On Sb, 22 nov 14, 22:49:48, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > At the moment I have removed systemd from my jessie system. It is, > despite the absence of systemd, a Debian Jessie system. Sure.
> In fact, refracta, one of the so-called forks that avoids systemd, > actuallu uses Debian's own Jessie package repositories. It isn't a fork, > but more a different way of using Jessie from that installed by default > by the current Jessie installer. I'll have to disagree here. If refracta would use *only* unmodified Debian packages then it would be called a Debian Pure Blend[1]. [1] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends Asking questions about any derivative or systems using it would not work out so well for simple practical reasons: for a Debian users there is no way to tell whether the problem applies to Debian or is specific to that specific derivative. The fact that a derivative may or may not use systemd is completely irrelevant to this fact. > It is still Jessie, and as far as I can tell, ... > a Jessie syste taht uses systemv init is still a Jessie system. This is true, and users of a Debian Jessie system will receive support here, whether it runs sysvinit or not. > But it is absurd to say that discussing these real problems faced by > Debian users, and their potential remedies, is off topic in the debian- > user mailing list. How about "a waste of resources"? Imagine a thread like this: A: I have $problem, please help B: Sure, do $this or $that A: $this fails and I can't install package $foo to do $that B: That's strange, both work fine here, but maybe try $other A: $other fails as well [several more mails] B: (desperate): This can't happen on a Debian system! A: But, I'm running $derivative, not Debian B: ... > There are lots of topics on this list that aren't relevant to me. But if > they are relevant to other users I' not going to declare them off topic. Sure, let's just merge all mailing lists[2] into one, why have separate mailing lists for all these different topics? All you have to do is delete the stuff that doesn't interest you :) [2] https://lists.debian.org/completeindex.html Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt
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