Re: iOS AirPlay and CUPS

2019-07-12 Thread john doe
On 7/12/2019 11:54 PM, James Medeiros wrote: > Hi all - > > Maybe this is too vague, but wonder if anyone is aware of general problems > with AirPlay and CUPS. > > I set up an orange Pi today as a print server. Installed cups, cups-daemon, > avahi, etc. and the Samsung printer drivers (it’s an SCX-

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 12 iul 19, 22:40:17, Brian wrote: > On Sat 13 Jul 2019 at 00:17:49 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > This is not about "breaking" Debian, but confusing the user (why does mc > > open gziped files, but not zip?) > > gzip is already on the system (Priority: required), unzip isn't. But a

Re: useless localisation files

2019-07-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 12 iul 19, 13:03:33, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > when installing some packages (chromiun for example), I get a lot of > useless languages (task-marathi-desktop task-nepali-desktop ...) I would argue that no language is useless ;) The localisation files, specific fonts and spelling dicti

Re: Psychedelic GUI after stable update to buster

2019-07-12 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 20:22:55 -0400 ho...@rumormillnews.com wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 17:52:43 -0400 >> ho...@rumormillnews.com wrote: >> >>>Following recent 'buster' move to 'stable' I got wild psychedelic colors >>>on my XFCE desktop, making it nearly impossible to read anything >>>on-scree

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting John Crawley (2019-07-12 22:52:55) > On 2019-07-13 06:39, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > ...some developers wrongly thought that recommends was same as > > suggests and therefore used depends far more than really needed. > > This. Installing with Recommends used to pull in a whole slew of >

Re: useless languages

2019-07-12 Thread David Christensen
On 7/12/19 4:03 AM, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: hi, when installing some packages (chromiun for example), I get a lot of useless languages (task-marathi-desktop task-nepali-desktop ...) Is there a way to get rid of them? best regards, I added the following line to my root .profile to prevent apt-ge

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-07-13 06:39, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: ...some developers wrongly thought that recommends was same as suggests and therefore used depends far more than really needed. This. Installing with Recommends used to pull in a whole slew of things that should have been Suggests, so users got into

Re: Wpa_supplicant Error: No such device

2019-07-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:07:23 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 12 Jul 2019 at 12:36:33 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 06:22:16 - (UTC) > > Bert Riding wrote: > > > > > Yes, I'm sorry I didn't mention that my device name was merely an > > > > Didn't have to. I

Re: Psychedelic GUI after stable update to buster

2019-07-12 Thread hobie
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 17:52:43 -0400 > ho...@rumormillnews.com wrote: > >>Following recent 'buster' move to 'stable' I got wild psychedelic colors >>on my XFCE desktop, making it nearly impossible to read anything >>on-screen. >> >>Normally I'd have display set for 1024x768. I've found I can get n

Re: systemd-container login as root no longer possible?

2019-07-12 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=830255 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=731656 might be related. Does it help if you add pts/0 to /etc/securetty inside your buster container? Would be great if you can report back if that fixes your issue. If you want to use m

Re: Psychedelic GUI after stable update to buster

2019-07-12 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 17:52:43 -0400 ho...@rumormillnews.com wrote: >Following recent 'buster' move to 'stable' I got wild psychedelic colors >on my XFCE desktop, making it nearly impossible to read anything >on-screen. > >Normally I'd have display set for 1024x768. I've found I can get normal >col

Psychedelic GUI after stable update to buster

2019-07-12 Thread hobie
Following recent 'buster' move to 'stable' I got wild psychedelic colors on my XFCE desktop, making it nearly impossible to read anything on-screen. Normally I'd have display set for 1024x768. I've found I can get normal color on the GUI if I switch to 1600x900. However, even then, if I switch t

iOS AirPlay and CUPS

2019-07-12 Thread James Medeiros
Hi all - Maybe this is too vague, but wonder if anyone is aware of general problems with AirPlay and CUPS. I set up an orange Pi today as a print server. Installed cups, cups-daemon, avahi, etc. and the Samsung printer drivers (it’s an SCX-3200) I can print successfully from my other GNU/Linux b

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Brian
On Sat 13 Jul 2019 at 00:17:49 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 12 iul 19, 20:21:08, Reco wrote: > > > > I say - if the user wants to "break" a system by not installing the > > Recommends - let them. Whenever it's curiosity, a way of learning > > something new or just a wish to do an OS lipo

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andrei POPESCU (2019-07-12 18:17:49) > On Vi, 12 iul 19, 20:21:08, Reco wrote: > > I say - if the user wants to "break" a system by not installing the > > Recommends - let them. Whenever it's curiosity, a way of learning > > something new or just a wish to do an OS liposuction. > > Sure.

