Re: Testing netinstall, but use stable release?

2019-05-08 Thread didier gaumet
Le 08/05/2019 à 22:47, Rory Campbell-Lange a écrit : [..] > I downloaded debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso on 29 April but having > just tested this I'm not getting a choice of distribution. I'm in expert > mode (console) -- perhaps I'll try again on the graphical version. [..] Hello Rory, being i

Re: Testing netinstall, but use stable release?

2019-05-08 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
Hi David On 08/05/19, David Christensen (dpchr...@holgerdanske.com) wrote: > On 5/8/19 10:32 AM, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > I'm setting up some servers with A2SDi-8C-HLN4F motherboards with Intel > > x553 cards that require the ixgbe kernel module. > > > > The latest stable netinstall image a

Re: Testing netinstall, but use stable release?

2019-05-08 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 08/05/19, Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk) wrote: > On Wed 08 May 2019 at 22:12:41 +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > > On 08/05/19, Rory Campbell-Lange (r...@campbell-lange.net) wrote: > > > On 08/05/19, Andy Smith (a...@strugglers.net) wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 06:32:43PM +0100, R

Re: Help tracking down a random beep

2019-05-08 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 5/8/19, Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Wed, 8 May 2019 20:32:49 -0400 > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >>On my Debian Jessie system, for several hours today I've been hearing a >> beep >>(through my audio system / speakers / headphones) something like the beep >> that >>used to come out of the PC spe

Re: Help tracking down a random beep

2019-05-08 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Wed, 8 May 2019 20:32:49 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >On my Debian Jessie system, for several hours today I've been hearing a beep >(through my audio system / speakers / headphones) something like the beep that >used to come out of the PC speaker (on older computers -- I don't think I eve

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread Ben Finney
Ian Jackson writes: > Vipul writes ("Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community"): > > Is there a way to get isolation for work & contribution purpose to > > keep yourself organized? I can get isolation by using Docker image > > or install one more copy of Debian in PC and switch between

Help tracking down a random beep

2019-05-08 Thread rhkramer
On my Debian Jessie system, for several hours today I've been hearing a beep (through my audio system / speakers / headphones) something like the beep that used to come out of the PC speaker (on older computers -- I don't think I even have that speaker connected on this computer). The beep occu

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:27 PM Vipul wrote: > I've been using Debian from couples of years but haven't contributed yet back > to community. There are a number of different ways to contribute to Debian: https://www.debian.org/intro/help > I want to contribute to Debian by maintaining packages a

Re: Testing netinstall, but use stable release?

2019-05-08 Thread Brian
On Wed 08 May 2019 at 22:12:41 +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > On 08/05/19, Rory Campbell-Lange (r...@campbell-lange.net) wrote: > > On 08/05/19, Andy Smith (a...@strugglers.net) wrote: > > > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 06:32:43PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > > > Is there a clever way of

Re: apache2 missing a file, won't run.

2019-05-08 Thread Brian
On Wed 08 May 2019 at 18:00:01 -, Dan Purgert wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > > You have a PPD in /etc/cups/ppd for the printer. What do the > > hm, nope. > > $ ls /etc/cups/ppd > ls: cannot access '/etc/cups/ppd': No such file or directory Very interesting; cups-core-drivers is designed to

Re: Testing netinstall, but use stable release?

2019-05-08 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 08/05/19, Rory Campbell-Lange (r...@campbell-lange.net) wrote: > On 08/05/19, Andy Smith (a...@strugglers.net) wrote: > > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 06:32:43PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > > Is there a clever way of downgrading the installation to stable while > > > keeping the testing ker

Re: Testing netinstall, but use stable release?

