On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 09:45:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 27 June 2015 08:58:44 Brian wrote: > > On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 02:54:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 26 June 2015 13:34:00 Brian wrote: > > > > [Beware! Rampant snipping in progress] > > > > > > > > On Fri 26 Jun 2015 at 09:38:53 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > How do you live stream BBC iPlayer on a computer without the use of > > > > > Flash? > > > > > > > > A well formulated question. :) > > > > > > > > Think in these terms: > > > > > > > > 1. Using iplayer with flash involves downloading a file. > > > > > > > > 2. Wouldn't it be nice if the file could be downloaded, preferably > > > > using a program which is in a package in the Debian archives? > > > > > > > > 3. Such a package has been mentioned in this thread. It is extensively > > > > documented at the program's home page and in its manual. > > > > > > > > 4. The file being downloaded is a .flv. While it is being downloaded it > > > > is being stored on disk so it can be accessed and viewed. vlc is one > > > > player which can view .flv files. > > > > > > That's not live streaming. So it isn't how to "live stream BBC iPlayer > > > on a computer without the use of Flash". It is of course, a way of > > > playing BBC iPlayer. But I am quite happy to use Flash. I'd rather use > > > Open Source, but I also want both to live stream and to keep my nose. > > > > Eh? You'd have to explain. The stream is being displayed by vlc while it > > is being downloaded. It doesn't get more "live" than that. > > Then you have gone beyond my present technical knowledge so I'll have a good > look at it after I have cracked 4OD. I thought that one had to download > first.
You appear to be thinking in terms of "downloading" being the completed, stored product (I downloaded a .deb file) rather than a process. > It ws you who had failed to explain. Hints and then let the child solve the > problem for himself are certainly the best way to teach. But only if the > child knows what to try and do. The principle was brilliantly explained. How you apply it is up to you. To illustrate it I would do: 1. Open a terminal and issue the command wget http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2014/mini-debconf-barcelona/The_Earth_is_not_flat_and_other_heresies_by_Allison_Randal.webm 2. In a second terminal vlc ~/The_Earth_is_not_flat_and_other_heresies_by_Allison_Randal.webm > So OK, you win! But the other people I know who use get-iplayer regularly > have been having problems recently which I understood were the BBC > deliberately moving the goal post to stop them. Are you not or is that not > so? I hadn't realised this was a game of winners and losers. But in fact you win because you are now in possession of some knowledge you didn't have before. I have the same problems others have when things change. Usually I can relocate the goalposts with a bit of effort. > Ah! I am very out of date! > http://linuxcentre.net/getiplayer > > But here is where I was at (I had in fact read this earlier): > http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source > > it sounds great and worth an effort. So, thank you. But I'll get 4OD going > one way or another first. http://linuxcentre.net/ is no longer the development or distribution centre for get_iplayer. I'd suggest abandoning pipelight and going with the Linux version of flash plus the hal packages would be a route to success. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/27062015103045.3a4c131fd...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk