Re: Version Debian. Help!

2014-10-23 Thread Jochen Spieker
Светлана Пендик: > Please, help! > I have netbook samsung NP-N150-JA01UA. > What version Linux Debian need I? You should use Debian wheezy (stable), either amd64 (works for 64 Bit Intel CPUs as well) or i386 from here: https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable If your internet connection is not

Version Debian. Help!

2014-10-23 Thread Светлана Пендик
Please, help! I have netbook samsung NP-N150-JA01UA. What version Linux Debian need I? (It is very urgently for me) I will set up Linux in virtualBox. Base OS is Windows7 Ultimate(license). All RAM is 2Gb. I'll give 1Gb for Linux. Sorry, I have bad english and thanks.

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Rusi Mody
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:10:05 AM UTC+5:30, Bob Proulx wrote: > Igor Sverkos wrote: > > As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all the > > time. > > dpkg has added fsync() calls after all file actions. This > significantly slows down file operations. Basically

Re: initramfs-tools 0.118 makes systems unbootable with 5 second message

2014-10-23 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
Thanks! I was now able to document the cause https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=766448 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87ppdim3ei@j

Re: lightdm's "Default Xsession"?

2014-10-23 Thread Raffaele Morelli
On 23/10/14 at 07:38pm, John Conover wrote: > > I use two WM, (xfce and fvwm.) Lightdm's "Default Xsession" is fvwm2. > > How do I change lightdm's "Default Xsession" to xfce? > > Thanks, > > John > > -- > > John Conover, cono...@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ > > > -- > To UN

Re: Problem with external monitor

2014-10-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 14 oct 14, 03:59:04, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> Apart from the politics of the free vs proprietary software, what do >> you know of any differences (as in advantages/disadvantages, if any) >> between the two driver types? > > In my experience nouveau is s

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread Ric Moore
To the OP: Stack. THANK YOU for starting an intelligent systemd Q&A. One feature I read about is that systemd will shut down under various conditions that would also prevent exhausting the battery on a laptop. I don't suppose there is anyway to install fresh to get rid of old cruft?? I'm of no

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.10.2014 um 05:39 schrieb ~Stack~: > Sure. I am not familiar with this tool so I am not sure what I am > looking at currently. Thus, here is what I did: > * I tested the Lid Switch by closing and opening the lid; the screen > turns off then back on again. > * I tested the Sleep Button; nothing

Re: Screen doesn't turn off

2014-10-23 Thread Ric Moore
On 10/23/2014 05:45 PM, Catalin Soare wrote: Hi, I've got 2 computera, both running Debian Wheezy, all updates applied. One of them seems to ignore the "Brightness and lock" setting which should make the screen turn off after 30 minutes. It simply remains on all day or night. Anyone have a clue

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread ~Stack~
On 10/23/2014 09:58 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 24.10.2014 um 04:19 schrieb Michael Biebl: > >> For some reason, you seem to be getting acpi events which trigger the >> suspend request in logind. This might be a buggy ACPI implementation >> like in [1]. > > To further debug this, you might inst

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread Joey Hess
Try running this: journalctl -u systemd-logind -f That will show messages logged by logind, for example: Oct 23 23:30:10 darkstar systemd-logind[733]: Lid closed. Oct 23 23:30:12 darkstar systemd-logind[733]: Lid opened. It should also log if it thinks a suspend key is being pressed. It's possi

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread ~Stack~
On 10/23/2014 10:01 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 24.10.2014 um 04:36 schrieb ~Stack~: > >> So while I was waiting on a response, I copied off the syslog to another >> box to examine it (in only 3 tries! :-). There is a re-occuring theme >> and it does look like I may have just missed the info pre

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.10.2014 um 04:58 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Am 24.10.2014 um 04:19 schrieb Michael Biebl: > >> For some reason, you seem to be getting acpi events which trigger the >> suspend request in logind. This might be a buggy ACPI implementation >> like in [1]. > > To further debug this, you might ins

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.10.2014 um 04:36 schrieb ~Stack~: > So while I was waiting on a response, I copied off the syslog to another > box to examine it (in only 3 tries! :-). There is a re-occuring theme > and it does look like I may have just missed the info previous to the > systemd-sleep. See snippet below. The

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.10.2014 um 04:19 schrieb Michael Biebl: > For some reason, you seem to be getting acpi events which trigger the > suspend request in logind. This might be a buggy ACPI implementation > like in [1]. To further debug this, you might install the "evtest" package and run the evtest binary as ro

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread ~Stack~
On 10/23/2014 09:19 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Hi, > > Am 24.10.2014 um 02:40 schrieb ~Stack~: >> I think I last booted/updated this laptop last weekend. I booted it up >> tonight to mess around on it and the first thing, as always, was to run >> updates. A bunch of systemd stuff updated. Now the

Re: lightdm's "Default Xsession"?

