Re: libreoffice packaging dependency on gnome in Wheezy 7.6

2014-10-07 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/07/2014 at 04:51 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 07 oct 14, 11:15:43, The Wanderer wrote: > >> I suspect that the GNOME package maintainers simply haven't taken >> the existence of libreoffice4.2 packages into account in their >> package dependencies. Ordinarily I'd suggest filing a bug

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Joel Rees
2014/10/08 6:07 "Andrei POPESCU" : > > On Ma, 07 oct 14, 12:00:57, Steve Litt wrote: > > > >https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708 > > > > Read ^H^H^H^H skim the thread. Notice how, in the first 10 posts, after > > insisting that alternate inits be part of the discussion, a guy na

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/6/2014 4:19 PM, Joe wrote: > On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:38:33 -0400 > Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > >>> >> >> That's very interesting - because I don't have any networks specified >> in any dc_relay_nets - yet my email goes out (and comes in) just fine. >> > > Indeed. My server isn't listening on

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/6/2014 7:30 PM, lee wrote: > Jerry Stuckle writes: > >> For instance, MUAs typically connect on port 587 (at least that is the >> recommendation), while MTAs always use port 25. Additionally, MUAs >> should always be validated with signon/password, to prevent the server >> from becoming an

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-10-07 Thread Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
On 06/09/14 06:04, lee wrote: > Hi, > > how would I figure out what the last commit to a remote repo was without > first fetching or pulling the remote repo? $ git ls-remote origin ... will show you the list of references (tags, branches/heads) that exist on the remote "origin", and what SHA1 the

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/6/2014 7:10 PM, lee wrote: > Jerry Stuckle writes: > >>>dc_relay_nets >>> A list of machines for which we serve as smarthost. >>> >>> That looks ideal, doesn't it? >>> >>> >> >> Right. But he's not running multiple MTAs - he only has the one, as he >> already indicated. > >

Re: Removing unwanted language files from texlive.

2014-10-07 Thread Sharon Kimble
Jörg-Volker Peetz writes: > How did you install texlive? > > What is the output of > > apt-mark showmanual | grep texlive > > ? Through the jessie repository. Your command gives the output - texlive-full Thanks Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo = https://bit

Re: how to force chronyd to be online after booting

2014-10-07 Thread lee
Philippe Clérié writes: > On 09/27/2014 07:17 AM, lee wrote: >> Hm, you don't use UPSs? > > :-) > > It's a long story. I'll make it short: I'm in Haiti. Grid power is an > iffy proposition. > > :-) > > So we have to have heavy backups. That means generators and large > inverters. There is always

Re: SDD I/O very low < 10% normal

2014-10-07 Thread lee
KS writes: > In the BIOS, the SATA ports are set to IDE. Should they be set to AHCI > instead? (third option is RAID). AHCI When set to IDE, only a smaller feature set will be supported. -- Hallowed are the Debians! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-10-07 Thread lee
Linux-Fan writes: > On 09/30/2014 01:40 AM, lee wrote: > > [...] > >> I think I figured it out: The USB stuff was actually going to sleep and >> remained unresponsive once it fell asleep, until a reboot. I used >> powertop to disable the power management for USB and didn't have any >> further is

Re: how to force chronyd to be online after booting

2014-10-07 Thread lee
Dieter Deyke writes: >> On 09/26/2014 06:31 PM, lee wrote: >>> is there an easy way to force chronyd to get into/remain in its online >>> mode rather than going into offline mode? > > I had the same problem. My workaround was to run the following python > script from /etc/cron.hourly/ > > #! /usr

Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-07 Thread John Holland
You can copy with dd from the snapshot to another block device or a file. That file can be on the same computer or you can get it to another computer by using netcat, NFS, rsync etc. On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 19:10:54 -0400 John Holland wrote: > It's been a while since I dealt with lvm snapshots but th

Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-07 Thread John Holland
It's been a while since I dealt with lvm snapshots but they are available as I guess block devices somehow, you might have to google to find out how to get the exact path to the snapshot. On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 21:47:05 +0200 lee wrote: > John Holland writes: > > > I think you can pipe output of

Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-07 Thread John Holland
I'm having very good results using their repo and DKMS system to build support into kernel modules. It's very easy to set up. I'm using it with Linux 3.2.0. The license of ZFS makes it impossible to be part of the kernel per se. The DKMS system is well known for supporting kernel modules for video

segfaults and error 4 in ld-2.13.so with soffice.bin and kate

2014-10-07 Thread Gary Roach
After cloning my bad drive to a new one and installing the new drive (see previous messages titled excessive CPU usage) i am left with the following problem: Kate and libreoffice.writer refuse to open and give the errors soffice.bin[10369]: segfault at 7ffe25921b1c ip 7ffd559f97c3 sp

