Thanks it worked.
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 02:58:45PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a debian wheezy machine with 12GB RAM and 500GB 7200 RPM
> harddrive WD black 32MB cache.
> >
> > copying host node (local or re
Please stop top-posting. You've been asked by more than one person, on more
than one list, to do this.
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Dne Čt 23. října 2014 06:04:11 Charles Kroeger napsal(a):
> Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself?
Yes, it's possible one from possibilities of code speaking.
I have the systemd and have one problem with it, starting kdm, if I need not
kdm (this is my case), so I have been start
Dne Čt 23. října 2014 06:04:11 Charles Kroeger napsal(a):
> Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself?
Yes, it's possible one from possibilities of code speaking.
I have the systemd and have one problem with it, starting kdm, if I need not
kdm (this is my case), so I have been start
2014/10/23 12:57 "Charles Kroeger" :
>
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:30:02 +0200
> Charlie wrote:
>
> > > > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> > >
> > > When I encountered this error (which was mentioned on this list a few
> > > days ago) I purged the linjpeg-turbo-progs package
Igor Sverkos wrote:
> As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all the
> time.
dpkg has added fsync() calls after all file actions. This
significantly slows down file operations. Basically it disables the
file system buffer cache causing it to operate at disk drive spee
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:10:01 +0200
"David L. Craig" wrote:
> Let's use our
> keyboards to launch test cases in preference to soapbox
> rhetoric that likely proves nothing.
>
> Let's let the code speak for itself for a while.
I've not had many problems with systemd excepting my firewall, Shorewa
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:30:02 +0200
Charlie wrote:
> > > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> >
> > When I encountered this error (which was mentioned on this list a few
> > days ago) I purged the linjpeg-turbo-progs package (on which
> > apparently nothing depended because i
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:20:05 AM UTC+5:30, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 22 oct 14, 23:26:15, Christian Seiler wrote:
>
> [snip excelent explanations]
>
> As penitence for being mean to Steve I've just written
> https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#systemd
Thanks Andrei for that.
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Scott Ferguson <
scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You don't say what DE libraries you use. If you have KDE you might be
> able to find an alternative way (x/y again) of achieving the same
> outcome (I have little knowledge of GNOME).
> Is there a lo
Emanuel Berg writes:
> I have written a program [1] in C++ that uses polling,
> but I was told that wasn't good enough so now I search
> for a "preemptive" or interrupt-based solution.
To block on accesses to a file until it actually has data for you try
reading up on the `select` call:
%
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Mi, 22 oct 14, 17:50:52, Miles Fidelman wrote:
How can I prevent a specific package from ever being installed?
...
That doesn't work at install time - when the init package is installed by
Thanks for the feedback, I just did a slight rewording to fix this
s/from
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:55:57AM +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> On 22/10/14 09:13, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Ma, 21 oct 14, 18:41:53, Steve Litt wrote:
> >> Does Debian still have a systemd-must-die metapackage, and does it
> >> still work in Jessie?
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > I would have e
There is only one way the default init for Jessie can
be changed at this point in time--the Release Team
must conclude systemd will have turned out to be a
release critical nightmare likely well into the feature
freeze. There is only one way for that to happen--lots
of open RC bugs having systemd
On Mi, 22 oct 14, 23:50:32, Albert Yiamakis wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I hope this is a good place to ask about the prospects of running Debian
> Jessie on a Lemote Yeeloong?
If you don't get answers here try debian-mips.
Kind regards,
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Am 22.10.2014 um 21:53 schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
> On Mi, 22 oct 14, 15:45:58, John Bleichert wrote:
>>
>> This is the second time this has happened, so something is eating up inodes
>> on /. I am going to run some aptitude tests and see what happens.
>>
>> Any idea what the OS is doing during boot t
On Mi, 22 oct 14, 17:50:52, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> How can I prevent a specific package from ever being installed?
...
> That doesn't work at install time - when the init package is installed by
Thanks for the feedback, I just did a slight rewording to fix this
s/from ever being installe
On 22/10/14 21:23, Rusi Mody wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:20:05 PM UTC+5:30, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>> Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>> On 21/10/14 15:10, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
>
> Are you guys just having fun talking past each other?
