will recheck.
> Is XFCE configured to use pulseaudio or PipeWire as GNOME?
>
Pulseaudio
> Another option might be LC3 codec from Bluetooth
Hello! I have a problem with sound quality when using bluetooth headphones
on Debian 12 GNOME.
Every ~20 minutes, sometimes less, sometimes more, sound interrupts for a
1-5 seconds with complete silence.
At first I thought that problem can be in the headphones, though it have
worked fine with And
On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 10:48 PM Xiyue Deng wrote:
>
> You can check the developer page of zfs-linux[1] on which the "action
> needed" section has information about security issues (along with
> version info as Gareth posted). The one you mentioned was being tr
kills failed?
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Good Morning,
yesterday we installed Debian 11 on our raspberry pi3's as part of our
Youth Programming Course and cannot login. Thank you in advance
Greetings,
Schröder
Hi
I am searching for a good tutorial for setting up Gnome and KDE as my
desktops with a screen at the start to choose which one I want today /
this start.
Can anybody give me the link to a good one?
Best, Jan
> On 18 Oct 2020, at 04:06, Weaver wrote:
>
> On 18-10-2020 11:42, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>> Le 17 octobre 2020 23:03:22 GMT+02:00, Weaver a
>> écrit :
>
> And now we go another step further: with double postings into my inbox.
> Why don't you massage your petit ego requirements on some
2020, 11:23 Jan Wilmans wrote:
> If you look carefully of the last page, the radio button for writing the
> boot record to disk is by default is to ,NOT write the boot record. You
> have to change it to 'yes' before you continue!
>
> If you dont, then ofcourse it reboots an
If you look carefully of the last page, the radio button for writing the
boot record to disk is by default is to ,NOT write the boot record. You
have to change it to 'yes' before you continue!
If you dont, then ofcourse it reboots and since nothing changed in the boot
sequence it boots the iso aga
On 7/12/19 12:55 pm, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
On 3/12/19 8:42 pm, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
Just wondering if this is ALL good advice?
Should I use it for ALL my mail, or just sensitive stuff, like
lobbying politicians.
I'm still here. Have had a couple of questions that have gotten me
thi
Thanks to everybody, for all the hints.
I think the way to search in, is to create an edid file and load it at boot.
I searched in this direction before, I just abandoned that way because it did
not work.
Now the question I have is: How to create that edid file.
The tool I found creates a file i
Dear Charles,
On Monday, September 9, 2019, 1:55:06 PM GMT+2, Charles Curley wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:20:37+ (UTC) Jan Michael Greiner wrote:
>> With Debian Stretch (9.8) I had the display running with 3840x2160
>> resolution at 24Hz reduced blank.
>>
On Thu, 2019-05-09 at 09:56 +, Curt wrote:
> In the event there is no functional motherboard speaker, I guess it
> cannot be a BIOS alarm of any kind.
Some on-board audio chips are wired up so that they can emulate old
school IBM PC compatible motherboard speakers/buzzers.
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x27;t been involved with the PulseAudio
project for almost 10 years).
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On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 00:42 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 02:34:30AM +0200, Jan Claeys wrote:
> > Why not use a dynamic DNS provider?
> >
> >
> Primarily because it wouldn't solve my problem. IIUC it would allow
> me to map a domain name
the IP address has changed. What I'd like to do now is make a
> means for the LFS box to be able to notify me of the fact that the
> external-facing IP address has changed.
Why not use a dynamic DNS provider?
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On Fri, 2019-04-05 at 15:30 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 05 Apr 2019 at 21:34:15 (+0200), Jan Claeys wrote:
> > Another well-known one is GParted, which doesn't really have an
> > alternative for people to use instead...
>
> Does parted not do the same things?
the “right” xhost
setting (requires a small shell script to start Synaptic that way).
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Another well-known one is GParted, which doesn't really have an
alternative for people to use instead...
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where university
educations are expensive, of course, but I don't know if there exist
any such scholarships right now. Maybe someone else knows more about
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Did you get a chance to review my previous email? Let me know if we can
schedule a call to discuss further.
Look forward to hearing back
Regards,
Jan
From: Jan Obadiah
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 9:15 AM
To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
Subject: Broadcasting Industry
Hi,
ther Apple will fix OS X El Capitan to fully support TLSv1.2, or users
will stop using 9-year-old laptops that cannot be upgraded any further than
that OS X version. (But why chuck a perfectly working computer??)
Thanks again for your help,
Jan
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Thanks,
Jan
.1 be enabled?
Thanks,
Jan
eed best disk
performance - if we wanted that, we would have gone for ssd's. :)
br,
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endency to brick itself, if it sees its uuid on multiple disks
at the same time (md-raid1))
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onsider going
md-raid+luks+btrfs.
* Unsure if it still holds that btrfs will fail horribly if it sees its
uuid on more than one disk, possibly making the
full-disk-encryption-layer mandatory.
br,
Jan
On 12/26/17 20:37, Rick Thomas wrote:
>
> Is btrfs mature enough to use in enterprise app
s -tuck all
# reboot
Will either insta-boot with the usb stick accessible, or ask for a
passphrase, and systemd wont complain.
