debian distro on compact disk

2024-07-22 Thread prive Arjen SImon Scheer
Hendrik Ido Ambacht 23 juli 2024. Dear debian i was wondering withall the AI in software computer opertings systems where can i buy a save distro on compact disk whant back to the core without AI, had some problems whit AI and machine leraing the computer goind to deside an i know debian

Re: update system periodically

2024-07-22 Thread Erwan David
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 04:06:55PM CEST, Michael Kjörling said: > On 22 Jul 2024 05:47 +0800, from cor...@free.fr: > > I have been running an old debian 11 for many days. > > is it safe to run 'apt upgrade' and 'apt update' periodically? > > for example put them into crontab. > > `apt update` (a

Re: [Solved] Re: vim on Debian 12: How to disable the mouse GUI mode ?

2024-07-22 Thread Max Nikulin
On 23/07/2024 00:40, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Greg Wooledge wrote: https://vi.stackexchange.com/questions/18001/why-cant-i-paste-commands-into-vi Apparently when in an "xterm environment" (whatever that means; apparently it includes rxvt-unicode), turning on bracketed paste mode works: :set t

Re: Alternative to Authy

2024-07-22 Thread jeremy ardley
On 23/7/24 10:16, jeremy ardley wrote: I use Google Authenticator as an option in pam to secure ssh connections. It can be plugged into other services such as httpd and normal cli login. I expect Google authenticator also works on Windows. NB. Google Authenticator does not use any Google cl

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread Max Nikulin
On 23/07/2024 09:23, Max Nikulin wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 00:25:27 +0500, 타토카 wrote: I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread Max Nikulin
On 23/07/2024 02:30, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 00:25:27 +0500, 타토카 wrote: I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you w

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread David Wright
On Mon 22 Jul 2024 at 18:10:24 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 5:41 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 01:38:07PM +0500, 타토카 wrote: > > > [...] > > > 4. As I know Debian Sid does not have some packages like Arch, why? They > > > have rolling releases? I mean

Re: Alternative to Authy

2024-07-22 Thread jeremy ardley
On 23/7/24 09:11, Jeremy Andrews wrote: I switched to Ente Auth, it's working pretty well for me so far. On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, 19:40 Mick Ab > wrote: Now that Authy is no more, I am looking for a suitable replacement. I have a Debian Bullseye de

Re: Alternative to Authy

2024-07-22 Thread Jeremy Andrews
I switched to Ente Auth, it's working pretty well for me so far. On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, 19:40 Mick Ab wrote: > Now that Authy is no more, I am looking for a suitable replacement. I have > a Debian Bullseye desktop PC, using a CLI interface rather than a desktop > interface. > > Can anyone help wi

Re: Wazuh Security Alert

2024-07-22 Thread George at Clug
I guess this is the link as you comments in your post: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2023-37920 Name: CVE-2023-37920 Description: Certifi is a curated collection of Root Certificates for validating the trustworthiness of SSL certificates while verifying the identity of TLS host

Re: Wazuh Security Alert

2024-07-22 Thread Todd Zullinger
Simon Bates wrote: > I recently started using Wazuh to manage the security of my servers and > Linux desktops. > > I have a Debian server that is raising the following alert: > > package.name: python3-certifi > > package.version: 2022.9.24-1 > > vulnerability.id: CVE-2023-37920 > > https://nvd

Wazuh Security Alert

2024-07-22 Thread Simon Bates
I recently started using Wazuh to manage the security of my servers and Linux desktops. I have a Debian server that is raising the following alert: package.name: python3-certifi package.version: 2022.9.24-1 vulnerability.id: CVE-2023-37920 https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2023-37920 htt

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 5:41 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 01:38:07PM +0500, 타토카 wrote: > > [...] > > 4. As I know Debian Sid does not have some packages like Arch, why? They > > have rolling releases? I mean packages, for example, hyprland. > > Debian sid is not a rolling relea

Re: fvwm on Debian 12: Modules do not start. How to debug ?

2024-07-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 23:09:59 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Four of five fingers point to me and my ~/.fvwm2rc": > > ModulePath /usr/lib/fvwm/2.6.8 > > I see traces that i adjusted this multiple times over the years: > /usr/lib/X11/fvwm2 , /usr/lib/fvwm/2.6.5 , /usr/lib/fvwm/2.6.8. > > So

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 01:38:07PM +0500, 타토카 wrote: > Hello, dear Debian Community! I just want to ask you a few questions: > 1. How is Debian Sid stable then Arch Linux, for example? How often does > Debian Sid crash and breaked? If you have to ask this question, you should not try to use D

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 23 Jul 2024 01:27 +0500, from cybertat...@gmail.com (타토카): > I know what PAM is. I understand what the problem is described on the > website. But I think if I get Debian Sid Update and after that PAM will > crash, I just want to know what the solution can be for it. You have mentioned at least

Re: fvwm on Debian 12: Modules do not start. How to debug ?

