On Friday 24 March 2017 10:20:46 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:07:22AM +0100, Mart van de Wege wrote:
> > I disagree. Sometimes there is no disagreement, someone is just plain
> > wrong. Catherine has been given the use cases that disprove her thesis,
> > and has been contradicting herself.
>
> Catherine's *suggestion* has been shot down for causing problems for some
> use-cases; but the problem she wants to address still exists and is still
> in need of a solution. I see very little interest here in people actually
> addressing the problem (except Catherine); just a lot of "Get off my
> lawn"-style posts, and a propensity of people to misprepresent *their*
> opinion with that of the project as a whole.
>
> > if they insist on not wanting to be educated
>
> Interestingly that's exactly how I'd characterize most of the responses
> *to* Catherine; deaf ears to the problem, due to dissatisafaction with a
> proposed solution.
>
> > at a certain point you must simply wash
> > your hands of them. It's not nice, but it *is* constructive.
>
> "Washing your hands" is deleting the thread and moving on; it's not posting
> aggressive, toxic messages.

What we have *all* been losing sight of in this thread is that none of us can 
do anything about it anyway.  An installer proposal needs making to the 
installer developers.

Lisi

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