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:28 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > On 10/07/2014 at 02:58 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > >> As Don pointed out, it's the threads that have been clipped, as it >> were, not the topics: I think it's probably just as well, as those >> threads themselves were started by either a sockpuppet

Re: Error at boot

2014-10-07 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 21:35:22 +0200 Erwan David sent: > Le 07/10/2014 21:33, Erwan David a écrit : > > I get an error at boot, afterwards I see it is : > > systemctl --failed > > UNITLOAD ACTIVE > > SUB DESCRIPTION > > ● systemd-backlight@backlight:ac

Re: Suggested Openbox hotkey functions

2014-10-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 00:24:45 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > Identify this desktop > > > > > > Is this possible? I can't find the action mentioned in the docs > > > (but I might be missing it) > > > > It exploits a mistake in Openbox. As far as I know, with Openbox you > > can't have a 2 di

Re: Lots of LSB related mesages at boot

2014-10-07 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Hans Ullrich: > However, everything is working well, as far as I see. > Maybe it is, because I am using encrypted filesystems? Or because of using a > SSD-drive? Look; don't guess. You've discovered with systemctl list-units --failed which units have failed. Now use systemctl status on each of

Re: pcmanfm won't mount USB stick on Jessie

2014-10-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Rob Owens wrote: > I've filed a bug, but haven't gotten any answers yet. > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760397 > > Is anybody else having trouble mounting a USB stick using pcmanfm? > When I try it, I get: > > "Not Authorized: > GDBus

Re: Suggested Openbox hotkey functions

2014-10-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 07 oct 14, 11:16:19, Steve Litt wrote: > > The point I was making was the functions that should be hotkeyed, not > what the hotkeys should be. I think every computer user has his/her > own personal workflow and muscle memory, so no key combination would > be sufficient for everyone. For ins

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 07 oct 14, 12:00:57, Steve Litt wrote: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708 > > Read ^H^H^H^H skim the thread. Notice how, in the first 10 posts, after > insisting that alternate inits be part of the discussion, a guy named > Thorsten Glaser was ordered not to bring

Re: libreoffice packaging dependency on gnome in Wheezy 7.6

2014-10-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 07 oct 14, 11:15:43, The Wanderer wrote: > > I suspect that the GNOME package maintainers simply haven't taken the > existence of libreoffice4.2 packages into account in their package > dependencies. Ordinarily I'd suggest filing a bug report asking them to > correct that, but at this late

Re: Wifi works again. Should I post bug reports?

2014-10-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 07 oct 14, 09:17:26, Carl Fink wrote: > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 09:24:05AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > [1] I'm not 100% sure how one can designate a user to be an admin. At > > one point it was membership of group 'sudo', even though sudo isn't > > actually used as far as I underst

Re: XFCE icons disappeared on Jessie

2014-10-07 Thread Jape Person
On 10/07/2014 03:06 PM, Ximo wrote: El 06/10/14 a las #4, Jape Person escribió: On 10/06/2014 03:02 PM, Ximo wrote: Hello, After a Jessie update icons of same themes disappeared on XFCE 4.10. On XFCE Settings > Appearance > Icons I've tried GNOME, HighContrast and Tango. The only that works i

Re: mounting local hd from live usb, was 'root account inaccessible'

2014-10-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 07 oct 14, 11:29:34, John Aten wrote: > > All the following was done in the live system: > > sudo fdisk -l returns only /dev/sda1 > > blkid returns /dev/sda1 (whose label and UUID confirm that it is the > USB drive) and /dev/loop0. This is not good, your live system doesn't detect your

Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-10-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[please don't top-post, it makes it difficult to follow who said what] On Ma, 07 oct 14, 16:28:52, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > Out of interest, once Jessie has been frozen and then becomes stable would > this package be upgraded to 4.11.0 or greater? Not exactly sure what you're asking, but ma

Re: Error at boot

2014-10-07 Thread Erwan David
Le 07/10/2014 21:33, Erwan David a écrit : > I get an error at boot, afterwards I see it is : > systemctl --failed > UNITLOAD ACTIVE SUB > DESCRIPTION > ● systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service loaded failed failed > Load/Save Screen Backl

Error at boot

2014-10-07 Thread Erwan David
I get an error at boot, afterwards I see it is : systemctl --failed UNITLOAD ACTIVE SUB DESCRIPTION ● systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service loaded failed failed Load/Save Screen Backlight Brightness of backlight:acpi_video0 What should I

Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-10-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 16:28:52 +0100 Michael Fothergill wrote: > This package won't work in Debian testing, the reason being that > xfce-theme-manager is built against libxfce4ui-1-0 (>= 4.11.0), and > testing only has version 4.10.0 of this library ATM. > > Out of interest, once Jessie has b