Thats what I wanted for myself and it seems to work as expected...
Just wanted to share this. Maybe this will help someone in the future. :)
br,
Jan
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On 28.11.2017 17:58, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2017-11-28 at 11:53, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 10:28:57 -0500 The Wanderer
wrote:
I've run across someone who says her machine is running Debian
oldoldoldstable or maybe even oldoldoldoldstable, and who
consequently can't upgrade
at mount without any success.
Does anyone have any ideas on this?
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n the UI.
before I found Atom I loved Kate very much and I still like mcedit in the
Console and via ssh.
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The add-on Tab Mix Plus has an option under Menu to add "Reload every ..." to
the tab's context menu. The add-on may be overkill if you just want that reload
option, but I do know it works.
Kind regards
Jan
24.07.2017, 14:56, "Steve Kleene" :
> I'
=ssh ruser= rhost=d.local.lan
> user=root
>
> Jun 11 14:50:57 d2 sshd[2830]: Failed password for root from
> 127.0.0.1 port 54522 ssh2
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> Synchronizing state for cups.service with sysvinit using update-rc.d...
> Executing /usr/sbin/update-rc.d cups defaults
> Executing /usr/sbin/update-rc.d cups enable
> [01;31mraspberrypi:/home/pi#[m exit
>
> Script done on Sun 11 Jun 2017 11:37:49 AM EDT
Good luck,
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while a VM that runs Debian Jessie does not.
Hence I'm sending this email to the debian-users list...
Suggestions much appreciated.
kind regards,
Jan
.
>
> Now, I know with LFS, you get to choose everything, etc. But is a
> choice of init at install time so outrageous that no one ever
> considered it or is it technically unfeasible or something else.
>
> Just curious.
>
> B
Till then,
se /etc" and changed all the files to the
> mail.example.com
> <http://mail.example.com> name and then ran the "update-exim4.conf"
>
> if you reply, please CC me directly because it is hard to find messages in
> this list
> because of the high volume.
>
maybe i should try other encryption methods of router
>
> Thank those who reply!
ca.
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in Linux?
> I don't have kde or gnome, is there any GUI tool that make it easy and
> not rely on kde/gnome?
> the installer may have some nice program that config wireless?
> should i reinstall debian??
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I would love to get your feedback about KISS Ebook.
Jan
Hi Pascal,
On 28/11/16 12:48, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 27/11/2016 à 21:02, Jan Bakuwel a écrit :
>>
>> On 26/11/16 11:01, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>>>
>>> When embedding is not possible, the core image is stored as a regular
>>> file in /boot/grub. Th
Hi Pascal,
Thanks for responding.
On 26/11/16 11:01, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 25/11/2016 à 19:31, Jan Bakuwel a écrit :
>>
>> For reasons beyond my understanding grub complains about being
>> installed in a partition instead of the MBR ("embedding is not
>> s
sions, new boot loader
without affecting the "master boot loader".
Hopefully update-grub as Alexandre suggested will add Windows to the grub menu.
hope this helps,
Jan
predecessors (Alix) for years, now using
APU's where higher speeds are required, all running Debian out of the box.
These never missed a beat. They also have a SATA port if you'd like to use it
as a NAS as well.
SSD is great if you can afford them. They also work with cheaper SD cards.
regards,
Jan
Hi Henrique,
On 23/10/16 02:40, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2016, Jan Bakuwel wrote:
>> Does anyone know if it's possible to disable passive mode on an AP? It
>> is possible to set the SSID to hidden but this does not stop the
>> broadcasts, it j
will result in no EMR when wifi is not
in use, in other words AP will only listen not transmit in that case,
yet wifi is available when needed.
Jan
Hi,
I was wondering if the security updates in 5.6.25 and 5.6.26 might make it
into Jessie soon, does anyone know why there is a delay?
It's of course possible to use dotdeb's packages, but I prefer the official
update path.
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systems, which
only function is to chainload one of a few other operating systems. That
way I don't have to throw away my old boots before I try the new.
Installing Jessie on that 1G partition is only possible if the only
thing I select during install is the SSH server.
The other thing you may want to have a look at is the output on tty4
(Alt F4), perhaps that reveals why grub is not able to finish.
cheers,
Jan
Hi,
Does anyone know via which mailing list I can reach the makers of the
Xen netboot images?
thanks,
Jan
ecause the bit isn't set.
>
> What's the right fix? I could setuid it but then if I understand
> correctly it might get changed back by an upgrade. Does it use
> capabilites or something?
This is not you not being able to execute ping but ping not being able
to ping.
Check your firewall rules.
cheers,
Jan
se netboot images are part of the official
debian installer?
kind regards,
Jan
_acpi: Disabling thinkpad-acpi brightness events by default...
thinkpad_acpi: Standard ACPI backlight interface available, not loading
native one
Any ideas why the indicator may show this sluggish behaviour (which I
expect to be the reason for the keyboard malfunction)?
jan
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formatted cannot be read and should be written to spare area. So far I
found only -M option for growisofs that should add data to existing session.
