On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 02:50:12PM -0300, Andre N Batista wrote:
>
> But if what you need is authority arguing for authority, instead of
> useless user words, well that's what's happening here:
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00061.html
>
> If you were able to read beyond the
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:53:38 -0700 (PDT)
Rusi Mody wrote:
> On Saturday, October 18, 2014 11:40:01 PM UTC+5:30, Nate Bargmann
> wrote:
> > No, this is not a troll (seems like that is necessary to state up
> > front). I have been experimenting with dropping systemd from my
> > laptop running Sid
On Saturday, October 18, 2014 11:40:01 PM UTC+5:30, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> No, this is not a troll (seems like that is necessary to state up
> front). I have been experimenting with dropping systemd from my laptop
> running Sid but find that even with xfce4-power-manager suspend nor
> hibernate ar
Jonathan Dowland writes:
> My sympathies, I don't think it's an obvious location (ie outside of
> /etc/exim4) and I recall feeling similar when I eventually stumbled
> over it.
>
>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 00:52, Harry Putnam wrote:
>>
>> So, I just insert things the way I want them... and restart e
On 19/10/14 02:29, Peter Nieman wrote:
> On 18/10/14 13:49, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 18/10/14 23:28, Peter Nieman wrote:
>>> On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote:
Why it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown.
>>>
>>> You're asking the wrong question. The question you should ask
>>>
On 10/18/2014 4:41 PM, Joe wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:15:16 -0400
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>
>>
>> You obviously don't understand. MX records identify MTAs - that is,
>> machines which can receive email. MUAs cannot do that.
>>
>> To identify an MUA with an MX record would be a violation o
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 09:17:48PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:44:23 -0500
> Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
> > No, this is not a troll (seems like that is necessary to state up
> > front). I have been experimenting with dropping systemd from my
> > laptop running Sid but find that even w
Hi.
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:25:12 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> Nice!
>
> This was exactly the kind of stuff I've been looking for. I'll probably
> ask you more about it later.
>
> One look at /etc/wpa_supplicant/functions.sh tells me that
> wpa_supplicant is a daemon that's begging to be managed
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 09:46:38PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:18:21 -0700
> Ross Boylan wrote:
>
> > My wheezy system shows 34 packages updated since I last checked, which
> > I think was yesterday. Is this legitimate? I got a security warning
> > about the keys when I first che
Hello! I have noticed that my current setup of Chrome writes to disc
every second. While hunting for the problem, I have found an old bug
report on Google Code about this, and from my tests I concluded my
solution for now would be to run Chrome with its profile and cache in a
tmpfs. Problem sol
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:18:21 -0700
Ross Boylan wrote:
> My wheezy system shows 34 packages updated since I last checked, which
> I think was yesterday. Is this legitimate? I got a security warning
> about the keys when I first checked, but that went away after I did
> another aptitude update.
Steve Litt writes:
> The process, the questions it asked, and the automatic collection of
> my computer's configuration made submitting the bug trivial. *Every*
> project should have one of these.
Unfortunately as soon as you mention email their ears close up.
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 20:20:29 +0100
Keith Peter wrote:
> Hello
>
> On my Jessie laptop with sysvinit, X and IceWM updated to today
> installing wicd with --no-install-recommends brings dbus,
> wpasupplicant and wireless-tools with it.
>
> So I just use wpasupplicant in roaming mode with wpa-gtk
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:15:16 -0400
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
> You obviously don't understand. MX records identify MTAs - that is,
> machines which can receive email. MUAs cannot do that.
>
> To identify an MUA with an MX record would be a violation of the
> domain name system.
>
And I'm reaso
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:44:23 -0500
Nate Bargmann wrote:
> No, this is not a troll (seems like that is necessary to state up
> front). I have been experimenting with dropping systemd from my
> laptop running Sid but find that even with xfce4-power-manager
> suspend nor hibernate are available any
My wheezy system shows 34 packages updated since I last checked, which
I think was yesterday. Is this legitimate? I got a security warning
about the keys when I first checked, but that went away after I did
another aptitude update. I haven't installed any of the new packages
yet.
The update see
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:30:27 +0100
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
>
> Le 18.10.2014 16:14, Brian a écrit :
> > Which once again raises the main question; what does systemd have
> > to do
> > with this? The original post gives an unexplained solution to a
> > non-existent problem.
>
> Db
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:19:26 +0200
Sven Hartge wrote:
> berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
> > I guess that claws uses (lib)dbus to notify dbus-compliant
> > softwares that there is a new mail.
>
> Also claws might get a signal from (for example) network-manager if
> there is a connection
On 17 October 2014 13:02, Pete Orrall wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The first task of my project is done. Openbox is systemd-free, and is
>> intended to be systemd free. So that will form the GUI foundation. I'll
>> come back in the next few days wit
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:16:04 +0100
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Le 18.10.2014 16:29, Peter Nieman a écrit :
> > As far as I am concerned, I don't have the time right now to learn
> > the officially accepted procedures of filing bug reports in Debian
>
> Just run bugreport (or is it repo
On 10/16/2014 9:25 PM, lee wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle writes:
>
>> On 10/12/2014 10:24 PM, lee wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle writes:
>>>
Among other things, legitimate MTAs have MX records. Anti-spam routines
>>>
>>> Who prevents a MUA from having an MX record and sending a HELO that
>>> matches th
On 10/18/2014 05:07 PM, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote:
> 2014-10-18 14:24 keltezéssel, Diogene Laerce írta:
>>> There are several: apticron, cron-apt, unattended-upgrades and I see
>>> update-notifier is being replaced with gnome-packagekit.
>>
>> I was looking for a portable and simple way to notify the
On Saturday 18 October 2014 18:50:12 Andre N Batista wrote:
> Beside the quotes on top, I've seen you say this same mantra over and
> over the past months on your battle to shut down any complaining related
> to the rabbit. Your main line has been from the start: devs are so cute,
No, devs do the
No, this is not a troll (seems like that is necessary to state up
front). I have been experimenting with dropping systemd from my laptop
running Sid but find that even with xfce4-power-manager suspend nor
hibernate are available any more unless I install the policykit-1
package recommended by the
Jonathan Dowland writes:
> Did you not see Lisi's answer to the last time you asked this
> question?
This is an open list. He probably is not subscribed.
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Robert Pommrich writes:
> Why do you just ask the sirs and not the madams, too?
Most likely because he is not a native speaker of english and that was
what he was taught to use as a polite form of address.
> Is it for the same reason that you are not able or willing to find out
> the answer to yo
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:20:25AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Friday 17 October 2014 21:09:59 Dan Ritter wrote:
> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> > On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N Batista wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, berenge...@neutralite.org
wrote:
> Le 18.10.2014 16:14, Brian a écrit :
> > Which once again raises the main question; what does systemd have to
> > do
> > with this? The original post gives an unexplained solution to a
> > non-existent problem.
Great, but that's Gentoo way, we should have made a Gentuish Debian, i.e. port
certain portage features into APT, such as easily control build flgas. But
then it's needed to keep record of not which packages a package depends on,
but which parts of which packages a package depends on, though I'm no
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:24:35PM +0530, Nilesh Kumar wrote:
> Sir, can you tell whether Cinnamon desktop environment is available in
> jessie release or not.
Did you not see Lisi's answer to the last time you asked this question?
https://lists.debian.org/201410171545.12315.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Why do you just ask the sirs and not the madams, too? Is it for the same reason
that you are not able or willing to find out the answer to your simple question
just by yourself?
On 18 October 2014 18:54:35 CEST, Nilesh Kumar wrote:
>Sir, can you tell whether Cinnamon desktop environment is avai
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> I guess that claws uses (lib)dbus to notify dbus-compliant softwares
> that there is a new mail.
