On Tue 28 May 2024 at 18:11:48 (+0100), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Brad Rogers <b...@fineby.me.uk> wrote: > > On Tue, 28 May 2024 11:31:29 +0100 "mick.crane" wrote: > > > > >Is there not some system that runs ethernet over the mains wiring or > > >did I misunderstand it. > > > > Yes, there is. I believe you're thinking of powerline adaptors. They > > do require everything be on the same circuit, however. > > I have a powerline adapter (Devolo units). There's no such restriction, > as far as I know. My powerline transmitter and receiver are certainly > on different circuits. > > > The way electrical wiring is done in the UK often means separate > > floors are on different circuits, and in larger properties, each > > floor might be on two (or more) circuits, making it difficult, at > > best, to get the whole building networked this way. And that's > > assuming ring circuits, if everything is on a radial, you're stymied. > > Most houses in the UK are wired to a single phase, so everything is > connected together at the consumer unit and powerline works just fine. > If you have a specific problem, then there are DIN rail powerline units > designed specifically to be mounted in the CU to spread the signal > better over ALL the circuits. > > If your house has 3-phase wiring, which is unusual in the UK, then you > may have a problem because powerline signals do need to be on the same > phase.
I was under the impression that 3-phase to a private residence contravenes building regulations, as that would make 440V available for you to electrocute yourself. This house is radially wired, and has two circuit boxes 100 feet apart connected by a 100A cable. Powerline connectors work fine between any points in either half of the house. I have two PL500s (two ports) and two PL1200s (one port), all Netgear. I've temporarily connected this computer to a PL500 in a GFIC socket (kitchen kettle), and backed up my local mailboxes to a computer in the attic in the other half of the house which is on a PL1200. I get 6MB/s transfer speeds. Obviously they didn't work between the two halves when the old half's circuit box was still powered from the easement at the back, and the new half's 200A box powered from the front street. On Tue 28 May 2024 at 07:39:39 (-0400), Paul M Foster wrote: > > We're moving across the state, and from what I've seen, providers there > will do something similar-- provide a router and/or modem which has wired > and wireless capabilities. However, because the house is not prewired for > internet, we must solve the problem of getting internet to the computers > and devices in the house. I'm not a fan of wifi, versus hard-wired > internet. It's not as reliable, and it's slower. Thus, I want cat 5/6 to my > devices. I could possibly wire the house with cat 5/6 through the attic, > but I'd rather not. Since the wifi signal will permeate the whole house, it > seemed more reasonable to plant a device in each room which could pick up > the wifi, and provide wired internet to that room. I can't help thinking that you can "plant a device" on each computer that doesn't have wifi by buying dongles. That is, unless you have more than one computer in a room and they must be wire-interconnected. For good coverage upstairs, I'd get a cable from wherever to the attic and put another router up there. You could feed the signal through the soffits easily enough. Cheers, David.
