Re: [SOLVED] Re: Virtual machine - booting from USB?

2024-08-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le 21/08/2024 à 18:30, Hans a écrit : [...] Well, now as I know, that qemu is working, I will check if I can use also the commandline with qemu. Should be possible! [...] That, too, is explained in the link I indicated previously, ("3. Boot From the Command Line"): https://www.baeldung.com/linu

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 22/08/2024 05:21, Felix Miata wrote: My BBS menu contains 4 entries corresponding to output from efibootmgr, with the highlight on the one beginning "opensusetw", as configured via GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=. Or it just coincides with the configured value. My expectation is that EFI/opensusetw/grub.

Re: cannot download bookworm

2024-08-21 Thread George at Clug
Juan, I am in Australia. Just to let you know the experiences of other people, I currently have no issues accessing the following sites (which includes downloading (https://chuangtzu.ftp.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-12.6.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso): https://www.debian.org/ https://

Re: cannot download bookworm

2024-08-21 Thread Juan R.D. Silva
Hi folks, I do not know the reason but for about 3 hours I could access debian.org website and browse it up to this page https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable but no further. When tried to open amd64 link to download dvd, I get "the site cannot be open" or something similar. At the sam

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-21 Thread Felix Miata
Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-21 23:17 (UTC+0700): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-21 10:54 (UTC+0700): >>> I was experimenting trying to get 2 >>> entries from the same vendor in the UEFI (firmware) boot menu and found >>> it tricky and inconvenient. >> How so? I fo

Re: cannot download bookworm

2024-08-21 Thread Juan R.D. Silva
Hi, I'm not trying to do anything exotic. www.debian.org home page is accessible. I can browse up to this page https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable but no further. Trying then amd64 link for dvd browser (I tried several of them) reports "the page is not accessible" or something like thi

Re: wait until swapoff is *actually* finished (it returns too early)?

2024-08-21 Thread Thorsten Glaser
(Please Cc me on replies.) Franco Martelli dixit: > interrupt it when a condition is satisfied, e.g.: > > while true > do >/usr/bin/grep lv-swp1 /proc/swaps >/dev/null 2>&1 Not the right condition though… it’s absent there but still in use. I am looking for the right thing to check… bye

Re: QEMU: Run a container of a different architecture

2024-08-21 Thread Steve Keller
"Markus Schönhaber" writes: > No. systemd-nspawn does indeed simply run a container. You can think of > that as a chroot on steroids. This means, everything inside the > container is run using the host kernel. Or to put it the other way > round: what the host kernel can't execute won't run. Actua

Re: cannot download bookworm

2024-08-21 Thread Felix Miata
Juan R.D. Silva composed on 2024-08-21 15:46 (UTC-0400): > I am trying to download debian-bookwarm-12.6.0.iso and it looks like all > servers and mirrors are down. What's happening? cdimage.debian.org won't load here either. Try: https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/debian-cd/12.6.0/ -- Evolution as

Mirror list - mirrors down? [WAS Re: cannot download bookworm]

2024-08-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 03:46:40PM -0400, Juan R.D. Silva wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to download debian-bookwarm-12.6.0.iso and it looks like all > servers and mirrors are down. What's happening? > > Thanks > Hi Juan, Some hosting may be down: I don't know which country you're in but try work

Re: cannot download bookworm

2024-08-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 03:46:40PM -0400, Juan R.D. Silva wrote: > I am trying to download debian-bookwarm-12.6.0.iso and it looks like all > servers and mirrors are down. What's happening? It works for me. Time for you to ask your Internet service provider or local network administrators?

cannot download bookworm

2024-08-21 Thread Juan R.D. Silva
Hi, I am trying to download debian-bookwarm-12.6.0.iso and it looks like all servers and mirrors are down. What's happening? Thanks

Re: edu-debian net-install autopartition /boot to 500MB

2024-08-21 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 09:37:08 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > FWIW, I have > > MODULES=dep > COMPRESS=lzma > > in `/etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf`, which helps keep the size of > the initrd in check. Indeed. Thank you. Making the first change knocked my initrd from 67M down to about

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-21 Thread Nicolas George
Max Nikulin (12024-08-21): > Have I missed something or GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR affects *grub* menu, but not > *UEFI* boot menu? Indeed, it is not just as simple as that. >I still suspect it is a UEFI+SecureBoot design > shortcoming that it is not possible to install the same loader

Re: edu-debian net-install autopartition /boot to 500MB

2024-08-21 Thread Felix Miata
Ruslanas Gžibovskis composed on 2024-08-21 16:16 (UTC+0300): > Just wondering if you have a problem when doing automated partitioning > during the debian deployment using edu-net-install iso? > the problem I face is too small partition size, which is 500 MB, when a Are you sure you require a sep

