Re: Security hole in LXDE?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 09:00:15PM +1100, Davor Balder wrote: > Hi Hans, > > Question 1 which one: stable, testing or unstable? IMHO if it's not stated then stable is to be assumed. Users who run testing/sid are generally expected to have some degree of troubleshooting knowledge (the clue is in

Re: Thin Client

On Fri, 2017-03-24 at 19:48 +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 24 Mar 2017 at 19:20:54 +, David wrote: > > > Dear Group, > > > > Has anybody put Debian onto a thin client? > > > > If so what version? > > > > I'm going to try soon, so if there's any guidance I'd appreciate > > it. > > Much, much,

Re: udev doesn't like systemd-shim

On 03/22/2017 10:05 PM, David Griffith wrote: I switched to sysvinit by following the directions at http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation This seemed to work until I tried to install sshfs whereupon I got this: E: /usr/share/initr

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Fri 24 Mar 2017 at 18:46:43 (-0400), Catherine Gramze wrote: > > > On Mar 24, 2017, at 6:05 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > >> On Fri 24 Mar 2017 at 15:44:15 (-0400), Catherine Gramze wrote: > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >>> > >>> but

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

Catherine Gramze wrote: > On Mar 24, 2017, at 6:05 PM, David Wright wrote: >> Here's the netinst installation menu after Advanced/Expert options >> have been chosen. The asterisks are mine, and show what's probably >> the most typical path from start to finish (in order). >> At which step is the r

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

> On Mar 24, 2017, at 6:05 PM, David Wright wrote: > >> On Fri 24 Mar 2017 at 15:44:15 (-0400), Catherine Gramze wrote: >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>> >>> but that went away years ago. At the end of the single installer run, >>> it should be

zenity --text-info autoscrolling?

In interactive shell scripts I like piping output into zenity --text-info for display. If the output is more than fits in the zenity window, any additional lines will be too far down to display unless the user manually scrolls down to the bottom of the text. Does anyone know if there is a way to

Re: Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1?

On 25/03/17 01:40, Tom Browder wrote: 1. What specific model of USB wireless ethernet adaptor does anyone recommend that has worked for them out of the box? TP-Link TL-WN722N: http://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/cat-5520_TL-WN722N.html This device is supported by the ath9k_htc kernel m

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Fri 24 Mar 2017 at 15:44:15 (-0400), Catherine Gramze wrote: > Sent from my iPad > > > On Mar 24, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > > but that went away years ago. At the end of the single installer run, > > it should be finished. Do you mean "reboots into the newly installed > >

ftp client's "ls" is "!ls"

I'm ftp'ing to a Dell/Quest K1000 System Management appliance, from a Debian 9.0 box, and when I execute the command "ls" or "del" or do a tab-completion, the commands act on the local directory instead of the remote, so that "ls" acts like "!ls". I've tried different terminals, different shells,

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

On Thu 23 Mar 2017 at 11:29:38 (+), Brian wrote: > On Thu 23 Mar 2017 at 10:12:57 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 08:08:28PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >On 03/17/2017 08:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >>As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. > > >>Al

Re: repairing damage to package manager

Chuck Hallenbeck: > > One more O.T. observation: Debian let me do a truly dumb thing, but I > wouldn't have it any other way. That's the spirit! J. -- If I am asked 'How are you' more than a million times in my life I promise to explode. [Agree] [Disagree]

Re: Package name HELP!

On 3/24/17, Ayoub Hamdaoui wrote: > Hi, I am using Debian 9 (Testing) with KDE > when I press hotkeys for disabling touchpad (FN + F1) the touchpad got > disabled but when I press the combination again it sends disable command > again! it doesn't toggle thee state, it disable it in all cases! so I

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

Sent from my iPad > On Mar 24, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > but that went away years ago. At the end of the single installer run, > it should be finished. Do you mean "reboots into the newly installed > system" instead, maybe? > Yes, it boots into that bare bones system before

Re: repairing damage to package manager

Hi J., On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 08:47:18PM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Chuck Hallenbeck: > > > > # apt-get remove upgrade-system apt > > Nice one! This brightens my day a little as it reminds me how I found > out the relationship betweent the commands available on MSDOS 5.0 and > the contents

Re: Thin Client

On Fri 24 Mar 2017 at 19:20:54 +, David wrote: > Dear Group, > > Has anybody put Debian onto a thin client? > > If so what version? > > I'm going to try soon, so if there's any guidance I'd appreciate it. Much, much, much too wide a question. Please narrow it down to some specfic client.

