Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

2015-06-27 Thread Jayson Willson
No, I have understood everything, what was being discussed in this thread. My comment about sensible-* command itself was just a comment, which meant "these programs are however not to convenient to use". Sorry.

Re: network-manager in Jessie upgrade issues

2015-06-27 Thread Sam Smith
On 06/27/2015 04:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 27 June 2015 22:42:11 Sam Smith wrote: I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie today on my laptop. I cannot get wifi to work now. I have been using network-manager with KDE for years now. I tried removing everything network-manager related through a

Re: network-manager in Jessie upgrade issues

2015-06-27 Thread Sam Smith
Indeed :) --Sam 'the' smith On 06/27/2015 09:34 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Wait...*the* Sam smith? ahem! Sorry, could not resist. Kare On Sat, 27 Jun 2015, Sam Smith wrote: On 06/27/2015 04:42 PM, Sam Smith wrote: I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie today on my laptop. I cannot get wifi to

Re: network-manager in Jessie upgrade issues

2015-06-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
Wait...*the* Sam smith? ahem! Sorry, could not resist. Kare On Sat, 27 Jun 2015, Sam Smith wrote: On 06/27/2015 04:42 PM, Sam Smith wrote: I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie today on my laptop. I cannot get wifi to work now. I have been using network-manager with KDE for years now. I tried

Re: New with ADSL: please help with wired connection

2015-06-27 Thread David Christensen
On 06/27/2015 08:17 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Yesterday I received a Modem-Router for my brand new ADSL connection, We need more information to help you. What distribution of Debian are you running? What is the make and model of the Modem-Router? Who is your ADSL provider? Do they provi

Re: Fwd: Unable to locate Bug's package

2015-06-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 06/27/2015 at 08:35 PM, Nile Aagard wrote: > To whom it may concern, > > At present, I'm experiencing a nasty bug somewhere in my desktop > environment. I recently upgraded to Debian 8 which has given me a > myriad of problems, the latest of which being an intermittent issue > where all new w

Re: CUPS is just killing me

2015-06-27 Thread briand
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 22:16:54 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 14:03:00 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > > People upgrading from a *working* Wheezy cups have generally not noticed > any change in their printing experience. > > the upgrade went very well as has always been my exper

Fwd: Unable to locate Bug's package

2015-06-27 Thread Nile Aagard
To whom it may concern, At present, I'm experiencing a nasty bug somewhere in my desktop environment. I recently upgraded to Debian 8 which has given me a myriad of problems, the latest of which being an intermittent issue where all new windows and menus are rendered as a black box on the screen.

Re: network-manager in Jessie upgrade issues

2015-06-27 Thread Sam Smith
On 06/27/2015 04:42 PM, Sam Smith wrote: I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie today on my laptop. I cannot get wifi to work now. I have been using network-manager with KDE for years now. I tried removing everything network-manager related through apt and starting over but that didn't work. I have net

Re: CUPS is just killing me

2015-06-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 27 June 2015 21:17:45 bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > well, i tried to purge the avahi thingy and accidentally purged cups > > i reinstalled cups AND i had saved a copy of the /etc/cups directory such > in the event of such an occassion. > > so i re-copied the entire directory. > > and the

Re: network-manager in Jessie upgrade issues

2015-06-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 27 June 2015 22:42:11 Sam Smith wrote: > I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie today on my laptop. I cannot get wifi > to work now. I have been using network-manager with KDE for years now. I > tried removing everything network-manager related through apt and > starting over but that didn't

Re: CUPS is just killing me

2015-06-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 27 June 2015 21:17:45 bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > well, i tried to purge the avahi thingy and accidentally purged cups Don't you read what apt/aptitude is intending to remove before agreeing??? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

network-manager in Jessie upgrade issues

2015-06-27 Thread Sam Smith
I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie today on my laptop. I cannot get wifi to work now. I have been using network-manager with KDE for years now. I tried removing everything network-manager related through apt and starting over but that didn't work. I have network-manager and plasma-widget-networkm

Re: CUPS is just killing me

2015-06-27 Thread Brian
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 14:03:00 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:40:58 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 13:17:45 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > > > > > well, i tried to purge the avahi thingy and accidentally purged cups > > > > I've not had my mind

Re: Connecting laptop to internet via cell network

2015-06-27 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:06:26PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:55:07 -0500 > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 09:06 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >> I'm looking for a USB modem for cell network (preferred) or a > > >> WiFi hot spot (m

Re: CUPS is just killing me

2015-06-27 Thread briand
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:40:58 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 13:17:45 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > > > well, i tried to purge the avahi thingy and accidentally purged cups > > I've not had my mind boggled in a long time but it is boggling now; in > spades. avahi-daemon is only

Re: CUPS is just killing me

2015-06-27 Thread Brian
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 13:17:45 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > well, i tried to purge the avahi thingy and accidentally purged cups I've not had my mind boggled in a long time but it is boggling now; in spades. avahi-daemon is only a recommendation. It is impossible to purge cups by its remova

Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

2015-06-27 Thread Brian
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 21:48:32 +0300, Jayson Willson wrote: > sensible-editor (browser, pager) is too long and not convenient to > auto-complete. Pity This mail appears to relate to https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/06/msg01553.html Its writer appears to lack the comprehension to unde

CUPS is just killing me

2015-06-27 Thread briand
well, i tried to purge the avahi thingy and accidentally purged cups i reinstalled cups AND i had saved a copy of the /etc/cups directory such in the event of such an occassion. so i re-copied the entire directory. and the printer didn't work. furthermore cups is not acting the same. so in des

Re: aptitude full-upgrade bug?