I can only speak for myself -
Hello,
I hope this is a good place to ask about the prospects of running Debian
Jessie on a Lemote Yeeloong? In my searches I have got the impression
that while Lemote was well supported on Wheezy - ie X patch, custom
kernel - this community seems to have died out before their efforts were
extende
On 22/10/14 20:51, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 05:27:45AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>> Scott Ferguson wrote:
>
>> - when's the last time you saw a desktop or laptop with an IPMI BMC
>> (or for that matter, had a BMC infected by a virus - not pretty)
>> (note: if you don't kn
On 22/10/14 20:27, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 21/10/14 15:10, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>> Scott Ferguson wrote:
Good question Patrick - top posted as I'm referring to the Subject.
On 21/10/14 06:45, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> After much vitriolic gnashing of t
On 22/10/14 19:05, Joe wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:04:26 +1100
> Scott Ferguson wrote:
>
>
>>
>> P.S. I have been told that one major distro does (or is attempting to
>> do) just that - separate into a 'server' and a 'desktop' distribution.
>>
>>
>
> What, like Windows?
No.
A Linux distro
That's cool... I realized that, I was using sysvinit-core and then,
libsystemd0 appeared, but it did not forced me to install systemd-sysv.
I'm seeing that systemd is spreading itself everywhere, kind of creepy but,
well, I think that it is better to learn about it now, instead of fighting
it.
If
WOW! Thank you again! :-D
On 22 October 2014 19:26, Christian Seiler wrote:
> > OMFG! Just did an upgrade and guess what?! A "new" packaged appeared,
> > called: "libsystemd0"...
> > [...]
> > I can not believe my eyes... BSD stuff depending on systemd!
>
> The bsdutils package is actually not
Hey Christian,
Thank you for your clarification, I really appreciate it...
My mistake. I understand it better now.
My confusion started when I read that on uselessd webpage:
"What version of systemd is uselessd based on?
systemd-208-stable. We chose this, because it predates kdbus integration
i
On 23/10/2014 12:38 πμ, Christian Seiler wrote:
Am 22.10.2014 23:03, schrieb Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis:
On 22/10/2014 11:29 μμ, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
I meant, it is possible to have sysvinit-core, of course, but, from
now on, at least libsystemd0 is required, you cannot remove it without
doing
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Mi, 22 oct 14, 23:26:15, Christian Seiler wrote:
[snip excelent explanations]
As penitence for being mean to Steve I've just written
https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#systemd
Kind regards,
Andrei
Thanks for the FAQ, but note that this is wrong:
-
"How c
tor...@riseup.net wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 10/21/2014 08:12 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
It occurs to me that the whole notion of packaging and distros may be
becoming less and less relevant.
Well if everybody is forced to use systemd you'll be right. All the
distros will _have_ to be the same. May
On Mi, 22 oct 14, 23:26:15, Christian Seiler wrote:
[snip excelent explanations]
As penitence for being mean to Steve I've just written
https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#systemd
Kind regards,
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On Wed 22 Oct 2014 at 22:51:39 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 22 oct 14, 20:47:47, Brian wrote:
> >
> > Would you please explain the boot "recovery" option.
>
> Boot the Debian installer in recovery mode, e.g. to rescue a broken
> system.
Amazing what one forgets. The mini.iso downloads
Am 22.10.2014 23:03, schrieb Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis:
> On 22/10/2014 11:29 μμ, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
>> I meant, it is possible to have sysvinit-core, of course, but, from
>> now on, at least libsystemd0 is required, you cannot remove it without
>> doing some harm.
>
> And this is precisely w
Doug wrote:
>On 10/21/2014 08:12 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>> It occurs to me that the whole notion of packaging and distros may be
>> becoming less and less relevant.
> Well if everybody is forced to use systemd you'll be right. All the
>distros will _have_ to be the same. Maybe the packaging wi
> OMFG! Just did an upgrade and guess what?! A "new" packaged appeared,
> called: "libsystemd0"...
> [...]
> I can not believe my eyes... BSD stuff depending on systemd!
The bsdutils package is actually not directly from BSD, it's built as
part of util-linux, and provides utilities not specified i
> Hey, remember that kdbus thing?! That did not entered into Linux 3.15
> as expected?!