2019-05-08 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
Hi Andy On 08/05/19, Andy Smith (a...@strugglers.net) wrote: > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 06:32:43PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > Is there a clever way of downgrading the installation to stable while > > keeping the testing kernel and associated ixgbe module? > > If you run the daily netins

Re: Get the timezone from an IP address

2019-05-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 08:34:36PM +0100, André Rodier wrote: On Wed, 2019-05-08 at 21:57 +0300, Mindaugas Celiesius wrote: Did you check this? https://packages.debian.org/stretch/geoip-bin > Hi, > > Is there any way - or Debian package - to know the timezone from an IP > address, or at least f

Re: Get the timezone from an IP address

2019-05-08 Thread André Rodier
On Wed, 2019-05-08 at 15:03 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:43:58PM +0100, André Rodier wrote: > > Is there any way - or Debian package - to know the timezone from an IP > > address, or at least from a country? I have successfully used the geoip > > databases to get the cou

Re: Testing netinstall, but use stable release?

2019-05-08 Thread David Christensen
On 5/8/19 10:32 AM, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: I'm setting up some servers with A2SDi-8C-HLN4F motherboards with Intel x553 cards that require the ixgbe kernel module. The latest stable netinstall image allows one to load the ixgbe module but the network interfaces aren't seen. However, the late

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Joe
On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:31:35 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > > And this is windows 10 HOME EDITION, so there is no place to "run as > admin" in the start menu's. > It can't join a domain, but otherwise there's not much difference in versions. > > Anyway, in Home Edition of W10, how the heck do yo

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Joe
On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:09:16 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > > I'm also well pleased that I'm not being chastised for winders here, > thank you very much for that. On the whole, Debian is for grown-ups, not the Linux nutters. I've earned a fair bit of money from Windows in the past, and I still ne

Re: Get the timezone from an IP address

2019-05-08 Thread Darac Marjal
On 08/05/2019 19:43, André Rodier wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any way - or Debian package - to know the timezone from an IP > address, or at least from a country? I have successfully used the geoip > databases to get the country, so I could use the main city as an > approximation. > > I would prefe

Re: Get the timezone from an IP address

2019-05-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:43:58PM +0100, André Rodier wrote: Is there any way - or Debian package - to know the timezone from an IP address, or at least from a country? I have successfully used the geoip databases to get the country, so I could use the main city as an approximation. I would pre

Re: Get the timezone from an IP address

2019-05-08 Thread Mindaugas Celiesius
Did you check this? https://packages.debian.org/stretch/geoip-bin > Hi, > > Is there any way - or Debian package - to know the timezone from an IP > address, or at least from a country? I have successfully used the geoip > databases to get the country, so I could use the main city as an > approxi

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 04:55:47 am john doe wrote: > On 5/8/2019 10:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 > >> > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Greetings all; > >>> > >>> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a

Re: Testing netinstall, but use stable release?

2019-05-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Rory, On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 06:32:43PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > Is there a clever way of downgrading the installation to stable while > keeping the testing kernel and associated ixgbe module? If you run the daily netinst in expert mode doesn't it let you pick the release you want

Usefulness of adding APT::Default-Release

2019-05-08 Thread David Wright
I'm trying to ascertain what APT::Default-Release can do for me, and what it constrains. In the output that follows, why does APT::Default-Release prevent firefox from being upgraded? I comment out the APT::Default-Release line and repeat after the ##. The necessary packages are in apt-cac

Re: apache2 missing a file, won't run.

2019-05-08 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Brian wrote: > On Tue 07 May 2019 at 18:40:15 -, Dan Purgert wrote: > >> > There is enough misinformation in Gene's post without adding more. :) >> > Both the LPR and the CUPSwrapper printer driver packages are required. >> > One contains a PPD a

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 04:55:47 am john doe wrote: > On 5/8/2019 10:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 > >> > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Greetings all; > >>> > >>> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a

Re: update to new kernel

2019-05-08 Thread Default User
On Wed, May 8, 2019, 13:23 Marko Randjelovic wrote: > On Wed, 8 May 2019 11:49:18 -0400 > Default User wrote: > > > So, since > > linux-image-4.19.0-5-amd64 - Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs > > (signed) > > seems to be available, why did updating not update the kernel from > > linux-

Re: Shell game? was Re: pmount could perhaps be of greater utility?