2015-06-27 Thread Brian
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 14:05:17 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > On 27/06/15 01:12 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >On Saturday 27 June 2015 17:38:36 Gary Dale wrote: > >>I've upgraded two machines from wheezy to jessie over the last month or > >>so and noticed the same behaviour on both. In both cases they faile

Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

2015-06-27 Thread Jayson Willson
sensible-editor (browser, pager) is too long and not convenient to auto-complete. Pity

Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot

2015-06-27 Thread Christian Seiler
On 06/27/2015 08:02 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote: > Am 27.06.2015 um 16:07 schrieb Christian Seiler: >> Could you try to do the following: >> >> 1. create a directory /etc/systemd/system/remote-fs-pre.target.d >> 2. create a file /etc/systemd/system/remote-fs-pre.target.d/nfs.conf >>with the followin

Re: aptitude full-upgrade bug?

2015-06-27 Thread Gary Dale
On 27/06/15 01:12 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 27 June 2015 17:38:36 Gary Dale wrote: I've upgraded two machines from wheezy to jessie over the last month or so and noticed the same behaviour on both. In both cases they failed to upgrade the kernel. In both cases this left the machines unab

Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot

2015-06-27 Thread Jonas Meurer
Hi Christian, Am 27.06.2015 um 16:07 schrieb Christian Seiler: > (Ccing the bugtracker because it appears you've stumbled upon a bug > that also a few other people had, see below. Please don't reply to the > bugtracker yourself unless you feel it's relevant for the bug report.) > > Link to thread

Re: What's the difference between sensible-utils and native debian Alternatives?

2015-06-27 Thread Brian
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 16:49:15 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Sat, 2015-06-27 at 16:58 +0300, Jayson Willson wrote: > > Hello. Could you please tell me, what is the difference between, for > > example, /usr/bin/editor (which will be a symling to an editor > > chosen with update-alternatives --c

RE: aptitude full-upgrade bug?

2015-06-27 Thread Arno Schuring
> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 12:38:36 -0400 > From: garyd...@torfree.net > > I've upgraded two machines [..] they failed to > upgrade the kernel. [..] > > I suspect this could be because the meta-package linux-image-amd64 > wasn't installed, but even that doesn't make a lot of sense. Shouldn't > a fu

aptitude full-upgrade bug?

2015-06-27 Thread Gary Dale
I've upgraded two machines from wheezy to jessie over the last month or so and noticed the same behaviour on both. In both cases they failed to upgrade the kernel. In both cases this left the machines unable to complete a boot and I had to use the systemV init option to get to a command line.

New with ADSL: please help with wired connection

2015-06-27 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Hi all. Yesterday I received a Modem-Router for my brand new ADSL connection, which I've never used before (first old analogic modem, then usb stick with sim card in it), and it works fine in wifi mode but from Gnome Network Manager it seems I can't succesfully make work in `Wired' mode: in fact,

Re: What's the difference between sensible-utils and native debian Alternatives?

2015-06-27 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-06-27 at 16:58 +0300, Jayson Willson wrote: > Hello. Could you please tell me, what is the difference between, for > example, /usr/bin/editor (which will be a symling to an editor chosen > with > update-alternatives --config editor) and /usr/bin/sensible-editor? > What > about pager

Re: 8.1 installation problems

2015-06-27 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-06-27 at 09:40 -0400, Bob McKittrick wrote: > Hi, > I have an ASUS H61M MB w/ 803 BIOS. Ubuntu works fine, Debian 7.8 > worked > fine but when I installed 8.1 the BIOS disables the drive (on boot) > w/ > 4.xxx or 5.xxx depending on the number of partitions. I switched > which > driv

Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot

2015-06-27 Thread Christian Seiler
(Ccing the bugtracker because it appears you've stumbled upon a bug that also a few other people had, see below. Please don't reply to the bugtracker yourself unless you feel it's relevant for the bug report.) Link to thread on debian-user for people reading the bug report: https://lists.debian.or

What's the difference between sensible-utils and native debian Alternatives?

2015-06-27 Thread Jayson Willson
Hello. Could you please tell me, what is the difference between, for example, /usr/bin/editor (which will be a symling to an editor chosen with update-alternatives --config editor) and /usr/bin/sensible-editor? What about pager and sensible-pager? I do not get the practical difference. Thank you.