Also claws might get a signal from (for example) network-manager if
there is a connection available to toggle its offline/online mode to
avoid unnecessary trie
Sir, can you tell whether Cinnamon desktop environment is available in
jessie release or not.
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Le 18.10.2014 16:14, Brian a écrit :
Which once again raises the main question; what does systemd have to
do
with this? The original post gives an unexplained solution to a
non-existent problem.
Dbus is (a crap, but not only) a tool to allow applications to share
informations with other app
On 18/10/14 16:29, Peter Nieman wrote:
And I don't understand "TIA", unless it's Spanish.
"Thanks In Advance"
Well, I thought there was a strong relationship between systemd and
dbus.
Various parts of the systemd suite, including the systemd init daemon,
use dbus to present its control int
Le 18.10.2014 16:29, Peter Nieman a écrit :
As far as I am concerned, I don't have the time right now to learn
the officially accepted procedures of filing bug reports in Debian
Just run bugreport (or is it reportbug? I don't have a Debian
currently, but I'm trying to fix that :p) . It'll ask
I use Wheezy on desktop computer. I use vesa driver for X because radeon is
not working. After pm-suspend command, computer is like turned off, when press
power button it wakes up, but not monitor and not keyboard.
I tried --quirk-dpms-on, but didn't help.
I also tried kernel options noapic and ir
On 18/10/14 13:49, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/10/14 23:28, Peter Nieman wrote:
On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote:
Why
it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown.
You're asking the wrong question. The question you should ask yourself
is: if claws-mail works perfectly well without dbus,
On Sun 19 Oct 2014 at 00:05:08 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 19/10/14 00:29, Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:24:16 +0100
> > Brian wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat 18 Oct 2014 at 14:28:26 +0200, Peter Nieman wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote:
> Why
> it ne
2014-10-18 14:24 keltezéssel, Diogene Laerce írta:
>> There are several: apticron, cron-apt, unattended-upgrades and I see
>> update-notifier is being replaced with gnome-packagekit.
>
> I was looking for a portable and simple way to notify the user
> of necessary update. But update-manager is no
Reco writes:
> This page tells otherwise:
> https://packages.debian.org/jessie/claws-mail
> OK, it's 'libdbus-1-3', not 'dbus' dependency, but libdbus-1-3
> recommends dbus.
Then it isn't a dependency.
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On 19/10/14 00:29, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:24:16 +0100
> Brian wrote:
>
>> On Sat 18 Oct 2014 at 14:28:26 +0200, Peter Nieman wrote:
>>
>>> On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote:
Why
it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown.
>>>
>>> You're asking the wrong qu
On 19/10/14 00:14, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:06:17 +0400
> Reco wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:24:16 -0400
>> Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:00:26 +0200
>>> lee wrote:
>>>
>>>
But when it eats files and is 10 years behind, why are people
>>>
Hi.
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:24:16 +0100
Brian wrote:
> On Sat 18 Oct 2014 at 14:28:26 +0200, Peter Nieman wrote:
>
> > On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote:
> > >Why
> > >it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown.
> >
> > You're asking the wrong question. The question you should ask
> > y
On Sat 18 Oct 2014 at 14:28:26 +0200, Peter Nieman wrote:
> On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote:
> >Why
> >it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown.
>
> You're asking the wrong question. The question you should ask
> yourself is: if claws-mail works perfectly well without dbus, then
> why
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:06:17 +0400
Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:24:16 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:00:26 +0200
> > lee wrote:
> >
> >
> > > But when it eats files and is 10 years behind, why are people
> > > buying it?
> > >
> > > So how can we sa
On 18/10/14 23:28, Peter Nieman wrote:
> On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote:
>> Why
>> it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown.
>
> You're asking the wrong question. The question you should ask yourself
> is: if claws-mail works perfectly well without dbus, then why does
> Debian ship a v
On 17/10/14 20:25, Brian wrote:
Why
it needs to be compiled without dbus is also unknown.