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread Felix Miata
James Freer composed on 2024-08-21 15:15 (UTC+0100): > I realise 32 bit is going but i haven't the cash at > present to consider a new PC. You may not need one. What CPU do you have? lscpu inxi -S Both of these will report CPU model, from which you can tell if indeed it only su

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 10:41 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > I know I've asked this before, but couldn't thread. > /etc/debian_version reports release active, but I need to know 32 or 64 bit. Which bus width do you want to know? Address, data, pci, agp, something else? Jeff

Re: QEMU: Run a container of a different architecture

2024-08-21 Thread Markus Schönhaber
21.08.24, 16:56 +0200, Steve Keller: > Can I run a container for a different CPU architecture using > systemd-nspawn? No. systemd-nspawn does indeed simply run a container. You can think of that as a chroot on steroids. This means, everything inside the container is run using the host kernel. Or

Re: DUH - was [Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?]

2024-08-21 Thread Bret Busby
On 21/8/24 19:43, Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/21/2024 06:34 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I know I've asked this before, but couldn't thread. /etc/debian_version reports release active, but I need to know 32 or 64 bit. TIA Just finished coffee - inspiration I use MATE   just checked Applicati

[SOLVED] Re: Virtual machine - booting from USB?

2024-08-21 Thread Hans
> yes > https://www.baeldung.com/linux/qemu-boot-physical-drive > (minimal answer ;-) ) Hi Didier, thanks for the quick response! This is working perfectly. However, fanca thing is: virtual-manager is working great, but Aqumu got not this option. Obviously both are based on qemu. Well, now as

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/08/2024 11:25, Felix Miata wrote: Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-21 10:54 (UTC+0700): I was experimenting trying to get 2 entries from the same vendor in the UEFI (firmware) boot menu and found it tricky and inconvenient. How so? I found it quite simple to edit /etc/default/grub and re

Re: Chain Loading Preseed Files

2024-08-21 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 11:27:08 +0200 john doe wrote: > The below assumes that this is not a regression or a bug for the > debian-boot mailing list. Agreed. > > When I was playing with this, the only way I could get it to work was > by specifying options that are common in `preseed.cfg` and add m

Re: Metapackaging

2024-08-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Aug 21, 2024 at 12:47 PM BST, Greg Wooledge wrote: > The only way I've used equivs is to produce a package named mta-local > which looks like this: Yes, there's a distinction between satisfying a virtual dependency, like mta-local, and the use I outlined. The virtual dependency one is proba

QEMU: Run a container of a different architecture

2024-08-21 Thread Steve Keller
Can I run a container for a different CPU architecture using systemd-nspawn? I can easily install on my amd64 host a Debian container of the same architecture and run that: # debootstrap stable deb12-amd64 # systemd-nspawn -D deb12-amd64 and get a shell running in that container. I can also

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 07:52:14AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > It's extremely likely that whatever arch /bin/ls uses is the "primary" > arch for the system. It works on every Linux system I've encountered, > even if the kernel doesn't match it. > > Of course, for Debian specifically, th

Re: glob path question

2024-08-21 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 09:44:34AM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: [...] > All these years of using ls and locate myself, just had an ah-ha moment > triggered by the above. Tried my favored (cognitively friendly) grep: [...] Glad you enjoyed it :-) > PS Yeah, I know, some directories go very de

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-21 Thread fxkl47BF
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024, Richard Owlett wrote: > I know I've asked this before, but couldn't thread. > /etc/debian_version reports release active, but I need to know 32 or 64 bit. > TIA > dmidecode

Re: wait until swapoff is *actually* finished (it returns too early)?

2024-08-21 Thread Franco Martelli
On 21/08/24 at 01:34, Thorsten Glaser wrote: (Please d̲o̲ Cc me on replies, I don’t subscribe to this list. Thanks!) Just adding a “sleep” is no proper fix anyway, so the question is, how to wait in a shell script until the swap device is *really* swapoff’d when the syscall returns too early

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le 21/08/2024 à 15:44, didier gaumet a écrit : [...] it is nontheless 64 bits hardware. Hey, reread your prose before posting, man! ;-) => nonetheless

Re: glob path question

2024-08-21 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
Please forgive any formatting glitches. I'm still a brand newbie at sending emails out of Evolution. :) On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 8:08AM Michael Kjörling wrote: > > But this file is not listed by 'ls' command. > > > > # ls /etc/policyd-spf.conf > > ls: cannot access '/etc/policyd-spf.conf': No such

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le 21/08/2024 à 15:15, James Freer a écrit : My apologies No need to apologize :-) I should have remembered that traditional installation medias are rarer amongst user-friendly distros like Ubuntu that provide primarily live-medias i thought this image was a live image and that was what i

Re: edu-debian net-install autopartition /boot to 500MB

2024-08-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
Ruslanas Gžibovskis [2024-08-21 16:16:54] wrote: > Just wondering if you have a problem when doing automated partitioning > during the debian deployment using edu-net-install iso? > > the problem I face is too small partition size, which is 500 MB, when a > simple kernel now has the size of 234 MB,

Re: wait until swapoff is *actually* finished (it returns too early)?

