Hi,
Lisi Resiz wrote:
> > If you do use foreign words, you need to be willing to explain them when
> > asked, as you were by Chris.
But i did not understand that it was about english language
and not about computing. I was not aware that "resp." is wrong
in that context.
> > I'm still not clear
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 01:23:48PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> I'd go with the idea suggested on the stackexchange post he referenced,
> that, in other contexts, the English grammar puts the "beziehungswiese"
> after two lists which are being associated:
>
> ... translating breakfast, lunch, and
Hi, Lisi,
If I'm still in your blacklists, it won't help for me to comment, but ...
2015/07/28 6:46 "Lisi Reisz" :
>
> On Monday 27 July 2015 16:53:14 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
> > English is about as pure as a cribhouse whor
On 27/07/15 10:08 PM, Celejar wrote:
Hi,
I have a fairly new external USB disk that frequently throws errors.
When these occur, the disk becomes partially or totally inaccessible.
Even worse, when I try to umount it, the umount hangs indefinitely,
using 100% of one of my cpu cores. I haven't yet
Hi,
I have a fairly new external USB disk that frequently throws errors.
When these occur, the disk becomes partially or totally inaccessible.
Even worse, when I try to umount it, the umount hangs indefinitely,
using 100% of one of my cpu cores. I haven't yet found any way to
recover short of hard
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:46 AM, David Bruce
wrote:
> I've installed Debian dozens of times since 2002 and I have never run
> into anything approaching the headaches I am experiencing trying to
> get the current stable Debian onto a newly rebuilt machine. The box is
> a straightforward amd64
Whi
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 4:44 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>
> LG Germany answered quickly and stated that the drive is
> not known to show this behavior under MS-Windows.
> (Linux is not on their compatibility list, they say.)
Has the drive displayed this behavior since you turned on the machine,
o
Greetings all;
Is there an autoloading routine I know not about that chooses to see if
either the intel-microdoe is loaded and applied, or the amd64-microcode
is applied?
I cannot find a reference to the attempt to load it in the dmesg report
on this machine I am building.. Apt-get install say
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 06:48:48 -0400 (EDT), Joel Rees wrote:
>>
>> I also sometimes get applications I had closed coming back when I log back
>> in.
>>
>> XFCE sometimes gets its states wedged.
>>
>> There is a command I sometimes used to use
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 3:27 AM, John L. Ries wrote:
> I understand the desire to put "free software first" and segregate out
> packages that don't meet the standard, but if a free driver is not available
> for one's hardware, then I figure the least Debian could do is to offer to
> install a "non
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 06:48:48 -0400 (EDT), Joel Rees wrote:
>
> I also sometimes get applications I had closed coming back when I log back in.
>
> XFCE sometimes gets its states wedged.
>
> There is a command I sometimes used to use to reset the wedged state
> when the title/menubar disappeared.
On Monday 27 July 2015 19:30:20 Glenn English wrote:
> On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Michael Fothergill
wrote:
> > On 27 July 2015 at 18:27, Mark Allums wrote:
> > On 07/27/2015 08:46 AM, Hans wrote:
> > Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john vera:
> >
> > In one word, drivers.
> >
> >
On Monday 27 July 2015 16:53:14 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
> English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words;
> on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
> them unconscious a
Hi,
Nicolas George wrote:
> Do try strace, and if
> you know a bit of SMTP, which seems the case, you should be able to spot the
> problem in a few minutes.
It's nearly too late in the evening. But (with alpine 2.20 from
source):
read(9, "220 gmx.com (mrgmx102) Nemesis E"..., 8192) = 52
wri
Le nonidi 9 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Thomas Schmitt a écrit :
> > strace can tell you that and much more, especially if the encryption is done
> > by a separate program.
> Whatever, the ports and encryption are ok. It's alpine's
> way of speaking ESMTP and/or Nemesis' unfilfilled ESMTP
> expectations
Mart van de Wege wrote on 07/27/2015 12:49 AM:
Gary Dale writes:
On 26/07/15 02:44 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote:
Gary Dale writes:
Upgrading to sid is asking for trouble. Sid isn't called unstable for
nothing.
I know. I really do. I only have been running Debian since potato. On
the other
Hi,
David Wright a écrit :
> > It would be nice to know which port numbers alpine is trying to
> > use.
Nicolas George:
> strace can tell you that and much more, especially if the encryption is done
> by a separate program.
I do know the port number if stunnel is involved.
Whatever, the ports a
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote on 07/26/2015 03:40 PM:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:27:50 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
I want to be able to set the time if for some reason the clock is
completely incorrect (this occurred from time to time in the past).
Use your wristwatch.
Or better, your cellphone or G
On Mon, 2015-07-27 at 14:55 -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> > Guys, this is not tough. Just put "non-free" in your apt sources
> > file line(s), and you'll never see the difference. The firmware in
> > not unencumbered; it's $free, but not beer free. You can get it any
> > time you ask for it.
