On Fri 12 Jul 2019 at 12:24:49 -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:34:17) > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29AM -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:01:33) > > > > > > Disabling installing Recommends by default also helps a great > > > > > > deal with all those dependencies you don't want. > > > > > > > > > > Above may break your system in confusing to debug ways, > > > > > > > > Rly? Recommends are called that for a reason. > > > > > > Yes, and the reason is well defined: Packages requires in "all but > > > unusual installations." - quoted from Debian Policy ยง7.2. > > > > This only shows us that one can prove anything by using selective > > quoting. Full quote, btw is: > > > > This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. > > The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together > > with this one in all but unusual installations. > > > > > > Therefore Debian Policy explicitly says that Recommends are not > > required. > > Sorry if you feel that I mislead you by quoting narrowly. I fail to > recognize how your larger quote changes my point of mine, however. > > Indeed Debian policy do not _require_ recommendations. They do however > recommend to install them except in unusual installations. > > Turning off recommendations is saying "this system is unusual in all > possible ways" which I insist is wrong and bad advice!
I would like to bore everyone with my activities over the past few days. There is a thin client; it has one task to do and has 945M of disk space to do it in. Try it sometime. I have to carefully read the outputs of 'apt show' and test. The default package installation is with --no-install-recommends. Tedious and time- consuming, but I get what I want. Miss a recommendation and I'm stuffed. Are you an average user? Lots of disk space? Want a trouble-free system? Stick with the default installing recommended packages advice. -- Brian.