2024-08-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Just adding a “sleep” is no proper fix anyway, so the question > is, how to wait in a shell script until the swap device is > *really* swapoff’d when the syscall returns too early, and > (someone from the Linux kernel maintainers reading this?) should > I report the latter as a bug against the ke

edu-debian net-install autopartition /boot to 500MB

2024-08-21 Thread Ruslanas Gžibovskis
Hi all, Just wondering if you have a problem when doing automated partitioning during the debian deployment using edu-net-install iso? the problem I face is too small partition size, which is 500 MB, when a simple kernel now has the size of 234 MB, each time it needs to regenerate even the same k

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread James Freer
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 at 13:29, didier gaumet wrote: > > Le 21/08/2024 à 14:15, James Freer a écrit : > > > I was hoping i was doing the right thing with this live DVD. I realise > > 32 bit is going but i just wanted to test the hardware. I can't risk a > > hard disk install until i have leave from

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-21 Thread Felix Miata
This is an edit/resend. Originally I tried to reconstruct the initial login of the day, but brain fart got things backwards, after the upgrade and reboot. Richard Owlett composed on 2024-08-21 06:34 (UTC-0500): > I know I've asked this before, but couldn't thread. > /etc/debian_version reports r

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-21 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Owlett composed on 2024-08-21 06:34 (UTC-0500): > I know I've asked this before, but couldn't thread. > /etc/debian_version reports release active, but I need to know 32 or 64 bit. Debian GNU/Linux 11 gx28b tty3 gx28b login: root Password: Linux gx28b 5.10.0-32-686 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.223-

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le 21/08/2024 à 14:28, didier gaumet a écrit : [...] - You can use a Debian installation image as a repair image to start a shell that permits you to verify some basic points (no GUI...) [...] ...without installing anything on the disk(s)...

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > Is your machine really so old that it won't run a 64-bit Debian ? > In your situation i would just try one from: > https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/ I gave the wrong link. Sorry. (The above is for BitTorrent download). Correct for direct download

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le 21/08/2024 à 14:15, James Freer a écrit : I was hoping i was doing the right thing with this live DVD. I realise 32 bit is going but i just wanted to test the hardware. I can't risk a hard disk install until i have leave from work and can spend the necessary time on an installation. Seems odd

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, James Freer wrote: > > For a live DVD install as i want to check the hardware is okay i tried > > using debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso. This i presume would just spin up > > but it has asked for partitioning etc > Seems odd to ask for partitioning on a liveDVD. debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso. is an

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread James Freer
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 at 13:02, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 21 Aug 2024 12:52 +0100, from jrjfr...@gmail.com (James Freer): > > For a live DVD install as i want to check the hardware is okay i tried > > using debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso. This i presume would just spin up > > but it has asked for p

Re: glob path question

2024-08-21 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 02:00:02PM +0200, Corey H wrote: > Hi > > I use this command trying to find a file in /etc whose name contains "spf", > > root@cloud:~# cd /etc/ > > root@cloud:/etc# ls *spf* > policyd-spf.conf > > But this file is not listed by 'ls' command. > > # ls /etc/policyd-spf.c

Re: wait until swapoff is *actually* finished (it returns too early)?

2024-08-21 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 07:38:29AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Even if that's true, running them all in the same command as Roberto > shows would not give you any benefit. In early Unix sync *did* return immediately after scheduling a buffer flush. > You'd need to physically *type* the command

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread DdB
Am 21.08.2024 um 13:52 schrieb James Freer: > i tried > using debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso This is an installation image (the first of a whole set). What you want is a live iso such as for example: debian-live-12.6.0-i386-xfce.iso unfortunately, i could only dig up https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimag

Re: Virtual machine - booting from USB?