2019-05-08 Thread KHMan
On 5/9/2019 12:34 AM, David Wright wrote: On Wed 08 May 2019 at 14:08:03 (+0800), KHMan wrote: On Tue 07 May 2019 at 10:12:10 (+1000), David wrote: On Mon, 6 May 2019 at 23:53, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 06.05.19 09:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, May 04, 2019 at 01:48:01PM +0200, Jonas Sme

Testing netinstall, but use stable release?

2019-05-08 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
I'm setting up some servers with A2SDi-8C-HLN4F motherboards with Intel x553 cards that require the ixgbe kernel module. The latest stable netinstall image allows one to load the ixgbe module but the network interfaces aren't seen. However, the latest testing netinstall sees the network interfaces

RE: debian-user-digest Digest V2019 #415

2019-05-08 Thread DebianNewbie
Gene: I'm still using Win7, but the process should be similar on Win10: Find "Control Panel" Choose "View by" (Small or Large) Icons. This shows all control panel items. Click "Network and Sharing Center" Click "Change adapter Settings" (upper left corner) Right-click "Local Area Connection" and

Re: update to new kernel

2019-05-08 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Wed, 8 May 2019 11:49:18 -0400 Default User wrote: > So, since > linux-image-4.19.0-5-amd64 - Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs > (signed) > seems to be available, why did updating not update the kernel from > linux-image-4.19.0-4-amd64 to linux-image-4.19.0-5-amd64? Because linux-im

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread ghe
On 5/8/19 7:33 AM, Gard Spreemann wrote: > I find that cowbuilder [1] does this job fine for my needs. If I need to > test a more involved graphical user experience for a different release > than the one I run, I just spin up a VM. Or you could just buy an additional computer and dban the MS bits

Re: notify-send script messed up my environment

2019-05-08 Thread David Wright
On Wed 08 May 2019 at 08:33:05 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 11:23:46PM +0200, Esteban L wrote: > > pid=$(pgrep -u $username nautilus) > > This may produce more than one value. > The script you've got is not designed to handle the case where pgrep finds > more than one p

Re: Shell game? was Re: pmount could perhaps be of greater utility?

2019-05-08 Thread David Wright
On Wed 08 May 2019 at 14:08:03 (+0800), KHMan wrote: > > On Tue 07 May 2019 at 10:12:10 (+1000), David wrote: > > > On Mon, 6 May 2019 at 23:53, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > > On 06.05.19 09:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Sat, May 04, 2019 at 01:48:01PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > [sn

Re: update to new kernel

2019-05-08 Thread Default User
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 12:21 PM Tixy wrote: > On Wed, 2019-05-08 at 11:49 -0400, Default User wrote: > [...] > > And, BTW, when will Unstable ever get into the 5.x.x kernel series? > > Not until after Buster is released I assume. > > -- > Tixy > > : (

Re: update to new kernel

2019-05-08 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2019-05-08 at 11:49 -0400, Default User wrote: [...] > And, BTW, when will Unstable ever get into the 5.x.x kernel series? Not until after Buster is released I assume. -- Tixy

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Vipul writes ("Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community"): > I've been using Debian from couples of years but haven't contributed > yet back to community. I want to contribute to Debian by maintaining > packages and fixing bugs. Since I'm using Debian for work purpose > also so, I don't

update to new kernel

2019-05-08 Thread Default User
Hello. I run Debian Unstable, Linux [user] 4.19.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.28-2 (2019-03-15) x86_64 GNU/Linux, up to date. Today, I did sudo aptitude -Pvv update as usual. Result: Current status: 0 (+0) broken, 4 (+4) upgradable, 59005 (-1) new. There is 1 newly obsolete package: linux-image-

Re: Laptop fails to suspend

2019-05-08 Thread Sam Smith
On 4/27/19 5:25 PM, Sam Smith wrote: On 3/30/19 2:07 AM, Andrea Borgia wrote: Il 30/03/19 00:56, Sam Smith ha scritto: I have an older Lenovo T520 laptop that I've ran Debian on for years and I have never had any issues with putting it to "sleep" or suspending when closing the lid. However a

