Re: PC recommendations for Debian 12

On Thu, 24 Apr 2025, jeremy ardley wrote: > On 24/4/25 13:03, Gareth Evans wrote: > > I would prefer to buy one off the shelf than build my own, but that's an > > option too. > You can go to Dell but when you look into the actual specs you end up paying > a > lot more to get something that fits

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 11:32:23AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 24/4/25 10:31, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > By the way, PDF files may be tagged for screen readers. Is there a > > dedicated structure to explicitly mark tables? It would be the best > > source for data extraction. > > > ISO 14

Re: Gnome to XFCE

On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 7:27 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 3:02 PM David Wright > wrote: > > > > On Wed 23 Apr 2025 at 14:25:38 (-0400), Eben King wrote: > > > I have a computer called "alexandria". Usually I log in via SSH. I > > > only log in at the console when it's bro

Re: PC recommendations for Debian 12

On 24/4/25 13:22, jeremy ardley wrote: I do not recommend SSD drives. Go straight to nvme and select long life ones. Speed is not so important as your limiting factor is LAN speed. Then get one or more Western Digital Red hard drives (accept no substitutes) . These can provide your NAS storag

Re: PC recommendations for Debian 12

On 24/4/25 13:03, Gareth Evans wrote: I would prefer to buy one off the shelf than build my own, but that's an option too. You can go to Dell but when you look into the actual specs you end up paying a lot more to get something that fits your need. I have just gone through the exercise t

Re: Configure a "widows" key on a 102-key keyboard

Hello, On 4/24/25 01:24, Van Snyder wrote: > On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 17:04 -0500, David Wright wrote: >> On Wed 23 Apr 2025 at 13:52:07 (-0700), Van Snyder wrote: >>> On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 14:26 -0500, David Wright wrote:   XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch,compose:caps,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" >>> >

PC recommendations for Debian 12

I'm based in the UK and am looking for a new PC to use as a NAS with the capacity for at least two NVMe/SSD drives. I note many mini PCs seem to limit the upgradable/installable SSD to 2TB. Can anyone recommend a make or model of any kind (mini, desktop, tower etc) with which they have had good

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 23/04/2025 09:56, jeremy ardley wrote: On 23/4/25 10:37, Max Nikulin wrote: Accidentally I have noticed [...] I have not tried it [...] One underlying problem with tabular data in pdf is the order the text is encoded.

Re: How to extract TABULAR data from a PDF document?

On 24/4/25 10:31, Max Nikulin wrote: By the way, PDF files may be tagged for screen readers. Is there a dedicated structure to explicitly mark tables? It would be the best source for data extraction. ISO 14289 is an accessibility standard for PDF. It allows for the creation of a "Tagged

Re: Self compiling entire Bookworm DVD-1

On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 9:27 AM Nils wrote: > > I'd like to compile all of DVD-1 myself but using `-Oz` to optimize for binary > size rather than speed. How do I do that? Where do I start? I could only find > infos on how to build DVD-1 yourself using existing binary packages... For the kernel, t

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

On 24/04/2025 03:54, Van Snyder wrote: I ran "apt update" and it said "nothing to see here; move on." So I pushed the little button in the tool tray with the little red dot and Discover said there were 250 updates occupying 454 MB. What does apt list --upgradable say (or "apt list '~U'"

Re: [Bookworm] ZFS shutdown

On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 5:55 PM Greg wrote: > Hi there, > > What is the proper way of shutting down ZFS? After: > > # /etc/init.d/zfs-share stop > # /etc/init.d/zfs-mount stop > # /etc/init.d/zfs-import stop > > pool 'backup' is not mounted but: > > # zpool export backup > cannot export 'backup':

Re: R: Grub problem

On 4/23/25 18:07, Pier Antonio Corradini wrote: I tried everything: the BIOS does not see any hard disk (single or in pair with its own twin) if you do not first configure, in the LSI environment, either a RAID 0 So it is some kind of LSI RAID card. What Brand? model? Some of that info shou

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 at 20:54, Van Snyder wrote: > > KDE discover put a popup on my screen saying there are updates available. > > I ran "apt update" and it said "nothing to see here; move on." > > So I pushed the little button in the tool tray with the little red dot > and Discover said there were

Re: Configure a "widows" key on a 102-key keyboard

On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 17:04 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 23 Apr 2025 at 13:52:07 (-0700), Van Snyder wrote: > > On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 14:26 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > >   > > > XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch,compose:caps,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" > > > > xev says the Windows key is known to

Re: [Bookworm] ZFS shutdown

On 4/23/25 16:21, David Christensen wrote: On 4/23/25 14:49, Greg wrote: Hi there, What is the proper way of shutting down ZFS? After: # /etc/init.d/zfs-share stop # /etc/init.d/zfs-mount stop # /etc/init.d/zfs-import stop pool 'backup' is not mounted but: # zpool export backup cannot export

Re: [Bookworm] ZFS shutdown

On 4/23/25 14:49, Greg wrote: Hi there, What is the proper way of shutting down ZFS? After: # /etc/init.d/zfs-share stop # /etc/init.d/zfs-mount stop # /etc/init.d/zfs-import stop pool 'backup' is not mounted but: # zpool export backup cannot export 'backup': pool is busy How it is possible

R: Grub problem

I tried everything: the BIOS does not see any hard disk (single or in pair with its own twin) if you do not first configure, in the LSI environment, either a RAID 0 (when there is only one hard disk) or a RAID 1 (when there are two hard disks). Leaving Debian 12 to do the partitioning does not c

Re: Grub problem

So, is this md raid1, or true hardware RAID-1? If it's md raid1: MBR system - boot block should be installed to both drives, remainder is installed to the /boot filesystem (or / if there's no /boot filesystem) GPT - I'm not 100% sure (haven't looked into the details), but in that case, I think G