2014-10-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/10/14 13:38, John Conover wrote: > > I use two WM, (xfce and fvwm.) Lightdm's "Default Xsession" is fvwm2. > > How do I change lightdm's "Default Xsession" to xfce? > > Thanks, > > John > As root:- /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s xfce4-session Ref:- /usr/

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.10.2014 um 04:19 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Once you're logged in, run "systemd-inhibit --what=sleep /bin/sleep > 3600" [1]. This should block any suspend requests for one hour. Hm, actually, it's probably better to block the handling of the lid-switch, power and suspend/hibernate keys. Plea

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread ~Stack~
On 10/23/2014 08:29 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2014, ~Stack~ wrote: >> It boots and it will sit at the log in screen for quite some time like >> everything is good and happy. If I log in either via GUI (LXDE) or via >> command line, the laptop goes to sleep anywhere between 2 and 15

Re: initramfs-tools 0.118 makes systems unbootable with 5 second message

2014-10-23 Thread Joey Hess
積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > On all my systems, initramfs-tools 0.116 works fine, > installing 0.118 just gives some message about rebooting in 5 seconds that is > not > enough time to read. I.e., the system becomes unbootable. Sounds like the below code, which is triggered if fsck fails and for som

lightdm's "Default Xsession"?

2014-10-23 Thread John Conover
I use two WM, (xfce and fvwm.) Lightdm's "Default Xsession" is fvwm2. How do I change lightdm's "Default Xsession" to xfce? Thanks, John -- John Conover, cono...@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi, Am 24.10.2014 um 02:40 schrieb ~Stack~: > I think I last booted/updated this laptop last weekend. I booted it up > tonight to mess around on it and the first thing, as always, was to run > updates. A bunch of systemd stuff updated. Now the laptop is dang near > unusable. Could you please chec

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread ~Stack~
On 10/23/2014 08:32 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > 2014/10/24 9:57 "~Stack~" >: >> It boots and it will sit at the log in screen for quite some time like >> everything is good and happy. If I log in either via GUI (LXDE) or via >> command line, the laptop goes to sleep anywhe

Re: How To Prove Systemd Can|Cannot Be Jessie Default

2014-10-23 Thread Joel Rees
2014/10/24 0:45 "David L. Craig" : > > On 14Oct23:0004-0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: > > > Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself? > > The code speaks when its execution reveals a need to > run reportbug (or not). When we fail to run reportbug, > we muzzle the code and possibly allo

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014, ~Stack~ wrote: > It boots and it will sit at the log in screen for quite some time like > everything is good and happy. If I log in either via GUI (LXDE) or via > command line, the laptop goes to sleep anywhere between 2 and 15 > seconds later. I have to hit the power button (n

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread Joel Rees
2014/10/24 9:57 "~Stack~" : > > Greetings, > > I have been running Jessie i386 on a spare laptop just so I can see how > all the big changes that are coming will impact me. For the last few > months, nothing too big has really hit me (at least none that don't have > a bug filed already). Well, that

initramfs-tools 0.118 makes systems unbootable with 5 second message

2014-10-23 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
On all my systems, initramfs-tools 0.116 works fine, installing 0.118 just gives some message about rebooting in 5 seconds that is not enough time to read. I.e., the system becomes unbootable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: user authentication for a secure laptop.

2014-10-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/10/14 03:10, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > In lightdm this has no apparent effect. > # /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf > autologin-user=username > autologin-user-timeout=0 > > Odd. Has anyone made autologin work in lightdm? Yes! I just tried, and succeeded. xfce4 4.8.0.3 lightdm 1.2.2-4 kern

Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

2014-10-23 Thread ~Stack~
Greetings, I have been running Jessie i386 on a spare laptop just so I can see how all the big changes that are coming will impact me. For the last few months, nothing too big has really hit me (at least none that don't have a bug filed already). Well, that is until now. I think I last booted/upd

Problems with openbox-menu in Sid

2014-10-23 Thread Frank McCormick
I dl'ed and installed openbox-menu, and set it up using openbox's menu editor as a pipe menu. I have tried various combinations (-x for the xfce menu items and -g for the Gnome menu) but most of the caategories when I call it up in Openbox are (null). Is anyone running this under Openbox? T