Re: XFCE icons disappeared on Jessie

2014-10-07 Thread Ximo
El 06/10/14 a las #4, Jape Person escribió: On 10/06/2014 03:02 PM, Ximo wrote: Hello, After a Jessie update icons of same themes disappeared on XFCE 4.10. On XFCE Settings > Appearance > Icons I've tried GNOME, HighContrast and Tango. The only that works is HighContrast. Maybe it's a problem

Re: cleaning after apt-mirror

2014-10-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > but the problem is > > 2) Have a version number less than the version in the Packages file. > > look at these packages: > > main/m/mutter/gir1.2-mutter-3.0_3.12.2-2_i386.deb > main/m/mutter/gir1.2-mutter-3.0_3.12.2-2+b1_i386.deb > > the sort gi

pcmanfm won't mount USB stick on Jessie

2014-10-07 Thread Rob Owens
I've filed a bug, but haven't gotten any answers yet. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760397 Is anybody else having trouble mounting a USB stick using pcmanfm? When I try it, I get: "Not Authorized: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedes

Re: Lots of LSB related mesages at boot

2014-10-07 Thread Hans
Hi Michael, hi Sven! Yes, you are right, I have indeed errors. systemctl --failed UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUBDESCRIPTION ● speech-dispatcher.serviceloaded failed failed LSB: Speech Dispatcher ● systemd-modules-load.service loaded failed failed Load Kernel Modules ● sy

Re: Re: cleaning after apt-mirror

2014-10-07 Thread Abdelkader Belahcene
thanks for reply, but the problem is 2) Have a version number less than the version in the Packages file. look at these packages: main/m/mutter/gir1.2-mutter-3.0_3.12.2-2_i386.deb main/m/mutter/gir1.2-mutter-3.0_3.12.2-2+b1_i386.deb the sort gives gir1.2-mutter-3.0_3.12.2-2_i386.deb more recent

Re: Jessie: suddenly unable to make any changes with apt-get or aptitude:

2014-10-07 Thread Sentientmeat Net
That solved it! I tried the 'getent' command and it found nothing, so I resolved to just find anything mentioning dba_group_gid... turned out that some lines I added to /etc/sysctl.conf while trying to install Oracle (working from a fairly informative blog posting about installing Oracle on Debian

Re: Lots of LSB related mesages at boot

2014-10-07 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 07.10.2014 um 20:02 schrieb Sven Joachim: > On 2014-10-07 18:15 +0200, Hans wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> after the last update (debian/jessie), I get a lot of LSB related messages >> and >> other stufff at boot. > > I presume you are using systemd? There is a new behavior in version > 215,

Re: Jessie: suddenly unable to make any changes with apt-get or aptitude:

2014-10-07 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 07.10.2014 um 19:53 schrieb Don Armstrong: > On Tue, 07 Oct 2014, Sentientmeat Net wrote: >> Hmm, I tried to figure out what group id might be required to replace... >> >> 'vm.hugetlb_shm_grop dba_group_gid' >> >> ...with, in... >> >> /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/sysctl.d/* (and I have no idea wher

Re: Lots of LSB related mesages at boot

2014-10-07 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-10-07 18:15 +0200, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > after the last update (debian/jessie), I get a lot of LSB related messages > and > other stufff at boot. I presume you are using systemd? There is a new behavior in version 215, as soon as a unit fails to start systemd enters verbose mode

Re: mounting local hd from live usb, was 'root account inaccessible'

2014-10-07 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2014-10-07 18:29 keltezéssel, John Aten írta: > All the following was done in the live system: > > sudo fdisk -l returns only /dev/sda1 This is the partition you should mount. -- --- Friczy --- 'Death is not a bug, it's a feature' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian

Re: Jessie: suddenly unable to make any changes with apt-get or aptitude:

2014-10-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014, Sentientmeat Net wrote: > Hmm, I tried to figure out what group id might be required to replace... > > 'vm.hugetlb_shm_grop dba_group_gid' > > ...with, in... > > /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/sysctl.d/* (and I have no idea where or which > package 'dba_group_gid' came from--some

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Brian
On Tue 07 Oct 2014 at 17:18:56 +, Curt wrote: > On 2014-10-07, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > Self-censorship is one way of characterizing it. Another > > characterization would be sticking to the facts. > > > > A third characterization would be acting consistently. I strongly > > believe in bein

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-07, Steve Litt wrote: > > Self-censorship is one way of characterizing it. Another > characterization would be sticking to the facts. > > A third characterization would be acting consistently. I strongly > believe in being nice, and sticking to the facts, not discussing > personalities

