On 5/28/24 17:10, John Hasler wrote:
David writes:
AIUI in the USA for residential 120/240V single-phase three-wire service
drops, electrical utilities either run all three phases along the
distribution line or they run two phases. Running one phase and a neutral
instead of two phases would red
On 29/05/2024 00:51, Michael Grant wrote:
The culprits that seemed to be causing the massive dependencies were
libsasl2-2 and libsasl2-modules-db. Though not libsasl2-modules which
i also have installed.
With adjusted priorities these packages are not an issue for "apt upgrade".
More serious
On 2024-05-28 at 15:02, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 28.05.2024 um 20:38:46 Uhr schrieb Thomas Schmitt:
>> What does "[residual-config]" mean ?
>
> Packages include system-wide configuration files. If packages are
> removed, this configuration will not be deleted. You need to purge
> such packages t
On 2024-05-27 18:42:48 +0300, mindaugascelies...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 5:59:55 PM EEST Nicolas George wrote:
> > Eben King (12024-05-27):
> > > Is there an easier way to uninstall a package and everything it brought in
> > > at one swell foop? Thanks.
> >
> > The packages you
During the latest shutdown:
May 29 01:55:05 qaa systemd[1]: Stopping session-2.scope - Session 2 of User
vinc17...
[...]
May 29 01:55:26 qaa systemd[1]: session-2.scope: Stopping timed out. Killing.
May 29 01:55:26 qaa systemd[1]: session-2.scope: Killing process 2990 (mutt)
with signal SIGKILL.
David writes:
> AIUI in the USA for residential 120/240V single-phase three-wire service
> drops, electrical utilities either run all three phases along the
> distribution line or they run two phases. Running one phase and a neutral
> instead of two phases would reduce the power by the square root
On 5/28/24 12:47, gene heskett wrote:
On 5/28/24 15:29, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Tuesday 28 May 2024 01:49:52 pm Paul M Foster wrote:
I've never see a 3 phase in a house. Common in commercial/industrial,
though.
Residential installations (talking in the US here) typically involve
*one* t
On 5/28/24 00:28, Roger Price wrote:
I wired my place Cat5. A lot of work, and I regretted it. I live in the
hills behind Nice, an area with a lot of lightning. The overhead line
to my place took a hit and thanks to the Cat5 conductivity I lost
equipment.
If your electrical utility uses po
From "Monte Milanuk"
To debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date 28/05/2024 22:42:07
Subject Re: "Repeaters", etc.
On 5/28/24 11:03, rtnetz...@windstream.net wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Paul M Foster"
I've never see a 3 phase in a house.
Quite some years ago my father inquired ab
On 5/28/24 11:03, rtnetz...@windstream.net wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Paul M Foster"
I've never see a 3 phase in a house.
Quite some years ago my father inquired about getting
3 phase power to his house to power a rather husky lathe.
The answers were distributed between "imp
On 5/28/24 10:11, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
Brad Rogers wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2024 11:31:29 +0100
"mick.crane" wrote:
Hello mick.crane,
Is there not some system that runs ethernet over the mains wiring or
did I misunderstand it.
Yes, there is. I believe you're thinking of powerli
On 5/28/24 15:29, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Tuesday 28 May 2024 01:49:52 pm Paul M Foster wrote:
I've never see a 3 phase in a house. Common in commercial/industrial,
though.
Residential installations (talking in the US here) typically involve *one* transformer tapping a single phase out
On 5/28/24 14:23, rtnetz...@windstream.net wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Paul M Foster"
I've never see a 3 phase in a house.
Quite some years ago my father inquired about getting
3 phase power to his house to power a rather husky lathe.
The answers were distributed between "impo
On Tuesday 28 May 2024 01:49:52 pm Paul M Foster wrote:
> I've never see a 3 phase in a house. Common in commercial/industrial,
> though.
Residential installations (talking in the US here) typically involve *one*
transformer tapping a single phase out of the three that are up there on the
pole.