Re: redo

2014-10-23 Thread Lee Winter
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard < j.deboynepollard-newsgro...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Lee Winter: > >> One key component of an effective startup process is dependency >> > > handling. So why not look for one of the best as a model? I > > suggest DJB's redo system. It

Re: redo

2014-10-23 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Lee Winter: One key component of an effective startup process is dependency > handling. So why not look for one of the best as a model? I > suggest DJB's redo system. It is excruciatingly simple. But very > effective. And it is the opposite of monolithic. Is "practically nonexistent" the o

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-10-23 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014, koanhead wrote: > On 10/20/2014 04:00 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > After much vitriolic gnashing of teeth from those opposed to > > systemd, I wonder... What is a better alternative? And it can't > > be sysvinit. > > > > Yes. Syvinit still works, but it is after all 20 ye

Re: setup the PMU to generate an interrupt on x number of LLC misses

2014-10-23 Thread Emanuel Berg
"Devrin Talen" writes: > To block on accesses to a file until it actually has > data for you try reading up on the `select` call: > > % man 2 select That would be great because that is exactly what I need. However I didn't get it to work. I always get "No data." for the below code, but it d

Screen doesn't turn off

2014-10-23 Thread Catalin Soare
Hi, I've got 2 computera, both running Debian Wheezy, all updates applied. One of them seems to ignore the "Brightness and lock" setting which should make the screen turn off after 30 minutes. It simply remains on all day or night. Anyone have a clue what additional setting I should check? Thank

Re: containers/chroot to allow ABI breakage is the wrong approach

2014-10-23 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Gregory Smith dixit: >They say you're a hard nose, skeptical, untrusting, old unix admin and >programmer from the old days and you do not take one ounce of My old days were on DOS¹. I am a relative newcomer to the Unix world, starting about 1999. But I grew up with the “old values”, including the

Re: X Server not available after Sid update on 21 Oct.

2014-10-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014, Jürgen Kleber wrote: > I did not mention yet that I tried lightdm/xfce4 - and it failed, too. > You should assign the bug additionally to lightdm. What was output to syslog when you did this? What versions of these packages did you have installed? What is output to ~/.xsess

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-10-23 Thread koanhead
On 10/20/2014 04:00 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > After much vitriolic gnashing of teeth from those opposed to systemd, > I wonder... What is a better alternative? And it can't be sysvinit. > > Yes. Syvinit still works, but it is after all 20 years old. It's been > patched and bolted onto and jur

Re: X Server not available after Sid update on 21 Oct.

2014-10-23 Thread Jürgen Kleber
Am Donnerstag, den 23.10.2014, 11:59 -0700 schrieb Don Armstrong: > Control: retitle -1 gdm3 fails to load login screen (with less-than-useful > error message) > Control: severity -1 important > Control: tag -1 moreinfo > Control: reassign -1 gdm3 > Control: found -1 3.14.1-1 > > On Thu, 23 Oct

Re: How To Prove Systemd Can|Cannot Be Jessie Default

2014-10-23 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Oct23:2035+0300, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: > That's not the point. From the technical point of > view, IMO, you are correct but that's not the only > view that exists in Debian Project, me thinks. [snip] > My choices reg. my use of technology isn't based > only on technical grounds, y

Muslimat Lebih Jantan Drpd Pemuda PAS Melaka

2014-10-23 Thread Kuasa Rakyat
Assalamualaikum w.b.t. Dewan Muslimat Negeri Melaka (DMPNM) kecewa dengan sikap kerajaan negeri yang turut disokong kerajaan pusat melalui Kementerian Pelancongan dan Kebudayaan, yang menjadikan pesta arak sebagai salah satu cara menjana ekonomi negeri. Ketuanya Ustazah Kintan Man, berkata sew

Re: terminology: how do you change the foreground colour?

2014-10-23 Thread lee
Darac Marjal writes: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 01:49:17PM +0200, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> the subject already says it: How do you change the foreground colour in >> terminology? I can only set the background. > > $ tput setaf 2 && echo This text is green. > > See man tput for more information o

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-23 Thread lee
Brian writes: > On Tue 21 Oct 2014 at 22:54:19 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Brian writes: >> >> >> On Sun 19 Oct 2014 at 01:19:51 +0200, lee wrote: >> >> >> >> At least they are supporting others in breaking RFCs, and I wonder how >> >> that could not be against their own interests. In any case, it

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-23 Thread lee
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > The only problem is bash, here: it is unable to handle > multi-instances, so the histories are lost more or less randomly when > I close/spawn terminals and sessions. # append history rather than overwriting it shopt -s histappend Do you use tmux? --

Re: X Server not available after Sid update on 21 Oct.