2024-07-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, (i begin to owe Greg Wooledge half a sysadmin salary and half one for a geriatric nurse) Greg Wooledge wrote: > Error messages, if there are any, should be in ~/.xsession-errors $ cat ~/.xsession-errors Cannot parse color "dtcolor5" couldn't create gradient Cannot parse color "dtcolo

Re: update system periodically

2024-07-22 Thread David Wright
On Sun 21 Jul 2024 at 22:01:58 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 18:43:28 -0500 > David Wright wrote: > > > I run the following from root's crontab: > > > > apt-get -qq -o Acquire::http::Proxy="http://192.168.1.14:3142/"; > > update && apt-get -qq -d -o > > Acquire::http::

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread David Wright
On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 00:25:27 (+0500), 타토카 wrote: > I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): > "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so > without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you work in a precarious > environment, you

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 21:38:23 +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 01:27:49 +0500 > 타토카 wrote: > > > I know what PAM is. I understand what the problem is described on the > > website. But I think if I get Debian Sid Update and after that PAM > > will crash, I just want to know what the solu

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread 타토카
I know what PAM is. I understand what the problem is described on the website. But I think if I get Debian Sid Update and after that PAM will crash, I just want to know what the solution can be for it. I am interested in Debian Sid. But I just want to Insure myself of problems, which happened in th

Re: fvwm on Debian 12: Modules do not start. How to debug ?

2024-07-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 21:37:05 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > So how could i debug the start of fvwm Modules ? > Is there any log file or configuration option ? Error messages, if there are any, should be in ~/.xsession-errors for most users. I'd start there.

Re: /var/run disappear after reboot

2024-07-22 Thread coreyh
For coreyh, here is the link to Linux Filesystem Hierarchy, v3: . And here is Wikipedia's page digesting it: . The documents discuss where various bits should go, including 11

Alternative to Authy

2024-07-22 Thread Mick Ab
Now that Authy is no more, I am looking for a suitable replacement. I have a Debian Bullseye desktop PC, using a CLI interface rather than a desktop interface. Can anyone help with this, please ? I also need to replace Authy on a Windows 11 laptop, so it would help if any suggestion could cope wi

fvwm on Debian 12: Modules do not start. How to debug ?

2024-07-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, after the striking success with my previous vim problem, i want to tackle another nuisance of the 11-to-12 upgrade. The window manager fvwm2 does not start the Modules and does not produce the Buttons which are prescribed by my ~/.fvwm2rc . I am direly missing FvwmPager for my 8x2 multi-deskt

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 00:25:27 +0500, 타토카 wrote: > I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): > "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so > without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you work in a precarious > environment, you

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread 타토카
I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you work in a precarious environment, you must be able to handle such situations.". I don't know how

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread Kent West
On 7/22/24 3:38 AM, 타토카 wrote: Hello, dear Debian Community! I just want to ask you a few questions: 1. How is Debian Sid stable then Arch Linux, for example? How often does Debian Sid crash and breaked? I can't speak about Arch; I mostly use Sid on all my workstations, but none of my serv

Re: /var/run disappear after reboot

2024-07-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 11:10 AM George at Clug wrote: > > On Monday, 22-07-2024 at 22:15 Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > > On Jul 22, 2024, at 08:08, cor...@free.fr wrote: > > > > > > I found that after I rebooted the system, the dir /var/run/*** > > > disappeared. > > > > Yes, > > /var/run > >

[Solved] Re: vim on Debian 12: How to disable the mouse GUI mode ?

2024-07-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > I found a fix: > https://vi.stackexchange.com/questions/18001/why-cant-i-paste-commands-into-vi > Apparently when in an "xterm environment" (whatever that means; apparently > it includes rxvt-unicode), turning on bracketed paste mode works: > > :set t_BE= > > The = i

Re: /var/run disappear after reboot

2024-07-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 10:12 AM Charles Curley wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 20:07:38 +0800 > cor...@free.fr wrote: > > > I found that after I rebooted the system, the dir /var/run/*** > > disappeared. > > As others have pointed out, stuff in /var/run is supposed to disappear > on reboot. > > >

Re: vim on Debian 12: How to disable the mouse GUI mode ?