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 12 iul 19, 20:21:08, Reco wrote: > > I say - if the user wants to "break" a system by not installing the > Recommends - let them. Whenever it's curiosity, a way of learning > something new or just a wish to do an OS liposuction. Sure. Still, I would avoid recommending (ha!) turning off Re

Re: Wpa_supplicant Error: No such device

2019-07-12 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Jul 2019 at 12:36:33 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 06:22:16 - (UTC) > Bert Riding wrote: > > > Yes, I'm sorry I didn't mention that my device name was merely an > > Didn't have to. I understood. It's just wlan0 USED to be the default > 1st wireless device,

Re: Wpa_supplicant Error: No such device

2019-07-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 09:54:14 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 11 iul 19, 19:26:45, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 21:02:44 - (UTC) > > Bert Riding wrote: > > > > > You could try using the actual device for the -i option > > > (interface)...like > > > wlan0 or, in the

Re: Wpa_supplicant Error: No such device

2019-07-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 06:22:16 - (UTC) Bert Riding wrote: > Yes, I'm sorry I didn't mention that my device name was merely an Didn't have to. I understood. It's just wlan0 USED to be the default 1st wireless device, the last time I had to do this with another system about 15 years ago, and I

Re: Xfce4 Applications Appearance.

2019-07-12 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 07/12/2019 01:51 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have just installed Buster with the Xfce Desktop and am finding problems with the appearance of some of the applications in tahat labels and icons are run together. I have attached a screenshot of the Pluma editor. During

Re: Xfce4 Applications Appearance.

2019-07-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I have just installed Buster with the Xfce Desktop and am finding problems > with the appearance of some of the applications in tahat labels and icons > are run together. I have attached a screenshot of the Pluma editor. > > During the installation of Buster I didn't a

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 12 Jul 2019 at 20:21:08 +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 12:24:49PM -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:34:17) > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29AM -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > > Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:01:33) > > > > > >

Xfce4 Applications Appearance.

2019-07-12 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I have just installed Buster with the Xfce Desktop and am finding problems with the appearance of some of the applications in tahat labels and icons are run together. I have attached a screenshot of the Pluma editor. During the installation of Buster I didn't add any icon sets. I did not enc

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 12:24:49PM -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:34:17) > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29AM -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:01:33) > > > > > > Disabling installing Recommends by default also helps a grea

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 12 Jul 2019 at 12:24:49 -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:34:17) > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29AM -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:01:33) > > > > > > Disabling installing Recommends by default also helps a great > > > > > > d

Re: [Off-topic]

2019-07-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 08:52:57AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > To me, Bigcorp is like state (minus First Amendment). > > Businesses don't have armies. Or do they? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_Worldwide Reco

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 12 Jul 2019 at 11:23:56 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Stephan Seitz (2019-07-12 09:30:38) > > > On Fr, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29 -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > >Wrong. Suggests are for packages useful only "sometimes", recommends > > > >are for pacakg

Re: Black screen after fresh install of buster

2019-07-12 Thread Daniel Harris
Just for the record, reluctantly I installed the nvidia drivers from non-free and all is now working perfectly but I would like to use the *nouveau drivers. Why they are not working when they worked perfectly in the previous stable version of debian?* *Dan* On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 6:57 PM Danie

Re: systemd-container login as root no longer possible?

2019-07-12 Thread Ulf Volmer
On 12.07.19 03:20, arne wrote: > # machinectl login mycontainer > > gives me a login screen > > When I enter "root" > no password prompt is shown Did you checked /etc/securetty in your container? This is the most common cause for this kind of error. Best regards Ulf

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:34:17) > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29AM -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:01:33) > > > > > Disabling installing Recommends by default also helps a great > > > > > deal with all those dependencies you don't want. > > > > > > > > Above ma

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Stephan Seitz (2019-07-12 09:30:38) > > On Fr, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29 -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > >Wrong. Suggests are for packages useful only "sometimes", recommends > > >are for pacakges needed in "all but unusual installations." > > > > From my expe

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Stephan Seitz (2019-07-12 09:30:38) > On Fr, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29 -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >Wrong. Suggests are for packages useful only "sometimes", recommends > >are for pacakges needed in "all but unusual installations." > > From my experience this is wrong. > > With recom

Re: Where'd lsb-compat go?

