Re: virtmanager not connecting to server

2014-11-22 Thread Reco
> On 22/11/14 06:06 PM, Reco wrote: > Changes the error: > > Unable to connect to libvirt. > > Cannot recv data: Host key verification failed.: Connection reset by peer > > Verify that the 'libvirtd' daemon is running on the remote host. > > > Details: > > ibvirt URI is: qemu+ssh://garydale@T

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-22 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 11/22/2014 04:09 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote: My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy. My wife has an iPad Mini and it would be nice to be able to maintain that from the li

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:29:20PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I have a laptop (an old Asus EEEPC), and I need to replace its only disk > drive with a larger one. The hardware aspects are easy -- keep static > electricity away and use a screwdriver. I have the new drive on my desk > already.

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Gary Dale
On 22/11/14 11:04 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:45:38 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Gary Dale a écrit : On 22/11/14 06:29 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: And it's not hard to copy the file systems, either. I can temporarily access the new drive using a USB adaptor. fdisk and the lv

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:45:38 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Gary Dale a écrit : >> On 22/11/14 06:29 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: >>> >>> And it's not hard to copy the file systems, either. I can temporarily >>> access the new drive using a USB adaptor. fdisk and the lvm utilities >>> will create th

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 19:04:52 -0500, Doug wrote: ... > > > You may find that Windows won't boot. There are a number of ways to fix > that. If you have a "real" install disk, I think that will work. Or > Google for "Windows won't boot after copy," or something like that. > There are a couple of fre

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 22 nov 14, 22:49:48, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > At the moment I have removed systemd from my jessie system. It is, > despite the absence of systemd, a Debian Jessie system. Sure. > In fact, refracta, one of the so-called forks that avoids systemd, > actuallu uses Debian's own Jessie pac

Re: Asterisk security

2014-11-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014, Rob van der Putten wrote: > A lot of bugs [1] but no Debian updates. Should I be concerned? See: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/asterisk > [1] For instance; > http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/security/AST-2014-012.html AFAICT, this whole fleet

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-22 Thread John Hasler
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI writes: > But they are anathema to the "We are systemd of Borg, resistance is > futile" crowd. And then there is the "Systemd is the Borg! Kill! Kill!" crowd who jump into every mention of Systemd to piss and moan about the other crowd, which then retaliates. While I can and

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote: > My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be > able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy. My wife has an > iPad Mini and it would be nice to be able to maintain that from the > linux box, as well. I have googled. I hav

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Doug
On 11/22/2014 06:34 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:29:20 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: I have a laptop (an old Asus EEEPC), and I need to replace its only disk drive with a larger one. The hardware aspects are easy -- keep static electricity away and use a screwdriver. I have the

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Gary Dale a écrit : > On 22/11/14 06:29 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> >> And it's not hard to copy the file systems, either. I can temporarily >> access the new drive using a USB adaptor. fdisk and the lvm utilities >> will create the new partitions and then I copy, using dd or rsync or tar/ [...]

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 08:47, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:43:01 +1100 Scott Ferguson > wrote: > >> On 22/11/14 22:14, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >>> On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:46:19 +1100 Scott Ferguson >>> wrote: >>> It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what they don't

Re: moving from 3.16-3-486 to 686

2014-11-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Harry Putnam a écrit : > > My question is whether continuing to use the 486 versions of kernels > has any down sides? The -486 kernel lacks support for multiprocessing/hyperthreading and PAE (which is required for NX/XD bit). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org wi

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 03:03, Buntunub wrote: > I understand your reasons for thinking Systemd is bad for Debian. I do, and I > also agree with some of them. However, Debian is composed of a diverse group > of people who have every viewpoint under the sun from Systemd is the bane of > Linux, to Systemd is the

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-22 Thread Ron
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:49:48 + (UTC) Hendrik Boom wrote: > But it is absurd to say that discussing these real problems faced by > Debian users, and their potential remedies, is off topic in the debian- > user mailing list. Of course they are not. But they are anathema to the "We are system

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:29:20 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I have a laptop (an old Asus EEEPC), and I need to replace its only disk > drive with a larger one. The hardware aspects are easy -- keep static > electricity away and use a screwdriver. I have the new drive on my desk > already. > > And