2024-07-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
I found a fix: https://vi.stackexchange.com/questions/18001/why-cant-i-paste-commands-into-vi Apparently when in an "xterm environment" (whatever that means; apparently it includes rxvt-unicode), turning on bracketed paste mode works: :set t_BE= The = is required.

Re: vim on Debian 12: How to disable the mouse GUI mode ?

2024-07-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > In my testing, I ran vim with no arguments, and typed in a single line > of gibberish. Then, I moved the cursor to column 0. Finally, I typed > out the command 20l in a different terminal, highlighted it, and pasted > it into vim. Rather than moving my cursor 20 character

Re: vim on Debian 12: How to disable the mouse GUI mode ?

2024-07-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 11:23:19 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 11:20 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 17:08:15 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > Since an upgrade from Debian 11 to 12 the vim command > > > > > > :set mouse= > > > > > > does not disa

Re: vim on Debian 12: How to disable the mouse GUI mode ?

2024-07-22 Thread David
On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 at 15:09, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > (I have no Debian 11 at hand any more. It would be nice if one of the > vim users of Debian 11 could confirm that after > :set mouse= > pasting the number text "123" by the mouse and pressing "G" on the > keyboard brings the cursor to line 1

Re: vim on Debian 12: How to disable the mouse GUI mode ?

2024-07-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > I'm not sure how you've got it configured, but just having a ~/.vimrc > file should be enough to disable the default system vimrc which has all > that broken mouse crap. The problem is that the old way of crap-disabling does not work here. I can perform in the vim sess

Re: vim on Debian 12: How to disable the mouse GUI mode ?

2024-07-22 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 11:20 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 17:08:15 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Since an upgrade from Debian 11 to 12 the vim command > > > > :set mouse= > > > > does not disable the "GUI" interpretation of pasting text or numbers > > when vim is in no

Re: vim on Debian 12: How to disable the mouse GUI mode ?

2024-07-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 17:08:15 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Since an upgrade from Debian 11 to 12 the vim command > > :set mouse= > > does not disable the "GUI" interpretation of pasting text or numbers > when vim is in normal mode [...] I'm not sure how you've got it configured, but just

vim on Debian 12: How to disable the mouse GUI mode ?

2024-07-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i am running vim in xterm windows. Since an upgrade from Debian 11 to 12 the vim command :set mouse= does not disable the "GUI" interpretation of pasting text or numbers when vim is in normal mode (i.e. when pressing ':' leads to a command prompt in the base line and pressing 'i' leads to

Re: /var/run disappear after reboot

2024-07-22 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 20:07:38 +0800 cor...@free.fr wrote: > I found that after I rebooted the system, the dir /var/run/*** > disappeared. As others have pointed out, stuff in /var/run is supposed to disappear on reboot. > I put my app's web sessions under /var/run. so they got lost. > Is there a

Re: update system periodically

2024-07-22 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 22 Jul 2024 05:47 +0800, from cor...@free.fr: > I have been running an old debian 11 for many days. > is it safe to run 'apt upgrade' and 'apt update' periodically? > for example put them into crontab. `apt update` (and `apt-get update`) will only update the package database. That should be abo

No Desktop after installation was: info

2024-07-22 Thread Franco Martelli
On 22/07/24 at 08:07, Francesco Di Lorenzo wrote: good morning, i installed debain 12 from your site, and using the usb , I did the installation, but I don't know why I don't get the desktop enviments , it is only text. what I can do? thanks Maybe X fails to start, what it happens if you run

Re: sendmail without DNS

2024-07-22 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sun, 21 Jul 2024, Adam Weremczuk wrote: This is in a way a continuation of my recently "purely local DNS" thread. To recap: my objective is to send emails to a single domain with both DNS and any other email traffic being disabled. A simple working solution that I've found for Postfix is:

Re: /var/run disappear after reboot

2024-07-22 Thread Nicolas George
George at Clug (12024-07-22): > Would it be appropriate to use the /opt directory? No. If it is VARiable, then it should go under /var. /var/lib/somehting is traditional, /var/opt/something is an option if you installed under /opt/something. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: /var/run disappear after reboot

2024-07-22 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 22-07-2024 at 22:15 Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > On Jul 22, 2024, at 08:08, cor...@free.fr wrote: > > > > I found that after I rebooted the system, the dir /var/run/*** disappeared. > > > Yes, > /var/run > is a symlink to /run > And /run is a tmpfs > > > I put my app's web s