2019-07-12 Thread Kent West
On 7/11/19 10:04 PM, Dominic Knight wrote: On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 13:48 -0500, Kent West wrote: Two issues: 1) I have several Debian boxes running as kiosks, and reporting to a centralized Quest-branded "Systems Management Appliance" (SMA). With a recent update to the SMA, the Debian boxes st

Re: [Off-topic]

2019-07-12 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 08:52:57AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomas writes: > > You can't easily monetize mail (the interfaces are standard, for a > > consumer it's easy to change providers) > > Gmail. The only interface that matters to most people is the user > interface they see in their brows

[Off-topic]

2019-07-12 Thread John Hasler
tomas writes: > You can't easily monetize mail (the interfaces are standard, for a > consumer it's easy to change providers) Gmail. The only interface that matters to most people is the user interface they see in their browser and that is not standardized. > I have the impression you're being bl

Re: Minimial Live Image

2019-07-12 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 7/12/19 1:38 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Jul 11, 2019, at 11:06 AM, J.Arun Mani wrote: Hi Im planning to install Debian in my (already Linux Mint powered) laptop. But the ISO size is huge (~2.7 GB), something beyond my per-day bandwidth limit of 1.5 GB (actually 2 GB, but .5 GB is spent

Re: [SOLVED] tailf vs buster

2019-07-12 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 08:46:19AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 11:35:20AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > I don't dispute that RedHat did a lot of good things - good chunks of > > the libc, gcc and a kernel itself is wrote by them. > > On the other side though we have some really c

Re: Repair Grumb (grub)

2019-07-12 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 7/12/19 3:08 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: Plese see responses to questions. .  .  .  . On 07/11/2019 11:16 PM, David wrote: On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 05:09, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have Stretch installed  on sda1 and Buster installed on sdd1 on my 64bit Linux platform. Unfortunately, grub

Re: [SOLVED] tailf vs buster

2019-07-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 11:35:20AM +0300, Reco wrote: > I don't dispute that RedHat did a lot of good things - good chunks of > the libc, gcc and a kernel itself is wrote by them. > On the other side though we have some really controversial things like > SecureBoot support, Wayland, GTK3, xfs, and

Re: memory fault after "cd xxx"

2019-07-12 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: Hmmm. How about checking your RAM , a memtest. thanks for your answer, but meanwhile, I upgraded fron Stretch to Buster, and the problem disappeared... I don't know whether the fix comes from the upgrade, or just the reboot... best regards, -- Pi

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29AM -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:01:33) > > > > Disabling installing Recommends by default also helps a great deal > > > > with all those dependencies you don't want. > > > > > > Above may break your system in confusing to debug ways,

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Fr, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29 -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Wrong. Suggests are for packages useful only "sometimes", recommends are for pacakges needed in "all but unusual installations." From my experience this is wrong. With recommends my d10 update would have systemd as init instead of

Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:01:33) > > > Disabling installing Recommends by default also helps a great deal > > > with all those dependencies you don't want. > > > > Above may break your system in confusing to debug ways, > > Rly? Recommends are called that for a reason. Yes, and the reason is

Re: Repair Grumb

2019-07-12 Thread songbird
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I have Stretch installed on sda1 and Buster installed on sdd1 on my > 64bit Linux platform. > > Unfortunately, grub on sdd1 became corrupted and the boot process fails > after Buster is selected. Fortunately, the Stretch grub still boots the > system. Also, I can acc

Re: useless languages

2019-07-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 08:37:09AM -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > apt install chromium task-marathi-desktop- task-nepali-desktop- ...- > > Above would help if chromium was recommending task-* packages which it > doesn't on Debian, so for Debian systems I doubt that would help her

Re: useless languages

2019-07-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Pierre, Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 08:09:03) > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 01:03:33PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > > when installing some packages (chromiun for example), I get a lot of > > useless languages (task-marathi-desktop task-nepali-desktop ...) Is > > there a way to get rid of them? O

