Good idea!
On Thu, 8 May 2025, David Christensen wrote:
Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 11:10:06 -0700
From: David Christensen
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian 12 not booting after upgrade
Resent-Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 18:10:28 + (UTC)
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On 2025-05-08 08:37, Richard Owlett wrote:
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On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 06:38:57PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
[...]
> I'm interested in this topic, so I've done a little research
> online. Many folks look at energy consumption in terms of CO2
> emissions, as a useful proxy for direct energy use.
Thanks for the links! I'm interested in this
I've worked out the cause of the problem, and the weirdness of the
apparent solution.
I broke both shoulder blades in a recent fall. In particular, I still
can't raise my right hand onto the mouse pad on the right side of my
keyboard, and there's no space for one on the left. So I put my
wireless
On Thursday 08 May 2025 12:42:38 pm gene heskett wrote:
>
> On 5/8/25 09:33, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 09:27:54AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> So, iiuc, one mouse works properly, and the other does not. My first
> >> suspect
> >> would be the
Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity than
>> something small and more recent might use.
>
> While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
> a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAIK the embedded energy
> in a lapto
Thomas Dineen wrote:
This whole thread is INSANE!!!
Old computers of this generation are so slow that they would be
USELESS!
On 5/8/25 11:16 AM, Charles Curley wrote:
Well, yes. But the original question was whether one could install
Debian on it, not whether it would be useful to do so.
On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 10:53:26AM -0700, Thomas Dineen wrote:
> This whole thread is INSANE!!!
What is this with some people wanting to prescribe others what
to do?
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On Thu, 8 May 2025 10:53:26 -0700
Thomas Dineen wrote:
> This whole thread is INSANE!!!
>
> Old computers of this generation are so slow that they would be
> USELESS!
Well, yes. But the original question was whether one could install
Debian on it, not whether it would be useful to do so. People
On 5/7/25 20:38, xuser wrote:
On Wed, 7 May 2025, Charles Curley wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 02:51:20 + (UTC)
xuser wrote:
After an libreoffice upgrade on may 7, My debian system does not
boot, and just shows the word "GRUB" on a black screen.
I doubt it was the libreoffice upgrade that d
On 5/8/25 7:05 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAIK the embedded energy
in a laptop (i.e. the energy that was necessary to produce the laptop)
is typically higher than all the electricity
monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote:
>> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity than
>> something small and more recent might use.
>
>While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
>a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAIK the embedded energy
>in
This whole thread is INSANE!!!
Old computers of this generation are so slow that they would be USELESS!
Too slow to run modern applications!
Memory is too small, Hard Drive is way t small.
On 5/5/2025 1:01 PM, Rafał Lichwała wrote:
Hi,
Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OL
On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 10:05:03AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity than
something small and more recent might use.
While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAI
On 02/05/2025 02:34, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 01 May 2025 at 20:04:56 (+0200), Bernard wrote:
On 01/05/2025 06:10, David Wright wrote:
I could suggest that you reinstall the library file packages if
that didn't happen when you reinstalled vlc, but it's perfectly
possible that the Debian ver
On 5/8/25 09:33, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 09:27:54AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
So, iiuc, one mouse works properly, and the other does not. My first suspect
would be the mouse hardware.
If the problem mouse is the wireless one, I'd also suspect the driver
So how much energy has this thread wasted?
On 5/8/2025 9:33 AM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 04:41:07PM +0100,debian-u...@howorth.org.uk
wrote:
Greg wrote:
older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity
than something small and more rece
wrote:
> On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 04:41:07PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk
> wrote:
> > Greg wrote:
> > > >> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity
> > > >> than something small and more recent might use.
> > > >
> > > > While that's obviously good, that doesn't
On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 04:41:07PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Greg wrote:
> > >> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity
> > >> than something small and more recent might use.
> > >
> > > While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
Greg wrote:
> >> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity
> >> than something small and more recent might use.
> >
> > While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
> > a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAIK the embedded
> > energy in a
xuser composed on 2025-05-08 14:59 (UTC):
> I guess the old re-install will always work :)
You should be able to boot your installed Bookworm using Bookworm installation
media, then diagnose and repair whatever went wrong. Is yours a UEFI
installation?
Is it your exclusive OS installation on the
>> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity than
>> something small and more recent might use.
>
> While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
> a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAIK the embedded energy
> in a laptop (i.e. the energy t
On Thu May 8, 2025 at 3:39 PM BST, Antonio Russo wrote:
I can see my message on the debian-user list (and did so almost
immediately), so it's got to be something specific to debian-devel.
It's possible that -devel is currently being moderated; it didn't used
to be, but some lists are/were, and
Good points!
On Thursday, May 08, 2025 09:32:40 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 09:27:54AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > So, iiuc, one mouse works properly, and the other does not. My first
> > suspect would be the mouse hardware.
> >
> > If the problem
I guess the old re-install will always work :)
On Thu, 8 May 2025, Geert Stappers wrote:
Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 06:36:26 +0200
From: Geert Stappers
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian 12 not booting after upgrade
Resent-Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 04:36:42 + (UTC)
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> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity than
> something small and more recent might use.
While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAIK the embedded energy
in a laptop (i.e. the energy that was nec
On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 09:27:54AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
> So, iiuc, one mouse works properly, and the other does not. My first suspect
> would be the mouse hardware.
>
> If the problem mouse is the wireless one, I'd also suspect the driver for the
> wireless mouse.
Or the b
> On Thu 8 may, 2025, at 04:01, Van Snyder wrote:
> > I have two mice: One is wireless, the other USB, both Logitech.
> >
> > Suddenly today, the buttons started deciding on their own what they
> > meant. For example, the left button in the center of a Firefox tab
> > closed the tab instead of "to
Michael Stone wrote:
> On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 03:12:51PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>>NetBSD is a possibility:
>
> Yeah, I'd go with NetBSD as the most useful option. They're the project
> most likely to keep i386 going. FreeBSD is dropping it as are most of
> the linux distros. But honestl
On Thu 8 may, 2025, at 04:01, Van Snyder wrote:
> I have two mice: One is wireless, the other USB, both Logitech.
>
> Suddenly today, the buttons started deciding on their own what they meant.
> For example, the left button in the center of a Firefox tab closed the tab
> instead of "topping" it. T
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