>
> Guess what?! It is now in PID1!! Can you guys see it?! All kinds of
> trash are being pushed into PID1.
That is very, very misleading at best.
First of all: kdbus is currently an out-of-tree kernel module
On 22/10/2014 11:29 μμ, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
I meant, it is possible to have sysvinit-core, of course, but, from
now on, at least libsystemd0 is required, you cannot remove it without
doing some harm.
And this is precisely why the currently GR is so important to pass .
Quoting "... It will
On Mi, 22 oct 14, 18:25:48, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
> apt-get purge `dpkg -l | grep systemd | awk '{print $2}' | xargs`
apt-get understands regular expressions for the package name, see
apt-get(8) (the section on 'install' command) for more information.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Jimmy, I wrote to you off list, and you put my personal reply on the list.
Please don�t do that. I mean personal replies as personal replies.
I think I am not interested into digging into this topic further anyway.
No problem and sorry as I did not realize you wher
I meant, it is possible to have sysvinit-core, of course, but, from now on,
at least libsystemd0 is required, you cannot remove it without doing some
harm.
And a missing line:
apt-get purge dbus # (never used this on servers).
Best!
Thiago
On 22 October 2014 18:25, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
> BT
BTW, how I installed this Jessie without systemd last week ?
Simple:
apt-get install sysvinit-core
reboot
apt-get purge `dpkg -l | grep systemd | awk '{print $2}' | xargs`
But, this isn't possible anymore, since some "bsd*" packages are depending
on a new package called "libsystemd0".
Cheers!
T
On 10/22/2014 09:45 AM, Marcelo wrote:
Is there a way to use Debian without systemD? I use Debian since Potato and
I never have a lot of problem than I still having in the past tow weeks!
SystemD, Cups with a lot of Symlinks, Please, raise the potato version!
Puleeeze, this issue has been
On 10/22/2014 02:42 PM, Doug wrote:
On 10/22/2014 07:04 AM, Jape Person wrote:
/snip/
I haven't paid a lot of attention to threads concerning systemd because of the
(unfortunate, though occasionally entertaining) hyperbole and innuendo employed
by so many. . . .
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 12:34:16 schrieb Jimmy Johnson:
> Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 11:37:51 schrieben Sie:
> >>> Its Jessie/Sid that are under some circumstances difficult to use
> >>> without
> >>> systemd. As to my current knowledge one of the circumstan
On 10/22/2014 12:17 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Montag, 20. Oktober 2014, 19:49:43 schrieb Jimmy Johnson:
So, what would you all propose? For a server? Or for a user desktop?
Or something that fulfills both scenarios? And why?
Just wondering.
See above and unl
On 10/22/2014 03:55 PM, Peter Palfrader wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, John Bleichert wrote:
Try a df -i You may have run out of inodes
Iain: Bingo - I was down to a single-digit number of inodes on / ...
The box became unusable and had to be reset. Upon booting the OS
"cleaned up temporary f
On 10/22/2014 03:53 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
There is some buggy software (cups?) creating a lot of symlinks in /tmp
or so.
Kind regards,
Andrei
Interesting that you mention that - cups did kick the bucket this
morning and become unusable. I will watch out for it in the future - thanks!
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, John Bleichert wrote:
> >Try a df -i You may have run out of inodes
>
> Iain: Bingo - I was down to a single-digit number of inodes on / ...
>
> The box became unusable and had to be reset. Upon booting the OS
> "cleaned up temporary files" and now I'm back to an IUse% of 4%
On Mi, 22 oct 14, 15:45:58, John Bleichert wrote:
>
> This is the second time this has happened, so something is eating up inodes
> on /. I am going to run some aptitude tests and see what happens.
>
> Any idea what the OS is doing during boot to clean up temporary space? Is it
> something I can
On Mi, 22 oct 14, 20:47:47, Brian wrote:
>
> Would you please explain the boot "recovery" option.
Boot the Debian installer in recovery mode, e.g. to rescue a broken
system.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 11:37:51 schrieben Sie:
Its Jessie/Sid that are under some circumstances difficult to use without
systemd. As to my current knowledge one of the circumstances is an
installed GNOME desktop.