Re: repairing damage to package manager

Chuck Hallenbeck: > > # apt-get remove upgrade-system apt Nice one! This brightens my day a little as it reminds me how I found out the relationship betweent the commands available on MSDOS 5.0 and the contents of the C:\DOS directory. :) I don't know how many times I had deleted stuff from there

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Fri 24 Mar 2017 at 18:23:26 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Catherine Gramze wrote: > > > >The point of free software is not to cater to your personal > >preferences, or mine, but to make that software accessible and useful > >to the greatest number of people. The netinst installer doesn't do >

Re: repairing damage to package manager

Hi, On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 03:22:06PM -0400, songbird wrote: > Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > ... > > I presume you are suggesting using wget to retrieve the missing > > packages after identifying their URL's? > > if you haven't cleared /var/cache/apt/archives you > can check what is in there by:

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On 2017-03-24, Catherine Gramze wrote: > > > > > Sent from my iPad >> On Mar 24, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Curt wrote: >> >> I'd just wish you'd wrap your lines in accordance to rule number 87 of the >> "Debian Etiquette Guidelines," by I.M. Sikothis. > > Thank you for mentioning this. I was not aware t

Thin Client

Dear Group, Has anybody put Debian onto a thin client? If so what version? I'm going to try soon, so if there's any guidance I'd appreciate it. David.

Re: repairing damage to package manager

Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: ... > I presume you are suggesting using wget to retrieve the missing > packages after identifying their URL's? if you haven't cleared /var/cache/apt/archives you can check what is in there by: $ ls /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb | grep apt and see what versions are show

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

Sent from my iPad > On Mar 24, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Curt wrote: > > I'd just wish you'd wrap your lines in accordance to rule number 87 of the > "Debian Etiquette Guidelines," by I.M. Sikothis. Thank you for mentioning this. I was not aware that my iPad does not wrap lines appropriately for ev

Package name HELP!

Hi, I am using Debian 9 (Testing) with KDE when I press hotkeys for disabling touchpad (FN + F1) the touchpad got disabled but when I press the combination again it sends disable command again! it doesn't toggle thee state, it disable it in all cases! so I want to know the package name to report !

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

Catherine Gramze wrote:> >> On Mar 23, 2017, at 9:22 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >> Catherine, I'm curious - when was the last time you installed Debian >> using d-i? I've now seen you several times write (like above) about >> "backing out of the installer after the reboot". Are you talking abou

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

On Wed 22 Mar 2017 at 20:08:28 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/17/2017 08:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. > >Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh > >install to a different partition. > >It is annoying to keep re-s

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 15:18:31 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 24 March 2017 12:06:58 Joe wrote: > > I've mentioned recently that I once did a non-expert netinstall, in > > the days when I used static addresses and no DHCP, and was miffed > > to find I had no network interfaces at the end of th

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

Catherine Gramze wrote: > >The point of free software is not to cater to your personal >preferences, or mine, but to make that software accessible and useful >to the greatest number of people. The netinst installer doesn't do >that when it allows a very broken installation to result. There will >in

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On 2017-03-23, Catherine Gramze wrote: > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >> Please calm down, why the aggression? :-( > > Lisi is incensed with my suggestion that the netinst installer should refuse > to continue if no network c Cathy I'd just w

Re: Unattended upgrades.

On Friday 24 March 2017 17:34:58 Teemu Likonen wrote: > Lisi Reisz [2017-03-24 17:13:21Z] wrote: > > On Friday 24 March 2017 09:56:23 didier gaumet wrote: > >> # dpkg-reconfigure -plow unattended-upgrades > > > > This is what I had missed! I have now run it. > > The command creates file /etc/apt/a

Re: A bit OT: Amanda Restore

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:51:27AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > A while back I installed Amanda for backups. I have a pretty simple > setup at the moment which I may expand later. At the moment only one > machine, running Jessie, is backed up by Amanda. > > My main PC is both the Amanda server

Re: Unattended upgrades.