2014-10-23 Thread Don Armstrong
Control: retitle -1 gdm3 fails to load login screen (with less-than-useful error message) Control: severity -1 important Control: tag -1 moreinfo Control: reassign -1 gdm3 Control: found -1 3.14.1-1 On Thu, 23 Oct 2014, Jürgen Kleber wrote: > after updating the system on 21 Oct. the X server was

X Server not available after Sid update on 21 Oct.

2014-10-23 Thread Jürgen Kleber
Hello everybody, after updating the system on 21 Oct. the X server was no longer working. For details, see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=766374 . Does anybody have a Sid-System (AMD64; as a second system, not for daily use) and could post the issue of apt-get update / apt-get d

Re: Strange hardware problem, any clue is welcome

2014-10-23 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "B. M." > > I have a really strange problem with an computer from this fruit company > in my family: > > It's an iMac from 2008, still running osx 10.6, but I put Testing on it > several months ago as the second OS (which is much better, as I > think...). Th

Re: How To Prove Systemd Can|Cannot Be Jessie Default

2014-10-23 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 23-10-2014 18:29, David L. Craig έγραψε: On 14Oct23:0004-0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself? < snip > If you want systemd to not be the default, you need to prove to the Release Team it is unworthy, and the only way to do that is to do

Re: understanding kernel compilation and

2014-10-23 Thread Chris Bannister
Please don't top post on this mailing list. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 04:22:30PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > Actually the problem is i am trying to install KVM guest windows 7 64 bit. > during the installation everything went well. but when guest start for the > first time my KVM guest sho

Re: understanding kernel compilation and

2014-10-23 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 03:20:36 -0400 (EDT), Muhammad Yousuf wrote: > > actually i never compile or patch any kernel before for some reasons and > learning i am installing kernel 3.16 stable with patch. > now the question is when i visit kernel.org website i see 3.16 kernel and > patch and inc.patch.

Re: Error code 1...........

2014-10-23 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 08:10:01 +0200 Joel Rees wrote: > Probably a meaningless suggestion, but have you tried > > apt-get clean > > ? Yes once in a while, but I use: apt-get autoclean instead and that's before making a weekly image using terabyte image for Linux. (and windows if you like) it

Re: How To Prove Systemd Can|Cannot Be Jessie Default

2014-10-23 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Oct23:0004-0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: > Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself? The code speaks when its execution reveals a need to run reportbug (or not). When we fail to run reportbug, we muzzle the code and possibly allow that bug to be part of the Jessie release. Hop

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-23 Thread berenger . morel
Le 20.10.2014 17:29, Steve Litt a écrit : On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 03:37:56 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: And, finally, I consider myself as a DE user. My DE is built by myself around a terminal-emulator, a tiling window manager, Which one? i3 I use Openbox, which of course is

Re: Wireless connection problems after testing upgrade

2014-10-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014, Sam Varghese wrote: > Having read what is available, it looks like this is due to a problem > between systemd and wpa-supplicant; an older version of wpa-supplicant > seems to work well with systemd, not the latest. Which versions of systemd and wpasupplicant do you have insta

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014, Brian wrote: > will remove systemd-sysv. Is there any benefit to adding 'systemd-sysv-'? It just tells the resolver more information about the solution that you want. In some situations, the resolver may give you a useless solution, like not installing the package you asked it

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-23 Thread berenger . morel
Le 21.10.2014 23:37, Steve Litt a écrit : On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:58:27 +0200 lee wrote: berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > But my opinion is that, it's the accumulation of tools using > different slow languages, which will kill the computer's resources > (shell, python2, python3, php,

Re: KVM libvirt issue on Debian Wheezy specifically Windows 7 64bit

2014-10-23 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
just adding some more info. I have been using Proxmox 3.x for quite some time on the same hardware but for some learning purpose i installed libvirt and virt-manager. Proxmox also based on same KVM engine and Debian destro and my windows 7 64 bit is working great even i have installed Server 2012