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread finn
Hi Francisco, > Hello, I would be very interested in the answers to that, too. Vipul, I > suggest you subscribe to this mailing list, as well as debian- mentors. That > should make things easier. Cheers, Francisco I have subscribed this mail-list using separate email address. Cheers, Vipul

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread Steffen Möller
Hi Vipul, On 08.05.19 15:26, Vipul wrote: Hey there, I've been using Debian from couples of years but haven't contributed yet back to community. I want to contribute to Debian by maintaining packages and fixing bugs. This is very timely since the next Debian release, buster, is just waiting fo

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread songbird
Vipul wrote: ... > I've been using Debian from couples of years but haven't contributed yet b= > ack to community. I want to contribute to Debian by maintaining packages a= > nd fixing bugs. Since I'm using Debian for work purpose also so, I don't w= > ant to mess-up=C2=A0 with my system by install

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread Paul Sutton
On 08/05/2019 14:32, Francisco M Neto wrote: > Hello, > > I would be very interested in the answers to that, too. > > Vipul, I sugges you subscribe to this mailing list, as well as debian- > mentors. That should make things easier. > > Cheers, > Francisco If I also find anyone who m

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread Gard Spreemann
Vipul writes: > Hey there, > > I've been using Debian from couples of years but haven't contributed yet back > to community. I want to contribute to Debian by maintaining packages and > fixing bugs. Since I'm using Debian for work purpose also so, I don't want to > mess-up with my system by

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread Francisco M Neto
Hello, I would be very interested in the answers to that, too. Vipul, I sugges you subscribe to this mailing list, as well as debian- mentors. That should make things easier. Cheers, Francisco On Wed, 2019-05-08 at 13:26 +, Vipul wrote: > Hey there, > > I've been using Deb

Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread Vipul
Hey there, I've been using Debian from couples of years but haven't contributed yet back to community. I want to contribute to Debian by maintaining packages and fixing bugs. Since I'm using Debian for work purpose also so, I don't want to mess-up  with my system by installing unstable packages

Re: notify-send script messed up my environment

2019-05-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 11:23:46PM +0200, Esteban L wrote: > pid=$(pgrep -u $username nautilus) This may produce more than one value. > dbus=$(grep -z DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS /proc/$pid/environ | sed > 's/DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=//' ) This one tries to use the value of $pid but if that variabl

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-08, Gene Heskett wrote: > > That is a laborius process, taking at least 10x what any of my linux > machines need to reboot. From powerup to login was at least 15 minutes. > > And I have been to that utility, but it has no place to disable ipv6 as a > whole, has lots of names in the me

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread john doe
On 5/8/2019 10:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 >> >> Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Greetings all; >>> >>> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. >>> It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhood

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Joe
On Wed, 8 May 2019 03:55:03 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > > That is a laborius process, taking at least 10x what any of my linux > machines need to reboot. From powerup to login was at least 15 > minutes. Very definitely not right. Maybe it feels outnumbered... > > And I have been to that uti

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote: > On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. > > It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of which > > are secured. > > Second

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread mick crane
On 2019-05-08 08:55, Gene Heskett wrote: That is a laborius process, taking at least 10x what any of my linux machines need to reboot. From powerup to login was at least 15 minutes. And I have been to that utility, but it has no place to disable ipv6 as a whole, has lots of names in the menu I

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 02:16:29 am mick crane wrote: > On 2019-05-07 23:47, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. > > > > > > Cheers, Gene (I need some winders help ) Heskett > > usually bottom left corner click windows icon

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Joe
On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. > It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of which > are secured. > Second, its like stretch seems locked to ipv6 but its ipv4 for at > lea

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread tomas
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:16:29AM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2019-05-07 23:47, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Greetings all; > > > >First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. > > > > >Cheers, Gene (I need some winders help ) Heskett > > usually bottom left corner click windows icon