I install using the Debian-Live-KDE-iso(another
On Wed 22 Oct 2014 at 22:16:16 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 22 oct 14, 15:55:03, Brian wrote:
> >
> > This is a different method from using grub's loopback. However, it will
> > still fail at the 'Detect and mount CD-ROM' stage and for the same
> > reason: the netinst image does not cont
On 10/22/2014 03:00 PM, Iain M Conochie wrote:
Try a df -i You may have run out of inodes
Cheers
Iain
Iain: Bingo - I was down to a single-digit number of inodes on / ...
The box became unusable and had to be reset. Upon booting the OS
"cleaned up temporary files" and now I'm back to
Doug wrote:
> On 10/22/2014 03:01 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:
>> John Bleichert wrote:
>>
>>> As of a few days ago I keep getting errors similar to the following when
>>> running aptitude upgrade:
>>
>>>
>>> dpkg: error processing archive
>>> /var/cache/apt/archives/cups-server-common_1.7.5-5_all
" step which is taking all the time.
Link to the created strace debug file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjvlqcke9epn2wl/dpkg-debug.log-20141022.gz?dl=1
> ...
> 43274 1414001632.364669 open("/etc/passwd", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 12
> 43274 1414001632.364763 open("/etc/
On Mi, 22 oct 14, 08:44:02, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 10/21/2014 4:21 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > Upstart was the only real contender to systemd at the time of the
> > evaluation by the Technical Committee, but it has or is being replaced
> > by systemd everywhere.
>
> And why was OPenRC not a co
I am supposed to be using a "fence" to restart Debian based Proxmox
cluster nodes when they fail and to trigger another mirrored node to
become active to replace the failed one. Systemd claims it can
restart/reboot if it detects failure. Anyone tried this yet? Could it be
used as primary fence?
On Mi, 22 oct 14, 15:55:03, Brian wrote:
>
> This is a different method from using grub's loopback. However, it will
> still fail at the 'Detect and mount CD-ROM' stage and for the same
> reason: the netinst image does not contain loop.ko.
It should work with the mini.iso (the netboot image), bec
On 10/22/2014 03:01 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:
John Bleichert wrote:
As of a few days ago I keep getting errors similar to the following when
running aptitude upgrade:
dpkg: error processing archive
/var/cache/apt/archives/cups-server-common_1.7.5-5_all.deb (--unpack):
unable to create
`
On 22/10/14 19:49, John Bleichert wrote:
Hello All,
As of a few days ago I keep getting errors similar to the following
when running aptitude upgrade:
dpkg: error processing archive
/var/cache/apt/archives/cups-server-common_1.7.5-5_all.deb (--unpack):
unable to create
`/usr/share/cu
John Bleichert wrote:
> As of a few days ago I keep getting errors similar to the following when
> running aptitude upgrade:
>
> dpkg: error processing archive
> /var/cache/apt/archives/cups-server-common_1.7.5-5_all.deb (--unpack):
> unable to create
> `/usr/share/cups/templates/ru/set
On 10/22/2014 07:04 AM, Jape Person wrote:
/snip/
I haven't paid a lot of attention to threads concerning systemd because of the
(unfortunate, though occasionally entertaining) hyperbole and innuendo employed
by so many. . . .
Hello All,
As of a few days ago I keep getting errors similar to the following when
running aptitude upgrade:
dpkg: error processing archive
/var/cache/apt/archives/cups-server-common_1.7.5-5_all.deb (--unpack):
unable to create
`/usr/share/cups/templates/ru/set-printer-options-header.
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Hi Jimmy,
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 09:17:16 schrieb Jimmy Johnson:
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Montag, 20. Oktober 2014, 19:49:43 schrieb Jimmy Johnson:
So, what would you all propose? For a server? Or for a user desktop?
Or something that fulfills both sc
Given all the talk about conspiracy theories, it occurs to be to point
out this statement by none other than Lennart Poettering
(http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html
on 9/1/2014) in a blog post titled "Revisiting How We Put Together Linux
Systems"
About a
Hi Jimmy,
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 09:17:16 schrieb Jimmy Johnson:
> Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Am Montag, 20. Oktober 2014, 19:49:43 schrieb Jimmy Johnson:
> >>> So, what would you all propose? For a server? Or for a user desktop?