On 5/28/24 14:03, rtnetz...@windstream.net wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Paul M Foster"
I've never see a 3 phase in a house.
Quite some years ago my father inquired about getting
3 phase power to his house to power a rather husky lathe.
The answers were distributed between "impo
On 5/28/24 14:04, Paul M Foster wrote:
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 03:13:26PM -, Curt wrote:
On 2024-05-28, Paul M Foster wrote:
but I'd rather not. Since the wifi signal will permeate the whole house, it
seemed more reasonable to plant a device in each room which could pick up
the wifi, and
Am 28.05.2024 um 20:38:46 Uhr schrieb Thomas Schmitt:
> today i upgraded a Debian 11 system to 12 and am now scratching my
> head over the final steps as described in
>
> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#purge-removed-packages
>
> https://www.de
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 7:08 PM Stefan Monnier wrote:
>
> > I'd like to shop for such a device, but I don't know what it's called.
>
> I think it's called a "wireless bridge".
>
> Any device with a wifi card and (at least) an ethernet port can do that.
> So "any" wifi router will do the trick, as l
Hi,
today i upgraded a Debian 11 system to 12 and am now scratching my head
over the final steps as described in
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#purge-removed-packages
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.h
On Tue, 28 May 2024, Tim Woodall wrote:
I start a new user namespace as follows:
(The special bashrc is just because there are some things in my default
one that (expectedly) don't work in the lxc user namespace)
I then mount an overlayfs on top of that:
fuse-overlayfs -o lowerdir=lower,uppe
- Original Message -
From: "Paul M Foster"
> I've never see a 3 phase in a house.
Quite some years ago my father inquired about getting
3 phase power to his house to power a rather husky lathe.
The answers were distributed between "impossible"
and "prohibitively expensive".
--
Bob Net
On Tue, 28 May 2024 14:01:58 -0400
Paul M Foster wrote:
Hello Paul,
>Nope. On a 3 phase system with individual phases at 120V, you will never
In the UK, each phase is nominally 240V, not 120V. That's why David
mentioned 440V between phases.
--
Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}
On Tue, 28 May 2024 18:11:48 +0100
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
Hello debian-u...@howorth.org.uk,
>I have a powerline adapter (Devolo units). There's no such restriction,
>as far as I know. My powerline transmitter and receiver are certainly
>on different circuits.
Fair enough. Different f
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 03:13:26PM -, Curt wrote:
> On 2024-05-28, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > but I'd rather not. Since the wifi signal will permeate the whole house, it
> > seemed more reasonable to plant a device in each room which could pick up
> > the wifi, and provide wired internet to tha
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 12:29:37PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
[snip]
>
> I was under the impression that 3-phase to a private residence
> contravenes building regulations, as that would make 440V available
> for you to electrocute yourself.
Nope. On a 3 phase system with individual phases at 12
Max, your list looks very similiar to what I'm seeing.
I seem to have suceeded in removing all of the testing packages from
my backup instance, now, just need to flip the ips around and see if
the ship still floats.
The culprits that seemed to be causing the massive dependencies were
libsasl2-2 a
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 01:20:19PM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 06:11:48PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> > Most houses in the UK are wired to a single phase, so everything is
> > connected together at the consumer unit and powerline works just fine.
> > If you
I start a new user namespace as follows:
(The special bashrc is just because there are some things in my default
one that (expectedly) don't work in the lxc user namespace)
lxc-usernsexec -m b:0:689824:65536 -- /bin/bash --rcfile ~/.bashrc.lxc
Inside there I mount a squash fs image that includes
On Tue 28 May 2024 at 18:11:48 (+0100), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Brad Rogers wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 May 2024 11:31:29 +0100 "mick.crane" wrote:
> >
> > >Is there not some system that runs ethernet over the mains wiring or
> > >did I misunderstand it.
> >
> > Yes, there is. I believe
On 29/05/2024 00:00, Michael Grant wrote:
4) dpkg -i libc6_whatever.deb libwhomever.deb
5) Repeat until it works.
