On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 5:30:06 PM UTC+5:30, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: > > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie > > with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided > > the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll continue with > > Wheezy and if there is no a clear path to Jessie without a trace of > > systemd until Wheezy's support lifetime then bye - bye Debian.
> Good luck finding *any* distro with a current Gnome that does not depend > on systemd. > I really don't get why Debian receives so much hate in this discussion. > Upstream software depending on systemd is not Debian's choice. I guess because Debian spokespersons [whatever that may mean :-) ] are not clear enough to say that the problem is more gnome than systemd. All that debian has to say officially is (something like): - If you want gnome you get systemd. Not ideal but currently cant be helped. [Alternatives to gnome are x,y,z...] - If you dont take gnome then debian guarantees init-system-independence; to wit: Take any one of systemd, upstart, sysv, (or others?) and everything should work If not its a bug, please file a report and debian will try to close it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5f824fda-941f-45a4-99af-d15647ec0...@googlegroups.com