> >>> Or something that fulfills both scenarios? And w
On Wed 22 Oct 2014 at 09:56:35 -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 8:30:05 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote:
>
> > This is a different method from using grub's loopback. However, it will
> > still fail at the 'Detect and mount CD-ROM' stage and for the same
> > reason: the netinst im
On Wed 22 Oct 2014 at 15:47:57 +, Curt wrote:
> On 2014-10-22, Rusi Mody wrote:
> >
> > Here is a grub menu entry that can boot ubuntu from an iso image
>
> Booting the debian installer from the hard disk:
>
> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en
That is quite a nift
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 8:30:05 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 22 Oct 2014 at 07:00:29 -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:50:06 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote:
> > > menuentry "jessie-DI-b2-i386-netinst" {
> > > loopback loop
> > > (hd1,msdos1)/boot/isos/debian-
On 22/10/2014 7:06 μμ, Martin Read wrote:
On 22/10/14 08:37, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote:
What details do you think are neccecary ?
Just grab a DI-b2 img, install xfce or lxde ( with the menu or with
desktop= doesn't matter ) and then try to remove *all* the systemd
utilities / libr
On Wed 22 Oct 2014 at 13:45:21 +, Marcelo wrote:
> Is there a way to use Debian without systemD? I use Debian since Potato and
> I never have a lot of problem than I still having in the past tow weeks!
> SystemD, Cups with a lot of Symlinks, Please, raise the potato version!
I think you
Patrick Bartek wrote:
After much vitriolic gnashing of teeth from those opposed to systemd,
I wonder... What is a better alternative? And it can't be sysvinit.
Yes. Syvinit still works, but it is after all 20 years old. It's been
patched and bolted onto and jury-rigged to get it to do things
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Montag, 20. Oktober 2014, 19:49:43 schrieb Jimmy Johnson:
So, what would you all propose? For a server? Or for a user desktop?
Or something that fulfills both scenarios? And why?
Just wondering.
See above and unless you are a tester or developer you may want
On 22/10/14 08:37, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote:
What details do you think are neccecary ?
Just grab a DI-b2 img, install xfce or lxde ( with the menu or with
desktop= doesn't matter ) and then try to remove *all* the systemd
utilities / libraries etc.
dbus-daemon is linked against l
On 2014-10-22, Rusi Mody wrote:
>
> Here is a grub menu entry that can boot ubuntu from an iso image
>
>
Booting the debian installer from the hard disk:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en
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On Wednesday 22 October 2014 10:46:13 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> op 19-10-14 14:46, Chris schreef:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm having no luck getting unattended-upgrads working on a Wheezy
> > server. The image for Wheezy is from my vServer provider and has not
> > been a problem until now. I'm not a prog
On Tuesday 21 October 2014 22:59:05 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 21 oct 14, 22:45:20, Chris wrote:
> > $ls -lah |grep apt
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15K Sep 23 08:20 apt
>
> The script is not executable ;)
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
oh... I guess that was the problem. Is this a common pract
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Don Armstrong wrote:
> > Furthermore, the effect of this patch is trivially obtained by using
> > a late_command to remove systemd-sysv and install sysvinit-core.
>
> except for the various reported issues with all the things aptitude
> wants to remove
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote:
> I want to use my mirror for more long time,
> for example the release contains the lines
>
> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 02:49:54 UTC
> Valid-Until: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:49:54 UTC
>
> and then I can't update the system after Tue, 14 Oct 2014
>
> to
On Wed 22 Oct 2014 at 07:00:29 -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:50:06 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote:
>
> > menuentry "jessie-DI-b2-i386-netinst" {
> > loopback loop (hd1,msdos1)/boot/isos/debian-jessie-DI-b2-i386-netinst.iso
> > linux (loop)/install.386/vmlinuz
> > in
Marcelo writes:
> Is there a way to use Debian without systemD?
Yes. Don't use Gnome.