Lisi Reisz [2017-03-24 17:13:21Z] wrote: > On Friday 24 March 2017 09:56:23 didier gaumet wrote: >> # dpkg-reconfigure -plow unattended-upgrades > > This is what I had missed! I have now run it. The command creates file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades: APT::Periodic::Update-Package-List

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On 2017-03-24, Andy Smith wrote: > > It can be useful to note the names of people who can't seem to > prevent themselves from writing argumentative and massively > off-topic responses over and over again. It's a relatively small but > vocal list. Right. Let's write the names down and communicate

Re: Unattended upgrades.

On Friday 24 March 2017 09:56:23 didier gaumet wrote: > Le 24/03/2017 à 09:41, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > [...] > > > Let's start with the file you mention: > > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades It isn't there. > > the Debian wiki indicates that it has to be created, either by typing a > content in a

Re: A bit OT: Amanda Restore

On Friday 24 March 2017 11:51:27 Mark Fletcher wrote: > Hello > > A while back I installed Amanda for backups. I have a pretty simple > setup at the moment which I may expand later. At the moment only one > machine, running Jessie, is backed up by Amanda. > > My main PC is both the Amanda server a

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

Hi Jonathan, On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 10:16:16AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 06:29:35AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > It can be useful to note the names of people who can't seem to > > prevent themselves from writing argumentative and massively > > off-topic responses ov

Re: repairing damage to package manager

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:53:59AM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > > I presume you are suggesting using wget to retrieve the missing > packages after identifying their URL's? > Yeah, or just download the package from packages.debian.org with a web browser, and then use dpkg -i on it. Check t

Re: repairing damage to package manager

Hi Jonathan, On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 03:40:52PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:30:31AM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > > dpkg-reconfigure doesn't help, nor dpkg -i apt-get. > > "apt-get" exists in the "apt" package, but "dpkg -i" takes an argument to > a local .deb a

A bit OT: Amanda Restore

Hello A while back I installed Amanda for backups. I have a pretty simple setup at the moment which I may expand later. At the moment only one machine, running Jessie, is backed up by Amanda. My main PC is both the Amanda server and the machine Amanda is backing up. Recently I started to think

Re: repairing damage to package manager

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:30:31AM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > dpkg-reconfigure doesn't help, nor dpkg -i apt-get. "apt-get" exists in the "apt" package, but "dpkg -i" takes an argument to a local .deb archive, not a package name. Try downloading a .deb of apt for your version of debian and a

Re: repairing damage to package manager

Correction below: On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:30:31AM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've been using Debian Stretch for a couple of months, and following > this list for a month or two. I'm afraid I did something stupid anyway, > and find myself with a damaged apt-get and can't fi

repairing damage to package manager

Hi folks, I've been using Debian Stretch for a couple of months, and following this list for a month or two. I'm afraid I did something stupid anyway, and find myself with a damaged apt-get and can't figure out how to fix it short of reinstalling. Here is what I did to damage it: The discussion

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 12:06:58 Joe wrote: > I've mentioned recently that I once did a non-expert netinstall, in the > days when I used static addresses and no DHCP, and was miffed to find I > had no network interfaces at the end of the process. Until fairly recently I have always had static IPs

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 12:06:58 Joe wrote: > the user > should be notified and asked whether to continue. The user *is* notified and asked whether to continue. The user is not *prevented* from continuing, should he or she be perverse enough to wish to do so. Lisi

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 12:07:59 Richard Owlett wrote: > It might be just the ticket for some > of my minimalist experiments. ;-) It would. The other minimalist install media have mostly gone by the board. I have just checked, and amazingly LNX-BBC (Linux Bootable Business Card) and DSL (Damn

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Thu 23 Mar 2017 at 22:23:42 -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 9:22 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > > Catherine, I'm curious - when was the last time you installed Debian > > using d-i? I've now seen you several times write (like above) about > > "backing out of the instal

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On 03/24/2017 07:07 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/23/2017 05:18 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote: [ *SNIP* ] A complete Debian dvd set does NOT solve the unrecognized network problem; only the unofficial iso downloads that include the non-free firmware do. The same issue was present the last time I

Re: Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1?

