On Saturday 27 June 2015 11:06:07 Brian wrote: > On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 09:45:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 27 June 2015 08:58:44 Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 02:54:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Friday 26 June 2015 13:34:00 Brian wrote: > > > > > [Beware! Rampant snipping in progress] > > > > > > > > > > On Fri 26 Jun 2015 at 09:38:53 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > > How do you live stream BBC iPlayer on a computer without the use > > > > > > of Flash? > > > > > > > > > > A well formulated question. :) > > > > > > > > > > Think in these terms: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Using iplayer with flash involves downloading a file. > > > > > > > > > > 2. Wouldn't it be nice if the file could be downloaded, preferably > > > > > using a program which is in a package in the Debian archives? > > > > > > > > > > 3. Such a package has been mentioned in this thread. It is > > > > > extensively documented at the program's home page and in its > > > > > manual. > > > > > > > > > > 4. The file being downloaded is a .flv. While it is being > > > > > downloaded it is being stored on disk so it can be accessed and > > > > > viewed. vlc is one player which can view .flv files. > > > > > > > > That's not live streaming. So it isn't how to "live stream BBC > > > > iPlayer on a computer without the use of Flash". It is of course, a > > > > way of playing BBC iPlayer. But I am quite happy to use Flash. I'd > > > > rather use Open Source, but I also want both to live stream and to > > > > keep my nose. > > > > > > Eh? You'd have to explain. The stream is being displayed by vlc while > > > it is being downloaded. It doesn't get more "live" than that. > > > > Then you have gone beyond my present technical knowledge so I'll have a > > good look at it after I have cracked 4OD. I thought that one had to > > download first. > > You appear to be thinking in terms of "downloading" being the completed, > stored product (I downloaded a .deb file) rather than a process.
In this context that is exactly what I - clearly erroneously - thought. > > > It ws you who had failed to explain. Hints and then let the child solve > > the problem for himself are certainly the best way to teach. But only if > > the child knows what to try and do. > > The principle was brilliantly explained. How you apply it is up to you. > > To illustrate it I would do: > > 1. Open a terminal and issue the command > > wget > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2014/mini-debconf-ba >rcelona/The_Earth_is_not_flat_and_other_heresies_by_Allison_Randal.webm > > 2. In a second terminal > > vlc ~/The_Earth_is_not_flat_and_other_heresies_by_Allison_Randal.webm > > > So OK, you win! But the other people I know who use get-iplayer > > regularly have been having problems recently which I understood were the > > BBC deliberately moving the goal post to stop them. Are you not or is > > that not so? > > I hadn't realised this was a game of winners and losers. But in fact you > win because you are now in possession of some knowledge you didn't have > before. Agreed. Thank you. > I have the same problems others have when things change. Usually I can > relocate the goalposts with a bit of effort. > > > Ah! I am very out of date! > > http://linuxcentre.net/getiplayer > > > > But here is where I was at (I had in fact read this earlier): > > http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-su > >pport-for-open-source > > > > it sounds great and worth an effort. So, thank you. But I'll get 4OD > > going one way or another first. > > http://linuxcentre.net/ is no longer the development or distribution > centre for get_iplayer. I'll shelve trying to improve my Google-foo until I have solved Channel 4. > I'd suggest abandoning pipelight and going with the Linux version of > flash plus the hal packages would be a route to success. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try it. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506271157.12423.lisi.re...@gmail.com
