Re: Debian News before 2022 have disappeared

Forwarded this thread there now too Den tors 2 jan. 2025 kl 23:27 skrev Andy Smith : > > Hi, > > On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 04:54:53PM +0100, Jean-Claude Arbaut wrote: > > I just noticed some of my browser favorites pointing to Debian News ( > > http://www.debian.org/News/...) are now dead. I seems a

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computerarrivingsoon]

On 1/2/25 21:32, Max Nikulin wrote: On 03/01/2025 05:01, gene heskett wrote: sudo apt install sgdisk unforch sgdisk does not appear to be available on armbian. Suitable substitute? Display is wayland so X is out. root not allowed. Gene, have you tried to type this command name into a search

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computerarrivingsoon]

On 1/2/25 17:16, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Gene, On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 05:01:19PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 1/2/25 10:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: sudo apt install sgdisk unforch sgdisk does not appear to be available on armbian. Can you remind us why you do not ask the Armbian folks how

Re: new computer arriving soon

On 1/2/25 21:20, mick.crane wrote: On 2025-01-01 21:46, gene heskett wrote: On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote: On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100 poc...@homemail.com wrote: [...] In fact I'm sure you've noticed that help is often offered to users of other systems, but tentatively and with warnings th

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 8:22 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 05:01:19PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On 1/2/25 10:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > sudo apt install sgdisk > > unforch sgdisk does not appear to be available on armbian. > > Can you remind us why you do not ask the

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

On 03/01/2025 05:01, gene heskett wrote: sudo apt install sgdisk unforch sgdisk does not appear to be available on armbian. Suitable substitute? Display is wayland so X is out. root not allowed. Gene, have you tried to type this command name into a search engine prompt? Have you read "man man

Re: new computer arriving soon

On 2025-01-01 21:46, gene heskett wrote: On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote: On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100 poc...@homemail.com wrote: [...] In fact I'm sure you've noticed that help is often offered to users of other systems, but tentatively and with warnings that it may not work. "Gene is a speci

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

On 2025-01-02 22:16, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Gene, On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 05:01:19PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 1/2/25 10:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > sudo apt install sgdisk unforch sgdisk does not appear to be available on armbian. Can you remind us why you do not ask the Armbian folks h

Re: new computer arriving soon

Hi, On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 10:34:47AM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:57 Michael Stone wrote: > > Spinning disks are slow; 8 hours for 3TB is about 100MB/s and 8h is > > about how much time I'd expect it to take to write a commodity disk that > > size. It becomes real

Re: new computer arriving soon

On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 10:18 Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 09:59:20AM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > >On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:46 fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > >> i managed a half dozen hp9000 servers with 200 2gb drives > >> lvm came in pretty handy :) > > I have no go

Re: new computer arriving soon

On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:57 Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > >I once used/tested with RAID 6 and was amazed how long it took to rebuild a > >3TB swapped hard drive (about 8 hours, if I recall). (This was using an Intel 8 port SAS/SATA

Re: new computer arriving soon

On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 09:59:20AM +1100, George at Clug wrote: On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:46 fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: i managed a half dozen hp9000 servers with 200 2gb drives lvm came in pretty handy :) I have no good memories of hpux servers. :-D But yes, the linux LVM was inspired

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 11:24:10PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: But… do we really car? We kinda do when one person one person can generate 10% of list traffic and drive another 20%, especially if the results of all that traffic is basically nothing positive. (For year after year after year.)

Re: new computer arriving soon

On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 22:46:07 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > i managed a half dozen hp9000 servers with 200 2gb drives > lvm came in pretty handy :) To be fair, HP-UX did not have the concept of disk partitions. There was no msdos or gpt. Just "use the entire disk" or "use LVM on the

Re: new computer arriving soon

On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:46 fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jan 2025, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > >> LVM was introduced to allow extending storage by adding extra physical > >> drives. Storage space is allocated as

Re: new computer arriving soon

On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: I once used/tested with RAID 6 and was amazed how long it took to rebuild a 3TB swapped hard drive (about 8 hours, if I recall). Spinning disks are slow; 8 hours for 3TB is about 100MB/s and 8h is about how much time I'd expect i