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 07:56 Reco wrote: > Hi. ... > Thanks very much, Reco! Best regards, -Tom

Re: Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1?

Hi. On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 12:40:07 + Tom Browder wrote: > I have the Dell laptop and I was able to load Deb 8 on it via a netinst, > but the Dell 1800 wireless drops contact with the internet often. Sometimes > a reboot will work but not every time. > > Three questions, please: > > 1

Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1?

I have the Dell laptop and I was able to load Deb 8 on it via a netinst, but the Dell 1800 wireless drops contact with the internet often. Sometimes a reboot will work but not every time. Three questions, please: 1. What specific model of USB wireless ethernet adaptor does anyone recommend that

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On 03/23/2017 05:18 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote: [ *SNIP* ] A complete Debian dvd set does NOT solve the unrecognized network problem; only the unofficial iso downloads that include the non-free firmware do. The same issue was present the last time I used a complete 12 dvd set, which was years ag

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 10:29:09 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 24 March 2017 10:20:46 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:07:22AM +0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: > > > I disagree. Sometimes there is no disagreement, someone is just > > > plain wrong. Catherine has been given

Re: What happened with Samba??

Hi, On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 09:21:58PM +0100, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 08:06:00PM +0100, Luis Speciale wrote: > > Le 23/03/2017 à 19:41, Gábor Hársfalvi a écrit : > > > Dear Community! > > > > > > I've installed succesfully samba-updates today on our Debian 8

Re: TTL expired in transit to qemu virtual machine.

On 23.03.2017 14:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: Run "uname -a" (and also "uptime") and post the results. You a right. I didn't do a restart after last kernel update. After a restart, TTL problem didn't occur anymore. Also I've noted that the particular vm had INPUT default policy to DROP and no ic

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 10:20:46 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:07:22AM +0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: > > I disagree. Sometimes there is no disagreement, someone is just plain > > wrong. Catherine has been given the use cases that disprove her thesis, > > and has been contrad

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 02:33:00PM -0400, songbird wrote: > Catherine Gramze wrote: > ... > > When you burn the netinst iso to a dvd, because you can't buy blank cds > > anymore in any local stores, you have a netinst dvd. I can't remember the > > last time I saw a cd in the wild. > > i just s

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:07:22AM +0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: > I disagree. Sometimes there is no disagreement, someone is just plain > wrong. Catherine has been given the use cases that disprove her thesis, > and has been contradicting herself. Catherine's *suggestion* has been shot down for

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 06:29:35AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > It can be useful to note the names of people who can't seem to > prevent themselves from writing argumentative and massively > off-topic responses over and over again. It's a relatively small but > vocal list. Yes... but, a) the whole

Re: Unattended upgrades.

Le 24/03/2017 à 09:41, Lisi Reisz a écrit : [...] > Let's start with the file you mention: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades > It isn't there. the Debian wiki indicates that it has to be created, either by typing a content in an editor or you can symply type as root: # dpkg-reconfigure -plow

Re: Unattended upgrades. Debian methods, please, not Ubuntu.

On Thursday 23 March 2017 04:26:17 Teemu Likonen wrote: > Lisi Reisz [2017-03-22 00:37:18Z] wrote: > > How do I get unattended upgrades a) to function and b) to tell me when > > it has upgraded something. > > Probably you need to add the following lines in the top of > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unatten

Re: Unattended upgrades.

Thank you for your further response. I have tried to answer your questions, which will show you that I am completely at sea. On Thursday 23 March 2017 09:03:01 didier gaumet wrote: > Le 23/03/2017 à 02:06, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > Thank you. Yes, I have read and tried to follow it. I quote: >

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On 24-03-17, Catherine Gramze wrote: > > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 9:20 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > > It's not really polite to call this "expert" (only in the sense > > described by the Advanced options in the installer) rabid, and what > > I do with the installer ridiculous. > > > > I don't wis