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Gary Dale
On 22/11/14 06:29 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I have a laptop (an old Asus EEEPC), and I need to replace its only disk drive with a larger one. The hardware aspects are easy -- keep static electricity away and use a screwdriver. I have the new drive on my desk already. And it's not hard to copy th

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
In an effort to keep a ration discussion from sliding into a pointless flame-war. On 23/11/14 02:07, Martin Read wrote: > On 22/11/14 09:50, lee wrote: >> Nobody understands udev rules, > > Challenge accepted. > > *looks at /etc/udev/rules.d* *looks at /lib/udev/rules.d* > > I'm honestly baffle

Re: moving from 3.16-3-486 to 686

2014-11-22 Thread Gary Dale
On 22/11/14 06:18 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Months ago, installing jessie as guest on win7-64, I somehow ended up with a 486 kernel. In other previous installs it was a 686 kernel... not sure what I did. But no doubt I selected it without realizing or the like. My question is whether continuing

replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
I have a laptop (an old Asus EEEPC), and I need to replace its only disk drive with a larger one. The hardware aspects are easy -- keep static electricity away and use a screwdriver. I have the new drive on my desk already. And it's not hard to copy the file systems, either. I can temporaril

Re: virtmanager not connecting to server

2014-11-22 Thread Gary Dale
On 22/11/14 06:06 PM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:41:38 -0500 Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Jessie/AMD64 connecting to Wheezy/ADM64. The KVM virtual machines are on the Wheezy machine, which is a also file & print server (CUPS, Samba & NFS). I'm getting an error "Unable to connec

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 02:10, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 10 nov 14, 18:20:37, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 11/10/2014 6:18 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: >>> Am 11.11.2014 um 00:14 schrieb Miles Fidelman: >>> Ok, then explain to me the procedure for running the installer in such a way that systemd is never

moving from 3.16-3-486 to 686

2014-11-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Months ago, installing jessie as guest on win7-64, I somehow ended up with a 486 kernel. In other previous installs it was a 686 kernel... not sure what I did. But no doubt I selected it without realizing or the like. My question is whether continuing to use the 486 versions of kernels has any d

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joel Rees wrote: 2014/11/23 2:57 "Lisi Reisz" >: > > On Saturday 22 November 2014 16:03:54 Buntunub wrote: > > I > > certainly have no qualms about including Systemd in the next stable > > release, and I actually encourage it, so that people will have time to play

Re: virtmanager not connecting to server

2014-11-22 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:41:38 -0500 Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running Jessie/AMD64 connecting to Wheezy/ADM64. The KVM virtual > machines are on the Wheezy machine, which is a also file & print server > (CUPS, Samba & NFS). > > I'm getting an error "Unable to connect to libvirt. You need to

systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:54:56 +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > On 05/11/2014 17:02, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: >> Miles, >> >> Le mercredi, 5 novembre 2014, 09.32:57 Miles Fidelman a écrit : >>> [If you're happy with systemd, and not considering a change - please >>> stay out of this discussion. If

How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-22 Thread Marc Shapiro
My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy. My wife has an iPad Mini and it would be nice to be able to maintain that from the linux box, as well. I have googled. I have upgraded to the latest kernel from Backpo

virtmanager not connecting to server

2014-11-22 Thread Gary Dale
I'm running Jessie/AMD64 connecting to Wheezy/ADM64. The KVM virtual machines are on the Wheezy machine, which is a also file & print server (CUPS, Samba & NFS). I'm getting an error "Unable to connect to libvirt. You need to install openssh-askpass or similar to connect to this host." The d

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:43:01 +1100 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 22/11/14 22:14, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:46:19 +1100 > > Scott Ferguson wrote: > > > >> It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what they don't want. > >> The winner was "developers will work it o

Re: ntpd confusion

2014-11-22 Thread Erwan David
Le 22/11/2014 21:57, mad a écrit : > Hi! > > I'm stumped. On my home network all my Debian installations _only_ use > the router as clock source. > > # ntpq -p > remote refidst t when poll reach delay offset jitter >

ntpd confusion

2014-11-22 Thread mad
Hi! I'm stumped. On my home network all my Debian installations _only_ use the router as clock source. # ntpq -p remote refidst t when poll reach delay offset jitter fritz.box X.Y.Z.A 3 u- 64

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Buntunub
Lisi Reisz wrote > Systemd is available in the current stable, (see below) and people have > had > time to play and fall in love with it (or not). So in how many Stable > versions of Linux are you saying that it should be available, before those > who wish to do so will have had long enough to

