Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-27 Thread Jamin Collins
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:53:14PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:26:50AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > > The Debian packaging system only understands progress and not > > > necissarily the ramifications of such. This could very easily be > > > fixed and allow for mul

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-27 Thread Jamin Collins
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:02:29AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Wow, you mean like the one in experimental already? That's quite some > daring proposal. :-) I _never_ claimed that it was original, or daring. I simply indicated that it was a means of getting the new version in that would work with t

Re: smartsuite obsolete?

2003-03-26 Thread Jamin Collins
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:18:24AM -0600, Brian McGroarty wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 06:02:04PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:02:38PM -0600, Brian McGroarty wrote: > > > > > smartsuite has gone missing from all but woody. Is there a reason? > > > > Looks like

Re: Good open source primer?

2003-03-25 Thread Jamin Collins
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 01:47:57PM -0500, stan wrote: > Somewhere in the middle of the discussion, it became quite clear that > he simply _did not understand_ the concept of obtaining a peice of > software that he did not have to pay for :-( (snip) > I would like to provide him with a gentle in

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-24 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 12:46:16PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Nevermind that my "change X" or "rework X" is at the exact same level > of the explanation you've given your solution. Difference is, it is > already coded. I've thrown out several ideas. > > Modify the behavior of epoch. > Inclu

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-24 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 12:43:19PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:35:34 -0600 Jamin Collins > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Because epoch's already have a use, which is different from what you > > describe. You're suggesting tacking new fu

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-24 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 10:30:44AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:36:29 -0600 > Jamin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Great, I'll get right on that. Oh wait, there no indication of how. > > Sure, we can just "change" the packagi

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-24 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 10:28:41AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:26:38 -0600 Jamin Collins > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No it's not. Version number indicate a progression of an > > application, they have no indication of "major difference

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-24 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 08:15:56AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:37:54 -0600 Jamin Collins > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you've got another viable option, I'm sure we'd love to hear it. > > U, update the packaging sy

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-24 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 08:14:28AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:35:17 -0600 Jamin Collins > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is not just about version numbers, it's about handling major > > differences between two releases, regardl

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-24 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 04:36:17AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Yes, it is a matter of preference. However, since when was preference > a matter of /policy/. I am pointing out that there appears to be no > policy in regards to when a version number is attached to the name of > the package. And th

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-24 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 04:39:40AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > The question at hand is why people believe the only appropriate > behavior is to place the version number into the package name and not > to figure out a way to handle it with the version field or some other > field so that it is transp

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-21 Thread Jamin Collins
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 12:50:16PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > I think the main reason why Debian is still on the 3.x series is > because it is the default mailer for Debian and with the 4.x series > Exim broke config file compatibility. I remember reading somewhere > that because of that combinat

Re: Really Confused

2003-03-18 Thread Jamin Collins
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 04:31:18PM -0500, Bill wrote: > I currently have Debian 2.2 R7 I3 installed and I am not sure what > release I have whether its stable or unstable. Debian 2.2 would be the _old_ stable (aka potato). > I have been trying to get the NVidia Drivers working on it and people >

Re: Firewall/init scripts problem

2003-03-17 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 02:17:38PM +0100, Aaron Isotton wrote: > On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 05:05, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > > Is there something particular that you dislike about this method? > > Or, is it in some way lacking? > > What I liked about using iptables-save and iptables-restore is that

Re: setting up iptables

2003-03-14 Thread Jamin Collins
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 12:27:29AM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > Well, it seems "google is your friend" is used extensivly trough this > mailing list. I tried my best to make friends with him and to find a > sample iptables config file, with no success. Ahhh, but did you try "apt-cache search ipta

Re: Mozilla stops accepting typed input

2003-03-13 Thread Jamin Collins
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 12:40:51PM -0800, Martin J. Hillyer wrote: > I'm having an irritating problem with Mozilla. After what appears to > be a random length of time (often very short, eg, after one entry), it > stops accepting typing in, for example, the address box, or in a > google text input

Re: LAPTOPS

2003-03-10 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:32:36PM -0400, james leclair wrote: > Hello, you guys have been very helpful in the past so heres another > one for yus! I'm about to take the plunge and pick up a laptop. My > first laptop in a number of years. So, what, if any, suggestions > comments or what have y

Re: Quiet cases (was Re: buy or build computer?)

2003-03-10 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 06:18:24PM +, Joao Pedro Clemente wrote: > > > Can you recommend any good (not too expensive) quiet cases? I may > > build a computer soon to be my home grown PVR/DVD combo, and of > > course anything sitting in the living room on all the time needs to > > be quiet. >

Re: Firewalling under Debian

2003-03-03 Thread Jamin Collins
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 12:11:12AM +1100, bob parker wrote: > My son's proposed network is to be this: > > Firewall / NAT / Gateway machine connected to cable using 1 nic. > Connects to hardware router / switch using 2nd nic. No need for an additional router, the Linux firewall can provide this f

Re: Firewalling under Debian

2003-03-03 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 05:36:54AM -0800, Jeremy T. Bouse wrote: > Well if you have atleast one machine running with X11 you could > install Firewall Builder (fwbuilder)[1] which has a relatively straight > forward GUI that will allow you to drag and drop to create the rules you > want for t