>
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> > Were I a user of mail.gmx.net, I would ask them.
>
> Futile. They'd want me to use the web interface with lots
> of advertising.
Oh dear. Well, could you attack the problem the other way round and
connect alpine to exim, say, on your own machine. U
On 7/27/2015 2:30 PM, Glenn English wrote:
On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Michael Fothergill
wrote:
On 27 July 2015 at 18:27, Mark Allums wrote:
On 07/27/2015 08:46 AM, Hans wrote:
Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john vera:
In one word, drivers.
Don't we mean: firmware. Non
Is there a time line for releasing a "Let's Encrypt" ( letsencrypt) package
for Debian? Will it be backported to Debian stable?
I did note discussion of that here:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774387
It is available at github:
https://github.com/letsencrypt/letsencrypt
The
On 2015-07-27, John L. Ries wrote:
>
> Ideals are good, but one still has to deal with reality.
>
You can find some reality here:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
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Le nonidi 9 thermidor, an CCXXIII, David Wright a écrit :
> OK. It would be nice to know which port numbers alpine is trying to
> use.
strace can tell you that and much more, especially if the encryption is done
by a separate program.
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Hi,
> OK. It would be nice to know which port numbers alpine is trying to
> use.
It did connect with explicitely setting port 587 for "/tls/".
But i bet that neither port nor encryption protocol is the
problem. If not alpine mimicks a SMTP error 503 then the
connection is good enough to transmit
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:30:20 -0600
Glenn English wrote:
> Guys, this is not tough. Just put "non-free" in your apt sources file
> line(s), and you'll never see the difference. The firmware in not
> unencumbered; it's $free, but not beer free. You can get it any time you ask
> for it.
We are t
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:57:45 + (UTC)
Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > Is there a way to make udev "forget" the names it has assigned ?
>
> Yes. Just delete the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net and
> reboot.
And while on this subject, can udev be made to "forget" all the hot-pluggable
driv
On Monday 27 July 2015 11:56:19 Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On 2015-07-27, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Monday 27 July 2015 14:58:58 Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> Greetings all;
> >>
> >> I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V
> >> motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used fo
On Monday 27 July 2015 11:33:11 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 09:58:58AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V
> > motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc
> > machine control, an
On Monday 27 July 2015 10:48:21 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 27 July 2015 14:58:58 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V
> > motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc
> > machine control, and while I final
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> David Wright wrote:
>
> > > I can direct alpine unencrypted to port 30029 and see the same
> > > effect as with alpine's own encryption via "/ssl/" or "/tls/".
>
> > I'm sorry if I appear to be thick but I get very little sense from
> > "see the same
I understand the desire to put "free software first" and segregate out
packages that don't meet the standard, but if a free driver is not
available for one's hardware, then I figure the least Debian could do is
to offer to install a "non-free" one (purists should be free to change
the config to
On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Michael Fothergill
wrote:
>
>
> On 27 July 2015 at 18:27, Mark Allums wrote:
> On 07/27/2015 08:46 AM, Hans wrote:
> Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john vera:
>
> In one word, drivers.
>
>
>
> Don't we mean: firmware. Nonfree firmware was remove
On 27 July 2015 at 18:27, Mark Allums wrote:
> On 07/27/2015 08:46 AM, Hans wrote:
>
>> Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john vera:
>>
>> In one word, drivers.
>
> Don't we mean: firmware. Nonfree firmware was removed from Debian main
> for some silly reason. A lot of hardw
Hi,
Bob Bernstein wrote:
> I suggest you join the alpine discussion list.
> https://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info
Will ask there after i managed to get version 2.20 running
from source tarball. (Or after i encountered a showstopper.)
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
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Hi,
David Wright wrote:
> > I can direct alpine unencrypted to port 30029 and see the same
> > effect as with alpine's own encryption via "/ssl/" or "/tls/".
> I'm sorry if I appear to be thick but I get very little sense from
> "see the same effect as with alpine's own encryption". I can't be
>
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Gene Heskett wrote:
> I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard,
> with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine
> control, and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was
> amazed to find that udev would create an eth0
On Mon 27 Jul 2015 at 14:17:52 +0200, Tuxo Holic wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 20:28:21 +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> > Your problem (please correct me if I have not understood what you said)
> > is that applications, Iceweasel, Evince etc, still see HP_LaserJet_1020
> > after the server is closed dow
On 2015-07-27, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:48:21 +0100
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
>> > I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard,
>> > with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control,
>> > and while I finally did get networking up a
27.07.2015, 17:39 CEST Hugo Vanwoerkom:
> Where do I find the latest Wheezy installer now that Jessie has gone stable?
> Thanks.