You're asking the wrong question. The question you should ask yourself
is: if claws-mail works perfectly well without dbus, then why does
Debian ship a version that depends on it?
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On 10/17/2014 10:18 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 17 oct 14, 20:20:29, Diogene Laerce wrote:
>>
>> Debian does have a specific tool to check if a system needs to be
>> updated but many users will just want to manually check if any
>> security updates are available for their system. "
> ...
hi to everyone,
i would ask if is possible to connect in multihead a displaylink display
(connected by usb 2.0) and an other display connected by a hdmi port (with
intel HD grapics gpu).
sorry for my poor english and don't hesitate to reply me for any reason.
have a nice day, Matteo Pellegrini
Hi there
update-flashplugin-nonfree downloads old version;
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765457
For i386 that's;
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.411/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
Regards,
Rob
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On 18/10/14 02:38, Steve Litt wrote:
I would add that it should be delegated to an interchangeable part
through a well-specified thin interface, without global variables like
dbus. Or, if there *must* be a global variable, at least make it
purposed only for interaction between init and program, a
dn Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Steve Litt wrote:
. . .
My suspicion at this point would be either a
flaw in his smb.conf (which is easy to test by temporarily replacing it
with a minimal) or Samba itself.
. . .
I was on the way to do that, but I first re-installed samba and
On Sat, 2014-10-18 at 21:13 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:20:20PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
[...]
> > The list will likely be empty, I'm afraid. The whole point of the GR is
> > that its proponents can make any required work SEP if it succeeds.
>
> SEP? Google is no
On 2014-10-18 10:13 +0200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:20:20PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
>>
>> The list will likely be empty, I'm afraid. The whole point of the GR is
>> that its proponents can make any required work SEP if it succeeds.
>
> SEP? Google is no help.
I mea
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:20:20PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2014-10-17 21:42 +0200, Ric Moore wrote:
>
> > On 10/17/2014 01:32 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> >> On 10/17/2014 1:29 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> >>> I finished the thread right before I posted, and there were only 4
> >>> seconds.
> >>
> >
Hi.
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:24:16 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:00:26 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>
> > But when it eats files and is 10 years behind, why are people buying
> > it?
> >
> > So how can we safely store large amounts of data?
>
> I thought Postgres was supposed to b
Hi.
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:00:26 +0200
lee wrote:
> Reco writes:
>
> > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 03:33:15AM +0200, lee wrote:
> >> > A correct guess. A recommended minimum is kernel 3.14 - [2].
> >>
> >> So this is a rather new feature. How reliable and how well does it
> >> work?
> >
> > I w
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:18:53PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 17 oct 14, 20:20:29, Diogene Laerce wrote:
> >
> > Debian does have a specific tool to check if a system needs to be
> > updated but many users will just want to manually check if any
> > security updates are available for th
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:25:18PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 17 Oct 2014 at 13:11:23 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > For those of you using Claws-Mail, you can keep it systemd-free into
> > the foreseeable future by disabling dbus, like this:
> >
> > ./configure --disable-dbus
> >
> > I've com
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 00:13:54 +0100
Brian wrote:
> On Fri 17 Oct 2014 at 03:20:44 +0200, lee wrote:
>
> > Brian writes:
> >
> > > Not that I'm suggesting setting up exim to offer an invalid HELO;
> > > it will lead to trouble sooner or later. However, as a reason for
> > > mail being rejected o
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:20:16AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
>
>
> Here are the first few seconds:
Isn't this information available on the debian-vote list? Seems
redundant to repost it here.
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On 10/17/2014 10:26 PM, Doug wrote:
On 10/18/2014 12:59 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
/snip/
I think that depends on what solution you propose, smart people listen.
AMEN!
I can say that I long ago upgraded to Jessie/systemd so that I could be
the first to yell about it. I'm still looking at
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