8.1 installation problems

2015-06-27 Thread Bob McKittrick
Hi, I have an ASUS H61M MB w/ 803 BIOS. Ubuntu works fine, Debian 7.8 worked fine but when I installed 8.1 the BIOS disables the drive (on boot) w/ 4.xxx or 5.xxx depending on the number of partitions. I switched which drives debian and ubuntu were on and the disabling moved to the drive debian was

Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot

2015-06-27 Thread Christian Seiler
On 06/27/2015 03:12 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote: > So I'm pretty sure that NFS is setup correctly both on server and > client. My problem is about mounting the NFS share automatically during > the boot process. Looks like it, yes. >> However, since you need the interface at boot anyway, you don't

Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot

2015-06-27 Thread Jonas Meurer
Hi Christian, thanks for the comprehensive reply. It helps a lot to better understand the details of systemd NFS mount handling. Am 27.06.2015 um 12:55 schrieb Christian Seiler: > On 06/26/2015 07:44 PM, Arno Schuring wrote: >>> On 2015-06-26 18:38 +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: >>> mount.nfs4 prints

Re: CUPS error message, device already exists

2015-06-27 Thread Martin Read
On 27/06/15 06:16, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: My complaint is that CUPS is complaining. if it doesn't matter - then why is it complaining ? Some programs complain about things that *might* matter where if they do matter then the humans they matter to will be very upset to not be notified.

Re: Boots into emergency mode. How to analyze?

2015-06-27 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 08:42:17PM -0700, Seeker wrote: > > > On 6/26/2015 6:12 AM, Matthijs Wensveen wrote: > > > > > >On 06/26/2015 01:55 PM, Nick T. wrote: > >>On 06/26/2015 12:55 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > >I'm now back to having a roo

Re: CUPS error message, device already exists

2015-06-27 Thread Brian
On Fri 26 Jun 2015 at 22:22:25 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > meanwhile i'm getting this too: > > Failed to update TXT record for DCP8110DN @ server: -2 > > I think i figured that one out. > > it can't get a hostname for the printer perhaps ? Sort of. Avahi is trying to get a TXT record f

Re: Flash update

2015-06-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 27 June 2015 11:06:07 Brian wrote: > On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 09:45:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 27 June 2015 08:58:44 Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 02:54:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Friday 26 June 2015 13:34:00 Brian wrote: > > > > > [Beware! Rampant s

Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot

2015-06-27 Thread Christian Seiler
On 06/26/2015 07:44 PM, Arno Schuring wrote: >> From: svenj...@gmx.de >> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 19:28:37 +0200 >> On 2015-06-26 18:38 +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: Process: 352 ExecMount=/bin/mount -n nfs-server:/vmail /var/vmail -t nfs4 -o sec=krb5i,_netdev (code=exited, status=32) >>>

Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot

2015-06-27 Thread Jonas Meurer
Hi Brian, Am 27.06.2015 um 07:29 schrieb bri...@aracnet.com: > On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 19:28:37 +0200 > Sven Joachim wrote: > > >> Maybe rpcbind was started too late, see bug #763315[1] on that topic. >> What is the output of "systemctl status rpcbind.service"? > > i have a similar warning/error.

Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot

2015-06-27 Thread Jonas Meurer
Hi Sven, Am 26.06.2015 um 19:28 schrieb Sven Joachim: > On 2015-06-26 18:38 +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: >>> # grep nfs /etc/fstab >>> nfs-server:/vmail /var/vmail nfs4 _netdev,sec=krb5i,bg 0 0 >> >> results in unmounted NFS shares after reboot and: >> >>> >>> Jun 26 16:29:02 clt mount[352]: mount.n

Re: Flash update

2015-06-27 Thread Brian
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 09:45:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 27 June 2015 08:58:44 Brian wrote: > > On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 02:54:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 26 June 2015 13:34:00 Brian wrote: > > > > [Beware! Rampant snipping in progress] > > > > > > > > On Fri 26 Jun 2015

Re: CUPS error message, device already exists

2015-06-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/27/2015 01:16 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:46:48 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: On 26/06/15 01:37 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: I'm not sure if this is meaningful, but it would be nice to fix it. failed to CreateDevice: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExis

Re: Connecting laptop to internet via cell network

2015-06-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/26/2015 06:52 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 26 June 2015 22:54:37 Brian wrote: On Fri 26 Jun 2015 at 22:06:26 +0100, Joe wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:55:07 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 09:06 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a

Re: Flash update

2015-06-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 27 June 2015 08:58:44 Brian wrote: > On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 02:54:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 26 June 2015 13:34:00 Brian wrote: > > > [Beware! Rampant snipping in progress] > > > > > > On Fri 26 Jun 2015 at 09:38:53 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > How do you live stream B

Re: Flash update

2015-06-27 Thread Brian
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 02:54:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 26 June 2015 13:34:00 Brian wrote: > > [Beware! Rampant snipping in progress] > > > > On Fri 26 Jun 2015 at 09:38:53 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > How do you live stream BBC iPlayer on a computer without the use of > > > Flash? >