Re: Flatpak or repository apps

2019-07-12 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:33:44AM +0300, Georgios wrote: > Hi there! > > Based on security and stability i was wondering what is more preferable? > > Installing apps through flatpak or through debian repositories? I trust Debian at packaging software, correcting obvious software defects in the

Re: Repair Grumb (grub)

2019-07-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 12 Jul 2019 at 06:08:13 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > Plese see responses to questions. . . . . > > On 07/11/2019 11:16 PM, David wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 05:09, Stephen P. Molnar > > wrote: > > > I have Stretch installed on sda1 and Buster installed on sdd1 on my > > >

Re: useless languages

2019-07-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 01:03:33PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > when installing some packages (chromiun for example), I get a lot of > useless languages (task-marathi-desktop task-nepali-desktop ...) > Is there a way to get rid of them? apt install chromium task-marathi-deskt

useless languages

2019-07-12 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
hi, when installing some packages (chromiun for example), I get a lot of useless languages (task-marathi-desktop task-nepali-desktop ...) Is there a way to get rid of them? best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel

Re: Repair Grumb (grub)

2019-07-12 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
Plese see responses to questions. . . . . On 07/11/2019 11:16 PM, David wrote: On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 05:09, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have Stretch installed on sda1 and Buster installed on sdd1 on my 64bit Linux platform. Unfortunately, grub on sdd1 became corrupted and the boot process

Re: [SOLVED] tailf vs buster

2019-07-12 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 11:35:20AM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:55:03AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 06:55:43PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Figures. RedHat deserves whatever IBM will do to them. > > > > You seem to be

Re: Minimial Live Image

2019-07-12 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Jul 11, 2019, at 11:06 AM, J.Arun Mani wrote: > > Hi > > Im planning to install Debian in my (already Linux Mint powered) laptop. But > the ISO size is huge (~2.7 GB), something beyond my per-day bandwidth limit > of 1.5 GB (actually 2 GB, but .5 GB is spent in other personal things).

Re: chromebook

2019-07-12 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 07:57:33AM -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-12, wrote: > > > > > > I have the impression you're being blindsided by ideology there. To me, > > C’est l’hôpital qui se moque de la charité. :-) But still, *my* ideology is right and *yours* is wrong ;-P Cheers -- t signat

Re: [SOLVED] tailf vs buster

2019-07-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:55:03AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 06:55:43PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > [...] > > > Figures. RedHat deserves whatever IBM will do to them. > > You seem to be unaware of what RedHat has done for all of us. On the contrary. I'm pe

Re: Where'd lsb-compat go?

2019-07-12 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 13:48 -0500, Kent West wrote: [..] > Today, > when I go to install "lsb-compat" on the other's, I find it's no longer > available in Buster. Has it been deprecated? Seems so, Googling for "debian lsb-compat buster" shows... https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=

Re: Upgrade to Buster and perl Device::SerialPort

2019-07-12 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 05:39:28PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 7/11/19 1:29 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 07:53:23PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > >>On 7/10/19 10:39 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: > >>>David Christensen writes: > > > >[...] > > > >Good points all

Re: chromebook

2019-07-12 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-12, wrote: > > > I have the impression you're being blindsided by ideology there. To me, C’est l’hôpital qui se moque de la charité. -- “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” ― Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan

Re: [SOLVED] tailf vs buster

2019-07-12 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 06:55:43PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > Figures. RedHat deserves whatever IBM will do to them. You seem to be unaware of what RedHat has done for all of us. Cheers -- tomás signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: chromebook

2019-07-12 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:34:01AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomas writes: > > I think bigcorps love that, because they hate the decentralized nature > > of mail. > > I don't think they care (except that they don't want one of their > competitors in control). Oh, they do. You can't easily mone

Re: HTML mail

2019-07-12 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 01:00:11PM -0600, Thomas D Dial wrote: > On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 14:46 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > My bank offers a standardized protocol based on public key > > cryptography. [...] > > No browser involved. > > Can you name the bank? It has annoyed me for bet

Re: Flatpak or repository apps

2019-07-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 12 iul 19, 09:33:44, Georgios wrote: > Hi there! > > Based on security and stability i was wondering what is more preferable? > > Installing apps through flatpak or through debian repositories? This is quite generic. It would help if you provided concrete examples of software that is ava