Apt is NOT built for downgrading.
Agree.
Ah I see, I did not realise that's what you meant by downgrading it,
thanks.
The thread is becoming excessively long. Have you p
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 06:11:48PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Most houses in the UK are wired to a single phase, so everything is
> connected together at the consumer unit and powerline works just fine.
> If you have a specific problem, then there are DIN rail powerline units
> desi
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 01:00:24PM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> So once I've done this dpkg -i to install a package, I can do that
> without removing the old one first?
Yes, dpkg will upgrade or downgrade the existing package.
> And, once I've hammered a package into place with dpkg, in the futu
Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2024 11:31:29 +0100
> "mick.crane" wrote:
>
> Hello mick.crane,
>
> >Is there not some system that runs ethernet over the mains wiring or
> >did I misunderstand it.
>
> Yes, there is. I believe you're thinking of powerline adaptors. They
> do require eve
On Mon, 27 May 2024, Curt wrote:
On 2024-05-26, Tim Woodall wrote:
Anyone got any ideas how to disable this?
If you have ~/.alpine.passfile apparently it will keep asking, but maybe
you don't, in which case I'm stumped.
Thanks, no that file doesn't exist. I'm a bit stumped too - and ano
> > # apt remove -s libc6
>
> DO NOT do this.
>
> Downgrade it. DO NOT remove it and then hope to reinstall it later.
> Removing libc6 will break everything.
>
> You seem to be flailing, so let me spell this out as explicitly as
> possible. When I say "downgrade a library package", I mean:
>
Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 08:15:36AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> > You're spending the money on a house, which is $LARGESUM. Spend
> > the comparatively small amount of extra money on some form of
> > wiring before you move in, so you don't end up frustrated for
> > two year
On 5/28/24 11:13, Curt wrote:
On 2024-05-28, Paul M Foster wrote:
but I'd rather not. Since the wifi signal will permeate the whole house, it
seemed more reasonable to plant a device in each room which could pick up
the wifi, and provide wired internet to that room.
I don't see why that woul
On 2024-05-28, Paul M Foster wrote:
> but I'd rather not. Since the wifi signal will permeate the whole house, it
> seemed more reasonable to plant a device in each room which could pick up
> the wifi, and provide wired internet to that room.
>
I don't see why that would be more reliable than jus
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 09:12:18AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> > You will most likely need to remove the testing versions of these packages
> > (apache2, git and so on) and then install the bookworm versions afterward.
>
> Those dependent packages (most if not all) are not from testing.
> apache
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 08:15:36AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Paul M Foster wrote:
> > We're moving across the state, and from what I've seen, providers there
> > will do something similar-- provide a router and/or modem which has wired
> > and wireless capabilities. However, because the house is
Hi Marc,
On 20/05/24 at 14:35, Marc SCHAEFER wrote:
3. grub BOOT FAILS IF ANY LV HAS dm-integrity, EVEN IF NOT LINKED TO /
if I reboot now, grub2 complains about rimage issues, clear the screen
and then I am at the grub2 prompt.
Booting is only possible with Debian rescue, disabling the dm-int
On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 17:39, Sébastien Villemot wrote:
> I recently bought a ThinkPad X13 Gen5 (benefiting from the discount
> generously offered by Lenovo to Debian Developers).
>
> The laptop runs Debian Bookworm, and I got almost all the hardware to
> work by using more recent kernel and firm
> So, which part are you confused about? Did you think there was some
> easy way to FIX a frankendebian? Are you confused because you keep
> thinking "there must be some single apt command that will do all the
> work for me"?
>
> There's not. You get to do all the work by hand.
I am trying to
On Tue, 28 May 2024, Michael Grant wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 12:59:34PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
>> So what did it say after that?
>
> Sorry, here's the entire output of one of the tries:
>
> [bottom /etc/mail #1168] apt install libdb5.3/bookworm db5.3-util/bookworm
> db-util/bookworm
>
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 02:02:47PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>
> ISTR that "apt-get install =" will unconditionally
> install of , if necessary pulling in dependencies.