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Joel Rees
2014/11/23 2:57 "Lisi Reisz" : > > On Saturday 22 November 2014 16:03:54 Buntunub wrote: > > I > > certainly have no qualms about including Systemd in the next stable > > release, and I actually encourage it, so that people will have time to play > > with it and come to know and possibly even fall

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-22 Thread Teresa e Junior
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:56:41 -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote: Hello! I am using curl 7.26.0-1+wheezy11, and when I run `curl https://www.basebit.com.br', it fails with the message: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error This works: curl --ciphers D

Re: systemctl disable does not remove /etc/rc?.d symlinks

2014-11-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 22 nov 14, 17:53:09, Jean-Marc wrote: > hi everybody, > > I disabled NFS yesterday using a . > > The output I got was OK, displaying the whole bunch of messages saying it > updated symlinks using . > > But today, it restarted. And it is normal: the symlinks are still there. > > I re-did

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 22 November 2014 16:03:54 Buntunub wrote: > I > certainly have no qualms about including Systemd in the next stable > release, and I actually encourage it, so that people will have time to play > with it and come to know and possibly even fall in love with it. I > seriously do not under

Re: Block size confusion.

2014-11-22 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Thank for you detail update. can you please also share with your experience that. when i "dstat" i some time see wait time between 10-17 and at that time my system works slow. and my processor shows normal. what i have read about that wait values this is due to IO issues. now my question is how wou

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 04:17:20PM -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote: > >>With curl 7.26.0-1+wheezy11? If your version is newer, I thought maybe I > >>could backport it from Jessie, but I don't know which package has the > >>problem here, if cURL, OpenSSL, GnuTLS, etc. > >> > > > >My version is older, a

Re: Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:59:11PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 21 November 2014 22:43:11 Ross Boylan wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Scott Ferguson > > > > wrote: > > > On 21/11/14 15:13, Ross Boylan wrote: > > >> Over the last week I've repeatedly found my machine unbootable,

systemctl disable does not remove /etc/rc?.d symlinks

2014-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc
hi everybody, I disabled NFS yesterday using a . The output I got was OK, displaying the whole bunch of messages saying it updated symlinks using . But today, it restarted. And it is normal: the symlinks are still there. I re-did again verifying the symlinks and they stay unchanged. Something

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Buntunub
I understand your reasons for thinking Systemd is bad for Debian. I do, and I also agree with some of them. However, Debian is composed of a diverse group of people who have every viewpoint under the sun from Systemd is the bane of Linux, to Systemd is the best thing to ever happen to Linux. No mat

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Martin Read wrote: On 22/11/14 09:50, lee wrote: Nobody understands udev rules, Challenge accepted. *looks at /etc/udev/rules.d* *looks at /lib/udev/rules.d* I'm honestly baffled that someone who is capable of comfortably using emacs thinks these files are incomprehensible. They appear to b

Re: Block size confusion.

2014-11-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 21 nov 14, 12:41:35, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > > Nowadays disks may hide this in their interface, but on the physical > media (I'm thinking of spinning rusty platters), we still have to obey > the laws of physics. Changing the magnetisation of a single spot is on > neigh-impossible without

Re: Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 21 nov 14, 14:43:11, Ross Boylan wrote: > > grub needs to know where it should jump to. I don't know how it can > figure that out from inside a chroot. For example, say /boot inside > the chroot is mounted from sdb2. To the chroot, it's just part of the > filesystem. How is grub-install t

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Martin Read
On 22/11/14 09:50, lee wrote: Nobody understands udev rules, Challenge accepted. *looks at /etc/udev/rules.d* *looks at /lib/udev/rules.d* I'm honestly baffled that someone who is capable of comfortably using emacs thinks these files are incomprehensible. They appear to be written in a doma

Re: apt-get source download has files not in git repository

2014-11-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
HI, On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:05:08PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 08:03:58AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 20 nov 14, 12:29:32, Joel Roth wrote: ... > Yes, they are. I'm curious at which step they get generated. Your original post should have "dbus" in the command

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 10 nov 14, 18:20:37, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 11/10/2014 6:18 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Am 11.11.2014 um 00:14 schrieb Miles Fidelman: > > > >> Ok, then explain to me the procedure for running the installer in such a > >> way that systemd is never installed, thus avoiding any potential > >