Re: /var/run disappear after reboot

2024-07-22 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12024-07-22): > The contents of /run (which /var/run points to) are temporary. And even before /var/run was a link to /run, it was meant to be cleaned at boot. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: /var/run disappear after reboot

2024-07-22 Thread Henning Follmann
> On Jul 22, 2024, at 08:08, cor...@free.fr wrote: > > I found that after I rebooted the system, the dir /var/run/*** disappeared. Yes, /var/run is a symlink to /run And /run is a tmpfs > I put my app's web sessions under /var/run. so they got lost. Well that was a bad idea if you wanted t

Re: /var/run disappear after reboot

2024-07-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 20:07:38 +0800, cor...@free.fr wrote: > I found that after I rebooted the system, the dir /var/run/*** disappeared. > I put my app's web sessions under /var/run. so they got lost. > Is there an effective tool to manage /var/run dirs? hobbit:~$ ls -ld /var/run lrwxrwxrwx 1 r

/var/run disappear after reboot

2024-07-22 Thread coreyh
I found that after I rebooted the system, the dir /var/run/*** disappeared. I put my app's web sessions under /var/run. so they got lost. Is there an effective tool to manage /var/run dirs? Thank you -- corey hickman

keyboards and keycaps

2024-07-22 Thread songbird
Russell L. Harris wrote: ... > When in High School (A.D. 1963) I learned to type (QWERTY), the > typewriters in the classroom had blank keycaps. A layout chart was > hung on the wall in the front of the room. We learned to "touch > type," and were able to reach 95 words per minute. i flunked t

Re: info

2024-07-22 Thread songbird
jeremy ardley wrote: > On 22/7/24 14:07, Francesco Di Lorenzo wrote: >> good morning, >> i installed debain 12 from your site, and using the usb , I did the >> installation, but I don't know why I don't get the desktop enviments , >> it is only text. >> what I can do? >> thanks > > This installs

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread songbird
타토카 wrote: > Hello, dear Debian Community! I just want to ask you a few questions: > 1. How is Debian Sid stable then Arch Linux, for example? How often does > Debian Sid crash and breaked? this depends upon which packages are used frequently. > 2. I have seen on the Debian official site abou

Re: Remote desktop Debian -> ChromeBook

2024-07-22 Thread Nicolas George
Nicolas George (12024-07-18): > I want to display a desktop and applications running on a Debian box on > the screen and keyboard of a ChromeBook. Over LAN+WLAN mostly, but if it > can also work more remotely in degraded mode it would be nice. > > I see various options to try: VNC with a native An

Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread 타토카
Hello, dear Debian Community! I just want to ask you a few questions: 1. How is Debian Sid stable then Arch Linux, for example? How often does Debian Sid crash and breaked? 2. I have seen on the Debian official site about Debian Sid and PAM. If I have this problem with PAM, what should I do? 3. And

Re: info

2024-07-22 Thread Joe
On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 06:07:29 + Francesco Di Lorenzo wrote: > good morning, > i installed debain 12 from your site, and using the usb , I did the > installation, but I don't know why I don't get the desktop enviments > , it is only text. what I can do? thanks First, what is the text you see?

Re: info

2024-07-22 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 22. Juli 2024, 08:07:29 CEST schrieb Francesco Di Lorenzo: > good morning, > i installed debain 12 from your site, and using the usb , I did the > installation, but I don't know why I don't get the desktop enviments , it > is only text. what I can do? > thanks Looks like the X server is

Re: info

2024-07-22 Thread DdB
Am 22.07.2024 um 08:07 schrieb Francesco Di Lorenzo: > good morning, > i installed debain 12 from your site, and using the usb , I did the > installation, but I don't know why I don't get the desktop enviments , > it is only text. > what I can do? > thanks  First things first: You have choices! B

Re: info

2024-07-22 Thread jeremy ardley
On 22/7/24 14:07, Francesco Di Lorenzo wrote: good morning, i installed debain 12 from your site, and using the usb , I did the installation, but I don't know why I don't get the desktop enviments , it is only text. what I can do? thanks This installs the mate desktop environment. You can

Re: Detecting change in running kernel version between reboots

2024-07-22 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 22-07-2024 at 02:35 Joe wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 12:43:58 +0100 > Mike wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I have a TV card in one of my boxen, which requires a kernel module to > > be built. I've got that all nicely scripted and so I can kick it off > > with relative ease. > > > >