R: Grub problem

BIOS, legacy (it's a Phoenix Bios of 2011 that takes info form an LSI Software RAID Configuration Utility: Embedded MegaRAID SATA User's Guide ). Initially Debian 12 was installed without any problem and without RAID (i.e. with RAID

[Bookworm] ZFS shutdown

Hi there, What is the proper way of shutting down ZFS? After: # /etc/init.d/zfs-share stop # /etc/init.d/zfs-mount stop # /etc/init.d/zfs-import stop pool 'backup' is not mounted but: # zpool export backup cannot export 'backup': pool is busy How it is possible that it is not mounted but is s

Re: Self compiling entire Bookworm DVD-1

On Wed, 23 Apr 2025, Joe wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 10:58:52 + Nils wrote: Hey! I'd like to compile all of DVD-1 myself but using `-Oz` to optimize for binary size rather than speed. How do I do that? Where do I start? I could only find infos on how to build DVD-1 yourself using existing

Re: Configure a "widows" key on a 120-key keyboard

On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 13:55 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 23 Apr 2025 at 11:48:49 (-0700), Van Snyder wrote: > > On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 12:40 -0400, Eben King wrote: > > > On 4/23/25 11:01, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > > > When I had an IBM clicky keyboard, I think I got the same > > > > e

apt update vs. KDE Discover?

KDE discover put a popup on my screen saying there are updates available. I ran "apt update" and it said "nothing to see here; move on." So I pushed the little button in the tool tray with the little red dot and Discover said there were 250 updates occupying 454 MB.

Re: Configure a "widows" key on a 102-key keyboard

On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 14:26 -0500, David Wright wrote: >   XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch,compose:caps,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" xev says the Windows key is known to X as "Menu." XKBOPTIONS="pause:menu" didn't work. Yes, I did reboot after editing /etc/default/keyboard.

Re: Configure a "widows" key on a 120-key keyboard

On Wed 23 Apr 2025 at 12:01:57 (-0700), Van Snyder wrote: > On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 13:55 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 23 Apr 2025 at 11:48:49 (-0700), Van Snyder wrote: > > > On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 12:40 -0400, Eben King wrote: > > > > On 4/23/25 11:01, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > > > >

Re: Gnome to XFCE

On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 3:02 PM David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 23 Apr 2025 at 14:25:38 (-0400), Eben King wrote: > > I have a computer called "alexandria". Usually I log in via SSH. I > > only log in at the console when it's broken so that networking doesn't > > work, and even then I almost alwa

Re: Self compiling entire Bookworm DVD-1

On 23/04/2025 11:58, Nils wrote: Hey! I'd like to compile all of DVD-1 myself but using `-Oz` to optimize for binary size rather than speed. How do I do that? Where do I start? I could only find infos on how to build DVD-1 yourself using existing binary packages... Thank you! Do you need the DV

Re: Gnome to XFCE

Eben King wrote: > I have a computer called "alexandria". Usually I log in via SSH. I only > log in at the console when it's broken so that networking doesn't work, and > even then I almost always use a text console. So I very rarely need X, but > still want it there to use if I need it. Howev

Re: Configure a "widows" key on a 120-key keyboard

On Wed 23 Apr 2025 at 11:48:49 (-0700), Van Snyder wrote: > On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 12:40 -0400, Eben King wrote: > > On 4/23/25 11:01, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > When I had an IBM clicky keyboard, I think I got the same effect > > > as a windows key from holding down both Ctrl and Alt. > > Th

Re: Configure a "widows" key on a 120-key keyboard

On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 12:40 -0400, Eben King wrote: > On 4/23/25 11:01, David Wright wrote: > > > > When I had an IBM clicky keyboard, I think I got the same effect > > as a windows key from holding down both Ctrl and Alt. That doesn't open the KDE menu for me. The real question is "how do I map

Gnome to XFCE

I have a computer called "alexandria". Usually I log in via SSH. I only log in at the console when it's broken so that networking doesn't work, and even then I almost always use a text console. So I very rarely need X, but still want it there to use if I need it. However it would be nice if

Re: Configure a "widows" key on a 120-key keyboard

On 4/23/25 11:01, David Wright wrote: When I had an IBM clicky keyboard, I think I got the same effect as a windows key from holding down both Ctrl and Alt. Does that remove the ability to type ctrl+alt+whatever?

Re: Configure a "widows" key on a 120-key keyboard

On Tue 22 Apr 2025 at 19:00:25 (-0700), Van Snyder wrote: > I use an IBM PS-2 keyboard, the kind with 102 keys, and therefore no > "Windows" key. > > How do I set up a windows key, for example "Pause" or "Ctrl-Pause"? > > I tried > > XKBOPTIONS=Pause:Menu > > and > > XKBOPTIONS=pause:menu > >

Mariadb syntax error in existing triggers after 12.10 point release update

After installing 12.10 point release existing databases started to give syntax errors on existing triggers, when using FOR VAR IN NEW.FIELD1..NEW.FIELD2 DO loop. It works, when there are spaces around ".." - like: FOR VAR IN NEW.FIELD1 .. NEW.FIELD2 DO It also still works without spaces,

Re: Self compiling entire Bookworm DVD-1

On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 01:26:44PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 10:58:52 + > Nils wrote: > > > Hey! > > > > I'd like to compile all of DVD-1 myself but using `-Oz` to optimize > > for binary size rather than speed. How do I do that? Where do I > > start? I could only find infos on

Self compiling entire Bookworm DVD-1

Hey! I'd like to compile all of DVD-1 myself but using `-Oz` to optimize for binary size rather than speed. How do I do that? Where do I start? I could only find infos on how to build DVD-1 yourself using existing binary packages... Thank you!