Re: new computer arriving soon

On Friday, 03-01-2025 at 09:39 Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > >LVM was introduced to allow extending storage by adding extra physical > >drives. Storage space is allocated as virtualised storage, i.e. Logical > >Volumes. > > Yes and no

Re: new computer arriving soon

On Thu, 2 Jan 2025, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: >> LVM was introduced to allow extending storage by adding extra physical >> drives. Storage space is allocated as virtualised storage, i.e. Logical >> Volumes. > > Yes and no. LVM was intr

Re: new computer arriving soon

On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 10:04:51AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: I am unsure if grub images signed for Secure Boot include LVM drivers or /boot should be outside of LVM as well. grub should work fine these days without /boot being a separate partition, unless you encrypt / (in which case you need

Re: new computer arriving soon

On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: LVM was introduced to allow extending storage by adding extra physical drives. Storage space is allocated as virtualised storage, i.e. Logical Volumes. Yes and no. LVM was introduced to allow flexibility in how you assign space.

Re: SMTP servers

On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 06:28:47PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: I have been running my own inbound and outbound mail servers for over 30 years using ISP connections. The only time I ran into trouble was with gmail recently and only because of mismatched SPF records for a domain I host. You're

Re: Debian News before 2022 have disappeared

Hi, On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 04:54:53PM +0100, Jean-Claude Arbaut wrote: > I just noticed some of my browser favorites pointing to Debian News ( > http://www.debian.org/News/...) are now dead. I seems all news before maybe > 2022 have disappeared, while there were not so long ago (a few months > ma

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

Andy Smith (12025-01-02): > Can you remind us why you do not ask the Armbian folks how to use their > operating system instead of us poor uninformed Debian folks? But… do we really car? It is a staple of online mutual help forums that people who are rude and disparaging or people who post wrong a

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

Hi Gene, On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 05:01:19PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 1/2/25 10:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > sudo apt install sgdisk > unforch sgdisk does not appear to be available on armbian. Can you remind us why you do not ask the Armbian folks how to use their operating system inst

Re: Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arrivingsoon]

On 1/2/25 10:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 06:54:55PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4 ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are somewhat confusing, lacking the context that actual

Re: debian kernel compiler

Hi, > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 20:12:09 +0100, Istvan Toth wrote: > > I am attaching the nvidia make.log.I made the fah79 image deb package > > myself. It also included - linux-headers-6.1.119-fah79_6.1.119-1_amd64.deb Greg Wooledge wrote: > The log is quite large. I'm surprised the mailing list

Re: laptop for debian 12

On Wednesday 01 January 2025 09:35:53 pm hen...@privatembox.com wrote: > On 02.01.2025 03:07, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 00:36:15 +0100 > > hen...@privatembox.com wrote: > > > >> I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. > >> Can you suggest one for that purp

Re: laptop for debian 12

On Wednesday 01 January 2025 09:07:40 pm Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 00:36:15 +0100 > hen...@privatembox.com wrote: > > > I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. > > Can you suggest one for that purpose? > > Happy new year all debian members. > > https://www.

Re: "lists.debian.org - where can you help?" (Video)

On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 13:49:04 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > I wanted to respond with something like > . The link in the bot in #debian is . There may of course be others.

Re: debian kernel compiler

Hello Thomas, every time it's about newly built packages, because the .config file that I usually consider to be correct has not been able to compile properly. Regards

Re: "lists.debian.org - where can you help?" (Video)

On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 1:22 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > Perhaps not quite on topic but over the holiday period I watched this > presentation about lists.debian.org and found it very interesting. > > > https://berlin2024.mini.debconf.org/talks/12-listsdebianorg-where-can-you-help/ > > Or if y

Re: debian kernel compiler

Hi, Istvan Toth wrote: > when installing > the image the build module does not run during the short-term (30-40 minute) > compiler runtime (I attach it). > [...] > ~/kernel$ sudo dpkg -i linux-image-6.1.119-fah79_6.1.119-1_amd64.deb I might have misunderstood your problem description. I thought t