If you're looking for install media, here:
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/
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On 2015-07-27, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 27 July 2015 14:58:58 Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Greetings all;
>>
>> I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard,
>> with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control,
>> and while I finally did get networking
Quoting Renaud OLGIATI (ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org):
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:48:21 +0100
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
> > > I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard,
> > > with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control,
> > > and while I finally
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:39:35AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Where do I find the latest Wheezy installer now that Jessie has gone stable?
https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/debian-installer/ but read the
warnings on that page before use.
> Thanks.
>
> Hugo
>
>
> --
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Hi,
i wrote:
> > > > btrace(8) (resp. blktrace(8)) seems to be the better
Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > Excuse my ignorance, but I was wondering what 'resp.' means here.
> > [i missed the point]
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> But what does "resp." mean?
I guess there is something wrong with my use of "re
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 09:58:58AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
>
> I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard,
> with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control,
> and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was amaze
Hi,
Where do I find the latest Wheezy installer now that Jessie has gone stable?
Thanks.
Hugo
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:48:21 +0100
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard,
> > with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control,
> > and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was amazed to
> > find that udev
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> Hi,
>
> i wrote:
> > > I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line
> > > in ~/.pinerc:
> > > smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net
>
> David Wright wrote:
> > I assume that you're telling me that this does not work, ri
On Monday 27 July 2015 14:58:58 Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
>
> I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard,
> with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control,
> and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was amazed to
> find t
On Monday 27 July 2015 15:17:50 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i wrote:
> > > btrace(8) (resp. blktrace(8)) seems to be the better
>
> Chris Bannister wrote:
> > Excuse my ignorance, but I was wondering what 'resp.' means here.
>
> btrace lets blktrace do the work and blkparse tell the user.
>
> m
Hi,
i wrote:
> > btrace(8) (resp. blktrace(8)) seems to be the better
Chris Bannister wrote:
> Excuse my ignorance, but I was wondering what 'resp.' means here.
btrace lets blktrace do the work and blkparse tell the user.
man 8 btrace:
"The btrace script provides a quick and easy way to do liv
Greetings all;
I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard,
with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control,
and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was amazed to
find that udev would create an eth0 on finding an 8139too on the
Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john vera:
> > In one word, drivers.
> >
Hi there,
some hardware is not recognized by the insdtallation kernel. I suggest, to
install a minimal systerm from the DVD, then download and install the newest
linux-image-* with another computer and install
this is a easy problem between the keyboard and chair xD
2015-07-27 7:19 GMT-04:30 Lisi Reisz :
> On Monday 27 July 2015 03:46:31 David Bruce wrote:
> > I would still welcome any suggestions or insights as to why the 6.03
> > installer works with my home router, but 8.1 does not.
>
> In one word,
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 20:28:21 +0100, Brian wrote:
> Your problem (please correct me if I have not understood what you said)
> is that applications, Iceweasel, Evince etc, still see HP_LaserJet_1020
> after the server is closed down.
No, I meant: the server usually stays on until I go to bed,
On Monday 27 July 2015 03:46:31 David Bruce wrote:
> I would still welcome any suggestions or insights as to why the 6.03
> installer works with my home router, but 8.1 does not.
In one word, drivers.
Also, have you checksum checked the net install with firmware disk?
Another suggestion, install
I suggest you join the alpine discussion list. The
current developer pretty much "lives" there, and there
is a nice group of subscribers. They talk about this
kind of question all the time.
https://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info
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Hello,
My laptop network setup works like the following:
I have a build in wlan- (wlan0) and ethernetcard (eth0), and just want
to use wlan0 managed by NetworkManger, so I have stated a minimal eth0
config in /etc/network/interfaces
# cat /etc/net
Sorry about firing the blank there.
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:53 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
> [...]
>
> Thanks to all who participated in this thread. If anyone has
> a clue how to fix this without purging the package, I'll try
> reinstalling it.
I also sometimes get applications I had closed co
On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 21:46:31 -0500, David Bruce wrote:
> I've installed Debian dozens of times since 2002 and I have never run
> into anything approaching the headaches I am experiencing trying to
> get the current stable Debian onto a newly rebuilt machine. The box is
> a straightforward amd64
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 04:00:06PM +0200, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
>Dear Users!
>I've installed Pulseaudio in Jessie x64 and I'd like to use my PC internal
>chassis speaker.
Is this a full-range speaker connected (internally) to a sound card, or
is this the little piezo-electric beeper a
Hi,
Alan Greenberger wrote:
> You might try
> lsof -r 1 /dev/sr0
> If you are lucky it will catch something. If I type eject a few times,
> it will catch one.
btrace(8) (resp. blktrace(8)) seems to be the better
inspector in this case. It shows i/o traffic down to
SCSI commands and there is no r
David Bruce:
>
> I've installed Debian dozens of times since 2002 and I have never run
> into anything approaching the headaches I am experiencing trying to
> get the current stable Debian onto a newly rebuilt machine. The box is
> a straightforward amd64 setup built from a bundle from Newegg. It h
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