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On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 01:45:21PM +, Marcelo wrote:
> Is there a way to use Debian without systemD? I use Debian since Potato and
Certainly. The 'essential' package "init" depends on systemd-sysv
(systemd) OR sysvinit-core (SysV) OR upstart. Any of these should be
capable of booting the syste
On Wed 22 Oct 2014 at 02:00:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:09:39 -0400
> Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> > Brian wrote:
> > > On Tue 21 Oct 2014 at 15:01:18 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:19:08 +0200
> > >> Liam Proven wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> A blog p
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:50:06 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 22 Oct 2014 at 04:19:35 -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:50:05 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote:
> > > No amount of modification will allow an installation from a netinst
> > > image or CD-1 to complete s
Rusi Mody wrote:
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 5:30:06 PM UTC+5:30, Jochen Spieker wrote:
Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis:
after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie
with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided
the following. In the companie's
Is there a way to use Debian without systemD? I use Debian since Potato and
I never have a lot of problem than I still having in the past tow weeks!
SystemD, Cups with a lot of Symlinks, Please, raise the potato version!
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Jochen Spieker wrote:
Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis:
after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie
with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided
the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll continue with
Wheezy and if there is no a cle
Peter Nieman wrote:
On 21/10/14 21:08, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:18:49 +0200
Raffaele Morelli wrote:
Using systemd since 2014-08-09 with no issues.
Good for you. Let's see if you have no issues 2016-08-09, if Red Hat
wins its war against Linux.
Not qui
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 5:30:06 PM UTC+5:30, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis:
> > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie
> > with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided
> > the following. In the companie's pc's i su
On Wed 22 Oct 2014 at 04:19:35 -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:50:05 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote:
>
> > No amount of modification will allow an installation from a netinst
> > image or CD-1 to complete successfully.
>
> If you say so :-)
I do say so.
> I find it hard t
On 10/21/2014 4:21 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> Upstart was the only real contender to systemd at the time of the
> evaluation by the Technical Committee, but it has or is being replaced
> by systemd everywhere.
And why was OPenRC not a contender?
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On 21/10/14 21:08, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:18:49 +0200
Raffaele Morelli wrote:
Using systemd since 2014-08-09 with no issues.
Good for you. Let's see if you have no issues 2016-08-09, if Red Hat
wins its war against Linux.
Not quite sure I'd go that f
Στις 22-10-2014, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 13:40 +0200, ο/η Jochen Spieker
έγραψε:
> Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis:
> >
> > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie
> > with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided
> > the following. In the companie's pc
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 13:40:49 schrieb Jochen Spieker:
> Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis:
> > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie
> > with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided
> > the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'l
Le 22/10/2014 13:08, Martin Read a écrit :
On 22/10/14 11:28, rudu wrote:
But here on my jessie box, I can't find any GTK+2.0 package to upgrade.
So, what am I missing here ?
The relevant package is "libgtk2.0-0". Note that the version number
appears to have been mis-stated in message #37, an
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:40:49 +0200
Jochen Spieker wrote:
> I really don't get why Debian receives so much hate in this discussion.
> Upstream software depending on systemd is not Debian's choice.
Because of the abysmal lack of communication of the reasons behind the
descision. I tried to bring
I understand people creating new threads partly now, as any thread with the
magic word list admins seem to put into the thread filter easily
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 13:40:49 schrieb Jochen Spieker:
> Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis:
> > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usab
On 10/22/2014 07:41 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 07:04:12 schrieb Jape Person:
On 10/21/2014 09:22 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, Miles Fidelman wrote:
which is immediately followed by completely inaccurate information,
incl
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 07:04:12 schrieb Jape Person:
> On 10/21/2014 09:22 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> > Don Armstrong wrote:
> >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >>> which is immediately followed by completely inaccurate information,
> >>> including:
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis:
>
> after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie
> with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided
> the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll continue with
> Wheezy and if there is no a clear path to Jessie
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 10:56:07 +0100
Martin Read wrote:
> Run apt-get update and look again. If it still isn't there, perhaps
> the Debian mirror you're using is out of date.
Hi,
thanks a lot. Now the package is available. The machine was set up on
On 10/21/2014 09:22 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, Miles Fidelman wrote:
which is immediately followed by completely inaccurate information,
including:
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"With jessie, it will become /easier/ to choose the init system, because
*neither init system is e
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