Re: debian kernel compiler

On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 17:11:10 +0100, Istvan Toth wrote: > ~/kernel$ sudo dpkg -i linux-image-6.1.119-fah79_6.1.119-1_amd64.deb > Selecting previously unselected package linux-image-6.1.119-fah79. > (Reading database ... 192934 files and directories currently installed.) > Preparing to unpack li

Re: debian kernel compiler

Hi Thomas, Thanks for your advice, no, there is no message, it seems that the header and image deb packages (header and image) are downloaded correctly. However, when dpkg -i extracts the header there is no problem, but when installing the image the build module does not run during the short-t

Re: new computer arriving soon

> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2025 at 10:38 AM > From: "Max Nikulin" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > Lookup Gene and networkmanager, > > Do you really believe it is a precise enough reference? M

Specific mdadm instructions for Gene [WAS Re: new computer arriving soon]

On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 06:54:55PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > > > Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to > > > > > > combine 4 > > > > > > ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are > > > > > > somewhat confusing, lacking the context that a

Re: new computer arriving soon

On 02/01/2025 10:41, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Lookup Gene and networkmanager, Do you really believe it is a precise enough reference? My impression is that despite NetworkManager can easily handle his cases, he often demonstrate unmotivated aggression against NetworkManager developers. The

Re: new computer arriving soon

On 02/01/2025 11:22, gene heskett wrote: On 1/1/25 21:57, Max Nikulin wrote: The problem is that he can not use some search engine to find guides related to LVM. He believes that everything must be documented in man pages, but he ignores any tool that may help to find locally installed man pag

"lists.debian.org - where can you help?" (Video)

Hi, Perhaps not quite on topic but over the holiday period I watched this presentation about lists.debian.org and found it very interesting. https://berlin2024.mini.debconf.org/talks/12-listsdebianorg-where-can-you-help/ Or if you prefer YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVx

Re: getting started with pipewire

Thanks to your heldp, with the help of the correct guide it seems I was able to install pipewire successflly. To apply it I had to reboot. I assumed that once rebooted I should restart the pipewife daemon with the command as follows. Howerver it gave me errors: $ pipewire [E]

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

Stefan Monnier writes: > Sometimes I used cloned another system, and other times I used > Debootstrap running from one of the "images" provided by the board maker > (all those images suck, IMO: they're never designed with updates in mind). Indeed, thanks. Previously I've dismissed these patched

Re: new computer arriving soon

Hi Gene, On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 04:46:37PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > The hardware I use has nothing non-std in the field I work in. But 99% of > you folks haven't the foggiest idea of what we get the dirt under our > fingernails from, or how we "get it done". I'm disappointed to read that you

Re: debian kernel compiler

Hi, Istvan Toth wrote: > Most > times, about 100 times so far, the compiler ran at 40 minutes, but then it > does not compile the nvidia-current 183.216.01 or the 535.183.01 module. > Because of this, there will be no /boot/initrd.img file, the boot will not > start. This would match a prematurel

debian kernel compiler

Hi, Happy New Year.Bookworm 12.08, amd 5700G cpu, ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING mobo, want to compile custom kernel, based on `The Debian Administrator's Handbook/8.10. Compiling a Kernel`. The compiler runs in two parts. Most times, about 100 times so far, the compiler ran at 40 minutes, but

Re: laptop for debian 12

* On 2025 02 Jan 00:29 -0600, john doe wrote: > On 1/2/25 00:36, hen...@privatembox.com wrote: > > I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. > > Can you suggest one for that purpose? > > > > No can do, why are you asking this question? > > Lenovo laptops are not that bad and

Re: SMTP servers

On 2/1/25 18:15, Jonathan Dowland wrote: The review (worth reading) opens with "The most common piece of advice given to users who ask about running their own mail server is don't." I have been running my own inbound and outbound mail servers for over 30 years using ISP connections. The on

Re: SMTP servers

LWN recently reviewed a new self-published book, "run your own mailserver": The review (worth reading) opens with "The most common piece of advice given to users who ask about running their own mail server is don't." I'd pretty much concur with that advice,