Thanks,
Jan
Hello,
I tried to burn data to rest of the blu ray disc, that failed and use
speed=2.
At first it failed with original 25GB image, it was solved by excluding
some files and burn only 24GB.
Executing 'builtin_dd if=mybluray-disc.udf of=/dev/sr0 obs=32k seek=0'
:-( /dev/sr0: 12088320 blocks are
Did you experienced same also on other OS or you can write reliably at
higher speed outside linux ?
Thanks,
Jan
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 8:31 AM Dominique Dumont wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 March 2016 06:56:11 Jan Gregor wrote:
> > For burning I used growisofs with -Z /dev/sr0=image argu
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 8:25 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Jan Gregor wrote:
> > does anybody uses this burner in debian jessie ?
>
> I don't have this burner, but i am interested in such problems in general.
>
>
> > So far I was succesful with burn
.
For burning I used growisofs with -Z /dev/sr0=image argument only. Can you
recommend arguments to growisofs or some configuration to the drive to
minimize number of wasted bd-r media ?
Thanks,
Jan
Hello,
I used /etc/mtab to list mounted filesystems with their mount options.
Unfortunatelly /etc/mtab no longer exists in debian jessie, it is just
symlink to /proc/mounts that lists 31 filesystems and I want to see just 2
:-) classic filesystems like ext4, fat, btrfs only.
Thanks,
Jan
Hi Lisi,
On 12/04/2015 07:07 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
I think they do two grades now. The more expensive ones are reputed still to
be good.
Mine cost 1400 euro. That must be the better quality businessline. Yet
it's build-quelity is terrible.
And a casing broken in BOTH corners in the first few
On 12/04/2015 05:28 AM, Erick Ocrospoma wrote:
I currently have one T440p Lenovo. It's a rock solid, with a nice
keyboard. In depends mostly on
your needs, T series are for long usage (uptime). Supported on Linux,
I've played here with Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora.
I currently have a t430s, but
On 10/21/2015 01:17 PM, mourik jan heupink wrote:
This sounds exactly as the solution we're using. Only we backup up to
a freenas device, using rsync, zfs and it's snapshots. Using 4*6TB WD
disks in a raidz2 config. Allowing for two disks to die at the same
time without data loss. T
Yes, we do use pretty much the setup you describe, i.e. rsync push to
backup server, btrfs volume with daily snapshot subvolumes on the
server. This particular setup has been in use for more than two years by
now, and is working well with 8-10 servers (totals for all backed-up
I am not sure. But, how old is this reform? I have used voltmeters more
than once, and have always read 220V. But, I have not had to find
failures in an installation since at least few years, maybe 5-6 (which
is a long time when you still are not 30 years old, so I'm not sure
about how many years
On 12/15/2014 11:36, Erwan David wrote:
Europe is officialy 230 V, which with the allowed interval around the
nominal value permitted to accept continental 220 V and UK 240 V.
Yes, that's exactly my understanding of things here at the moment.
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Hi,
berenger.morel writes:
In France, the electric network provide 220V to everyone.
Are you sure? Starting from 2000 or so, the whole of europe has
gradually changed to 230v, as a compromise between UK (240v) and the
rest of europe (220v).
MJ
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On 12/08/2014 08:40 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
When I set up a system such as this I always test afterward that the
system can be booted from each disk individually. Don't boot past
grub. Just boot to grub to verify. If you boot past grub into a
degraded raid system it will create a "split brain"
Dear Sir / Madam,
Please provide further information regarding pricing etc.
Thank you for your attention.
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On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Bob Holtzman wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 01:47:50PM +0200, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote:
>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:06 PM, basti wrote:
>> > Actually I get some spam from "84.19.164.45"but this ip is not blocked
>> > at the
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On 2/20/2014 6:29, titantopp...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi list,
Has anyone tried upgrading to the more current Samba4 package
(https://packages.debian.org/jessie/samba), which is at 4.1.4?
For your information: we are running the sernet samba packages here. No
idea about the upgrade path you are
Hi,
Anyone here running an STORAGEWORKS ULTRIUM 3000 LTO5 tape streamer
connected via an LSI SAS3801E HBA? (on debian wheezy x64)
Our current HP Ultrium 920 SAS LTO3 works perfectly over this card. Just
wondering if I can expect the later generation LTO5 to work as well,
over the same SAS ca
Hi Henrique, Darac, list,
I am currently talking with support from our firewall solution (astaro),
because it seems that astaro drops the initial second query. (the A
query goes through, and the query is dropped by astaro, without a
log entry or other notification)
So it looks like a bu
Hi all,
We are seeing strange delays in dns resolving with apt-get and wget.
Tried various public dns servers (for example google dns, opendns)
I used tcpdump to see what actually happens, and we found out that
apt-get makes two requests for security.debian.org:
standard query A
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standard q
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