>
> But I've never tried it :-)
That pulls in dependencies but does not install packages that
wo
Paul M Foster wrote:
> We're moving across the state, and from what I've seen, providers there
> will do something similar-- provide a router and/or modem which has wired
> and wireless capabilities. However, because the house is not prewired for
> internet, we must solve the problem of getting in
Andy Smith writes:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 11:31:29AM +0100, mick.crane wrote:
>> Is there not some system that runs ethernet over the mains wiring or did I
>> misunderstand it.
>
> It works extremely poorly, if at all. If wifi works you would prefer
> wifi.
>
Do you mean homeplugs? I
On Tue, 28 May 2024 11:31:29 +0100
"mick.crane" wrote:
Hello mick.crane,
>Is there not some system that runs ethernet over the mains wiring or
>did I misunderstand it.
Yes, there is. I believe you're thinking of powerline adaptors. They
do require everything be on the same circuit, however.
On Tue, 28 May 2024 11:35:25 +
Andy Smith wrote:
Hello Andy,
>people. I don't know that it would add enough value to cover the
>cost of doing it, though.
Almost certainly not; Social housing where I live is non-existent
because, according to the builders, the land costs more than they woul
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 07:09:16AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 06:59:50AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 06:10:11AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> > > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> > > [...] libdb5.3t64 [...]
> >
> > You've *clearly*
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 04:43:38AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> When you say your provider wants to provide you a "wireless router",
> are you implying that you do not have any physically wired
> high-speed internet to this property. As in, the old copper either isn't
> good enough for decent in
Hi,
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 11:31:29AM +0100, mick.crane wrote:
> Is there not some system that runs ethernet over the mains wiring or did I
> misunderstand it.
It works extremely poorly, if at all. If wifi works you would prefer
wifi.
Thanks,
Andy
--
https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS ho
Hello,
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 09:57:18AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, 27 May 2024 18:19:10 -0500
> David Wright wrote:
> >We didn't meet any lack of understanding. Rather, the problem is which
> >rooms do you connect, and precisely where do you place the wallplates.
>
> That's what I mea
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 06:59:50AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 06:10:11AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> > [...] libdb5.3t64 [...]
>
> You've *clearly* still got testing packages installed.
YES. As I originally said, I create
Le 28/05/2024, Harald Dunkel a écrit:
> Full thread is on debian-boot mailing list.
I've read it now, thanks for the info, Harald!
Regards
--
Florent
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 06:10:11AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> [...] libdb5.3t64 [...]
You've *clearly* still got testing packages installed.
On 2024-05-28 09:57, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2024 18:19:10 -0500
David Wright wrote:
Hello David,
We didn't meet any lack of understanding. Rather, the problem is which
rooms do you connect, and precisely where do you place the wallplates.
That's what I meant, really. Christ, th
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 12:59:34PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> So what did it say after that?
Sorry, here's the entire output of one of the tries:
[bottom /etc/mail #1168] apt install libdb5.3/bookworm db5.3-util/bookworm
db-util/bookworm
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree..
On Mon, 27 May 2024 18:19:10 -0500
David Wright wrote:
Hello David,
>We didn't meet any lack of understanding. Rather, the problem is which
>rooms do you connect, and precisely where do you place the wallplates.
That's what I meant, really. Christ, they can't even place power
outlets sensibly
When you say your provider wants to provide you a "wireless router",
are you implying that you do not have any physically wired
high-speed internet to this property. As in, the old copper either isn't
good enough for decent internet and no fibre yet, no cable modem either?
I read your original po
On Mon, 27 May 2024, Paul M Foster wrote:
... and has an RJ45 jack in it in each room. So each room would
have one of these, and the devices in it would be hooked to that device via
cat 5e.
I wired my place Cat5. A lot of work, and I regretted it. I live in the hills
behind Nice, an area wit
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