2024-08-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le 21/08/2024 à 13:27, Hans a écrit : [...] does one know, if it is possible to boot from an USB-stick within a virtual machine? [...] Short answer like "yes, it wqill wor with" or "no, this is not possible..." will be fine for me. [...] yes https://www.baeldung.com/linux/qemu-boot-physi

Re: glob path question

2024-08-21 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 21 Aug 2024 14:00 +0200, from cor...@free.fr (Corey H): > I use this command trying to find a file in /etc whose name contains "spf", > > root@cloud:~# cd /etc/ > > root@cloud:/etc# ls *spf* > policyd-spf.conf > > But this file is not listed by 'ls' command. > > # ls /etc/policyd-spf.conf >

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 21 Aug 2024 12:52 +0100, from jrjfr...@gmail.com (James Freer): > For a live DVD install as i want to check the hardware is okay i tried > using debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso. This i presume would just spin up > but it has asked for partitioning etc which suggests it is going to do > a hard disk in

glob path question

2024-08-21 Thread Corey H
Hi I use this command trying to find a file in /etc whose name contains "spf", root@cloud:~# cd /etc/ root@cloud:/etc# ls *spf* policyd-spf.conf But this file is not listed by 'ls' command. # ls /etc/policyd-spf.conf ls: cannot access '/etc/policyd-spf.conf': No such file or directory inst

Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread James Freer
Hi folks I have an old machine i want to try debian on for the first time. I understand that one can use the net install for a straight hard disk install. For a live DVD install as i want to check the hardware is okay i tried using debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso. This i presume would just spin up but

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 13:39:22 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 06:34:30AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I know I've asked this before, but couldn't thread. > > /etc/debian_version reports release active, but I need to know 32 or 64 bit. > > TIA > > uname -a > > This

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/21/2024 06:39 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 06:34:30AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I know I've asked this before, but couldn't thread. /etc/debian_version reports release active, but I need to know 32 or 64 bit. TIA uname -a This tells you the *kernel* version. No

Re: wait until swapoff is *actually* finished (it returns too early)?

2024-08-21 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 08:39:37AM +0200, Erwan David wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 02:18:44AM CEST, Greg Wooledge > said: > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 20:04:11 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > sync && sync && sync && swapoff > > > > > > I couldn't tell why I have sync 3 times, but I kno

Re: Metapackaging

2024-08-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 11:57:06 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue Aug 20, 2024 at 1:55 PM BST, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > You're saying that you use equivs to create packages that have the SAME > > NAMES as Debian packages?? > > That's entirely the point of it, surely. You want to convince th

Re: wait until swapoff is *actually* finished (it returns too early)?

2024-08-21 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 08:18:44PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 20:04:11 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > sync && sync && sync && swapoff > > > > I couldn't tell why I have sync 3 times, but I know that it's how I've > > called swapoff since as far back as I can rememb

DUH - was [Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?]

2024-08-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/21/2024 06:34 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I know I've asked this before, but couldn't thread. /etc/debian_version reports release active, but I need to know 32 or 64 bit. TIA Just finished coffee - inspiration I use MATE just checked Application->System Tools->Mate System Monitor I te

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-21 Thread Wesley
On 2024-08-21 19:34, Richard Owlett wrote: I know I've asked this before, but couldn't thread. /etc/debian_version reports release active, but I need to know 32 or 64 bit. TIA maybe this? $ uname -a Thanks -- https://wespeng.pages.dev/

Re: What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-21 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 06:34:30AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I know I've asked this before, but couldn't thread. > /etc/debian_version reports release active, but I need to know 32 or 64 bit. > TIA uname -a This tells you the *kernel* version. Note that for most architectures, the 64 bit ver

Re: wait until swapoff is *actually* finished (it returns too early)?

2024-08-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 08:39:37 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 02:18:44AM CEST, Greg Wooledge > said: > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 20:04:11 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > sync && sync && sync && swapoff > > > > > > I couldn't tell why I have sync 3 times, but I know

What tool(s) reports OS buss width, which processor present?

2024-08-21 Thread Richard Owlett
I know I've asked this before, but couldn't thread. /etc/debian_version reports release active, but I need to know 32 or 64 bit. TIA

Virtual machine - booting from USB?

2024-08-21 Thread Hans
Hi folks, does one know, if it is possible to boot from an USB-stick within a virtual machine? I want to boot a multiboot usb stick with YUMI within a virtual machine. Tried Virtualbox (here you can only make a *.vdk from the USB-stick and boot it), as well as virtual-manager (seem also only b

Re: Metapackaging

2024-08-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue Aug 20, 2024 at 1:55 PM BST, Greg Wooledge wrote: > You're saying that you use equivs to create packages that have the SAME > NAMES as Debian packages?? That's entirely the point of it, surely. You want to convince the packaging system that you have dependency $FOO satisfied, even if you do

Re: Chain Loading Preseed Files

2024-08-21 Thread john doe
On 8/20/24 21:04, Charles Curley wrote: I have a preseed file set up to do a lot of the installation process for me. However, I still have to customize it for each machine, e.g. host name. I then do the disk partition layout manually during the installation. What I would like to do is have a fil

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 08:45:05 +0200 Nicolas George wrote: > Max Nikulin (12024-08-21): > > Do you mean 3rd party bootloader (e.g. grub)? > > There is nothing “3rd party” about GRUB. > > > I was responding to > > "AIUI > > UEFI/GPT were designed t