Re: understanding kernel compilation and

2014-10-23 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Thanks Dervin, for the encouragement and it is really nice to know that there is a community exist for newbies as well.i will definitly start working on your given information it is very helpful. just sharing to all after lots of efforts and updates nothing has achieved so far. started a new email

KVM libvirt issue on Debian Wheezy specifically Windows 7 64bit

2014-10-23 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
i am trying to install a 64bit Windows 7 and i fail to start the guest i tried my best. i upgraded the kernel to 3.16 i upgraded the Qemu-kvm package from backports. where ever i start the machine shows this error. 2014-10-23 13:55:45.281+: starting up LC_ALL=C PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-23 Thread Brian
On Thu 23 Oct 2014 at 04:29:59 -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: > Well I also seem to have systemd-shim installed. > So I am confused... How all this adds up... In its maintainer's words: systemd-shim expresses no preference for init system, and is completely coinstallable with systemd-sysv - and shoul

Re: dpkg "no space left on device" errors (lots of room left)

2014-10-23 Thread John Bleichert
On 10/22/2014 07:10 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: The faulty package is system-config-printer which linterally creates millions of files in /tmp [1]. As as side-effect, you'll see that rebooting your system can take ages, when /tmp is being cleaned up [2] and you likely see output like this: "a st

Re: Have never seen this previously...........

2014-10-23 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:52:36PM +1100, Charlie wrote: > > From my Keyboard: > > Debian Jessie amd64 > Toshiba laptop > Upgrade of a moment ago: > > Installing for i386-pc platform. > grub-install: warning: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot > Partition; embedding won't be po

Have never seen this previously...........

2014-10-23 Thread Charlie
From my Keyboard: Debian Jessie amd64 Toshiba laptop Upgrade of a moment ago: Installing for i386-pc platform. grub-install: warning: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible. grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be

quilt & debian-jenkis-glue

2014-10-23 Thread George Shuklin
Hello. I can't get normal workflow with quilt & debian-jenkins-glue. Quilt allows nice patch management, but it expects to have debian/patches and source code be available simultaneously. But debian-jenkins-glue wants to have upstream source code in one branch and debian files on other (mast

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Igor Sverkos
Hi, I already read the FAQ, that's why I am already using the "nodelalloc" mount option. I also tried "eatmydata": > # eatmydata annotate-output apt-get install --reinstall tzdata > 14:02:27 I: Started apt-get install --reinstall tzdata > 14:02:27 O: Reading package lists... > 14:02:27 O: Buildi

Re: understanding kernel compilation and

2014-10-23 Thread Devrin Talen
Muhammad Yousuf Khan writes: > So my KVM host is not a production server so i thought it is a best time to > play with the kernal patching because i am working on linux for years but > never > perform such task i always rely on default/stable debian repository but this > is > a first time i am

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-23 Thread Miles Fidelman
Brian wrote: On Wed 22 Oct 2014 at 21:41:02 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 22 oct 14, 17:50:52, Miles Fidelman wrote: How can I prevent a specific package from ever being installed? ... That doesn't work at install time - when the init package is installed by Tha

Re: understanding kernel compilation and

2014-10-23 Thread idiotei...@gmail.com
On 23/10/2014 14:22, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: Actually the problem is i am trying to install KVM guest windows 7 64 bit. during the installation everything went well. but when guest start for the first time my KVM guest shows "booting from harddirve..." and struck. my "/var/log/libvirt/qem

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-23 Thread Brian
On Wed 22 Oct 2014 at 21:41:02 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >On Mi, 22 oct 14, 17:50:52, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >>How can I prevent a specific package from ever being installed? > >... > >>That doesn't work at install time - when the init package is installed by > >Thank

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-23 Thread Rusi Mody
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:40:04 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote: > On Thu 23 Oct 2014 at 00:44:29 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > As penitence for being mean to Steve I've just written > > https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#systemd > Regarding > >apt-get install sysvinit-core systemd-s

Strange hardware problem, any clue is welcome

2014-10-23 Thread B. M.
I have a really strange problem with an computer from this fruit company in my family: It's an iMac from 2008, still running osx 10.6, but I put Testing on it several months ago as the second OS (which is much better, as I think...). Therefore I shrinked the existing partition on the 500GB SATA h

Re: understanding kernel compilation and

2014-10-23 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Actually the problem is i am trying to install KVM guest windows 7 64 bit. during the installation everything went well. but when guest start for the first time my KVM guest shows "booting from harddirve..." and struck. my "/var/log/libvirt/qemu/(myguestfile) show this >KVM: entry

Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

2014-10-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 09:32:31AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 08:25:31AM +0200, Ludovic Meyer wrote: > >>Even with the addition 10 to 20 people posting on systemd, > >>it shouldn't be a issue. > >Andrei's point was not that the list /infrastruc

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-23 Thread Brian
On Thu 23 Oct 2014 at 00:44:29 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > As penitence for being mean to Steve I've just written > https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#systemd Regarding apt-get install sysvinit-core systemd-shim systemd-sysv- The command apt-get install sysvinit-core systemd-s

Re: understanding kernel compilation and

2014-10-23 Thread Raffaele Morelli
On 23/10/14 at 03:37pm, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > Thanks for your guidence, > can you please share that i do not see kernel architecture on the website. > does that kernel file contain both x86 and amd64? > ...of course it does. But, do you know what are you doing? -- « Nunc est bibendum,

Re: How To Prove Systemd Can|Cannot Be Jessie Default

2014-10-23 Thread Josef Leo Bureš
Dne Čt 23. října 2014 11:23:51 Andrei POPESCU napsal(a): > update-rc.d kdm disable I didn't know this command, but I know similar command sysv-rc-conf. Thank you. -- Josef Leo Bureš --- „Teoretické znalosti dnes už nestačí. Člověk musí překročit jejich hranice a umění se stane neumělým uměním

Re: How To Prove Systemd Can|Cannot Be Jessie Default

2014-10-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/10/14 17:08, Josef Leo Bureš wrote: > Dne Čt 23. října 2014 06:04:11 Charles Kroeger napsal(a): > >> Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself? > Yes, it's possible one from possibilities of code speaking. > I have the systemd and have one problem with it, starting kdm, if I ne

Re: understanding kernel compilation and

2014-10-23 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Thanks for your guidence, can you please share that i do not see kernel architecture on the website. does that kernel file contain both x86 and amd64? On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 2:51 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com < tv.deb...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On 23/10/2014 10:20, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: >

Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

2014-10-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 03:16:59PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > >- the LSB is a joint project of several Linux distributions. Ironically: > > > > "The LSB has been criticized for not taking input from projects, most > > notably the Debian project, outside the spher

Re: understanding kernel compilation and

2014-10-23 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On 23/10/2014 10:20, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: actually i never compile or patch any kernel before for some reasons and learning i am installing kernel 3.16 stable with patch. now the question is when i visit kernel.org website i see 3.16 kernel and patch and inc.patch. i can understand what i

Re: How To Prove Systemd Can|Cannot Be Jessie Default

2014-10-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 23 oct 14, 08:08:56, Josef Leo Bureš wrote: > Dne Čt 23. října 2014 06:04:11 Charles Kroeger napsal(a): > > > Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself? > Yes, it's possible one from possibilities of code speaking. > I have the systemd and have one problem with it, starting kd

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 23 oct 14, 08:33:00, Curt wrote: > > What about some of the other workarounds/solutions outlined here > (there)? > > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/FAQ#User_Questions > > (Q: Why is dpkg so slow when using new filesystems such as btrfs or ext4?) I'd be interested about the 'nodelallo

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 22 oct 14, 20:07:06, Rusi Mody wrote: > > Thanks Andrei for that. > Some suggestions hopefully not too contentious :-) Constructive feedback is always welcome :) > 1. "Some packages may depend on systemd" should probably be linked to >some mention of gnome. [My hunch is that gnome is

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-23, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > I expect this suggestion to be followed by many people griping that my > suggestion is unsafe and that the years and years we spent living > without fsync() were unsafe. But we did. We had at least a decade of > fast systems in the "before time". And the s

understanding kernel compilation and

2014-10-23 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
actually i never compile or patch any kernel before for some reasons and learning i am installing kernel 3.16 stable with patch. now the question is when i visit kernel.org website i see 3.16 kernel and patch and inc.patch. i can understand what is patch it could be a fix to some bugs but what is

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-10-23 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 05:27:45AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Ok, let's start with: > - it's the rare desktop that has a fiber channel interface snip It's a rare server, too. Nearly all of our physical servers are VM hosts, onto which we fit around 100 VMs. Physical servers are at best <5% of

Re: How To Prove Systemd Can|Cannot Be Jessie Default

2014-10-23 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:04:11AM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: > Systemd or something tried to put another firewall on my computer called > Pyroman I think "or something". Pyroman has absolutely no reverse dependencies, so even a very confused aptitude would not install it automatically. I'm afr