Re: Asterisk security

2014-11-22 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Scott Ferguson wrote: Sorry - I don't have an authoritative answer to that. It 'might' help if you gave some information about which release you are using. Current Debian stable; 1:1.8.13.1~dfsg1-3+deb7u3 Did you scroll down and look at the "Corrected in" section and compare the v

Re: Warning - bleachbit might kill KDE

2014-11-22 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 08:34:08AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 22/11/14 05:53, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 21 November 2014 18:42:20 Stephen Allen wrote: > >>> So, do not use this option in bleachbit! I already filed a bugreport and > >>> think this warning might help others. > >> > >> Yo

Re: Warning - bleachbit might kill KDE

2014-11-22 Thread Stephen Allen
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 06:53:07PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 21 November 2014 18:42:20 Stephen Allen wrote: > > > So, do not use this option in bleachbit! I already filed a bugreport and > > > think this warning might help others. > > > > You should file a bug report. Run reportbug, shou

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
Dear sockpuppet - I'm surprised you're still around, I heard your bridge fell on you. [saddened] On 22/11/14 23:22, Gregory Smith wrote: > Social progressives won. And that's a bad thing? I'm guessing you'd prefer social regressives (the anti-social) won. > > On 11/22/14, Scott Ferguson wrote:

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Ron
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:43:01 +1100 Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what they don't want. > >> The winner was "developers will work it out themselves" i.e. Debian won. > > > > Another reading being "The Developpers won, Debian lost"... > > Only reads

Re: Asterisk security

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 23:20, Rob van der Putten wrote: > Hi there > > > A lot of bugs [1] but no Debian updates. > Should I be concerned? Sorry - I don't have an authoritative answer to that. It 'might' help if you gave some information about which release you are using. > > [1] For instance; > http://d

Asterisk security

2014-11-22 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there A lot of bugs [1] but no Debian updates. Should I be concerned? [1] For instance; http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/security/AST-2014-012.html Regards, Rob -- Comet: A very large bouncy castle. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "un

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 22:14, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:46:19 +1100 > Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what they don't want. >> The winner was "developers will work it out themselves" i.e. Debian won. > > Another reading being "The Develop

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Scott Ferguson wrote: It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what they don't want. The winner was "developers will work it out themselves" i.e. Debian won. This whole bit about "developers are not being forced to do what they don't want" and "developers will work it out themselves" i

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Ron
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:46:19 +1100 Scott Ferguson wrote: > It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what they don't want. > The winner was "developers will work it out themselves" i.e. Debian won. Another reading being "The Developpers won, Debian lost"... Cheers, Ron. -- Democr

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
Please don't top post. On 22/11/14 20:50, lee wrote: > > Didier, > > you have *totally* missed the OPs point. > > BTW, since you assume that no "systemd takeover" Hyperbole much? > will happen (despite it > already has), > what has been the outcome of the GR to support multiple > init sys

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread lee
Didier, you have *totally* missed the OPs point. BTW, since you assume that no "systemd takeover" will happen (despite it already has), what has been the outcome of the GR to support multiple init systems? Other than that, the OP has a good point. I found that every time something is related

Re: Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 19:50, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 22 November 2014 00:47:00 Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 22/11/14 09:59, Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> On Friday 21 November 2014 22:43:11 Ross Boylan wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 21/11/14 15:13, Ross

Re: Warning - bleachbit might kill KDE

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/11/14 19:07, Hans wrote: >> >> Lisi, my first thought also, but... 'perhaps' Stephen *did* read >> the OP's comment, and like myself, as a result of looking for the >> bug report in an effort to find any useful information without >> having to ask the OP - couldn't find any such bug repor

Re: Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 22 November 2014 00:47:00 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 22/11/14 09:59, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 21 November 2014 22:43:11 Ross Boylan wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Scott Ferguson > >> > >> wrote: > >>> On 21/11/14 15:13, Ross Boylan wrote: > Over the last week

Re: Warning - bleachbit might kill KDE

2014-11-22 Thread Hans
Hi, as I wrote in my first comment, I already wrote a bugreport using reportbug. If there is none, then maybe my reportbug is not working properly. I am going to have to check this. Thanks for the advice. Best Hans > > Lisi, my first thought also, but... 'perhaps' Stephen *did* read the > OP