Re: Jessie: suddenly unable to make any changes with apt-get or aptitude:

2014-10-07 Thread Sentientmeat Net
Hi Don, Hmm, I tried to figure out what group id might be required to replace... 'vm.hugetlb_shm_grop dba_group_gid' ...with, in... /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/sysctl.d/* (and I have no idea where or which package 'dba_group_gid' came from--something standard and maintained I'm 99.9% sure). I ran

GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Permission denied

2014-10-07 Thread Slavko
Hi, after today update of my Debian testing i cannot hibernate, nor suspend, not reboot, nor halt the system from the regular user XFCE session with the message: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Permission denied Please, how i can these thing get back? Which permissions are r

Re: Shellshock Fix for Debian 5 and 7

2014-10-07 Thread Michele Perrucci
http://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_451 2014-10-07 18:22 GMT+02:00 Don Armstrong : > On Tue, 07 Oct 2014, Matthew Brown wrote: > > For Debian 5 and 7, if I do an update from the debian site will it > address > > the Shellshock issue? If not, is there a particular way you'd recommend > > that I patch t

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Peter Nieman
On 07/10/14 18:00, Steve Litt wrote: Read ^H^H^H^H skim the thread. Notice how, in the first 10 posts, after insisting that alternate inits be part of the discussion, a guy named Thorsten Glaser was ordered not to bring up alternate inits in the thread again. Again and again, the conversation is

Re: mounting local hd from live usb, was 'root account inaccessible'

2014-10-07 Thread John Aten
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Oct 7, 2014, at 1:12 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 06 oct 14, 10:23:28, John Aten wrote: >> I booted up the broken system and attempted to get the device name >> looking at /etc/fstab, mount and fdisk -l. I got a device name >> (/dev/sda1

Re: cleaning after apt-mirror

2014-10-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > I am not satisfied by my script. I sorted the package in descending > order and kept the first and deleted others. this seemed correct, It's not correct. You must sort on the basis of version number, which does not necessarily increase lexically.

Re: Shellshock Fix for Debian 5 and 7

2014-10-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014, Matthew Brown wrote: > For Debian 5 and 7, if I do an update from the debian site will it address > the Shellshock issue? If not, is there a particular way you'd recommend > that I patch these server? I appreciate your help and thank you in advance! Lenny (Debian 5) has been

Lots of LSB related mesages at boot

2014-10-07 Thread Hans
Hi folks, after the last update (debian/jessie), I get a lot of LSB related messages and other stufff at boot. It is a little bit annoying. Can I suppress these? I gave the option "quiet" in the grub commandline already. Additionally I discovered a new message, telling me, it is checking some

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 13:08:15 +0200 Peter Nieman wrote: > On 07/10/14 07:23, Steve Litt wrote: > > These are nowhere near a verbatim repeat of what the Listmaster > > said, but if these two things are what he meant, well, I can live > > with that, always assuming it's enforced uniformly and poster

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 23:10:32 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 08:59:30AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > Hi Steve, > > > > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 01:23:06AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > 1) Don't respond to "obvious trolls". Although "obvious trolls" > > > wasn't d

Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-10-07 Thread Michael Fothergill
This package won't work in Debian testing, the reason being that xfce-theme-manager is built against libxfce4ui-1-0 (>= 4.11.0), and testing only has version 4.10.0 of this library ATM. Out of interest, once Jessie has been frozen and then becomes stable would this package be upgraded to 4.11.0 or

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 08:59:30 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 01:23:06AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > 1) Don't respond to "obvious trolls". Although "obvious trolls" > > wasn't defined > > Since there is probably some concern that an obvious troll might no

Re: Suggested Openbox hotkey functions

2014-10-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:22:04 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 06 oct 14, 18:08:22, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Everyone has a different way of working, so your hotkeys will > > probably be different than mine, but systemd here's a list of > > Openbox functions I >

Re: libreoffice packaging dependency on gnome in Wheezy 7.6

2014-10-07 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/07/2014 at 10:44 AM, Buchs, Kevin J. wrote: > Martin, > > Thanks for the suggestion. After I unmarkedauto gnome, apt still > wanted to remove gnome, i.e. no change. I notice here that gnome is > listed as dependent upon libreoffice-calc: > https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gnome (Please d

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 7. Oktober 2014, 09:28:51 schrieb The Wanderer: > On 10/07/2014 at 02:58 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > > As Don pointed out, it's the threads that have been clipped, as it > > were, not the topics: I think it's probably just as well, as those > > threads themselves were started by either a so

Re: Shellshock Fix for Debian 5 and 7

2014-10-07 Thread Matthew Brown
Hello Andrew. I hope all is well. For Debian 5 and 7, if I do an update from the debian site will it address the Shellshock issue? If not, is there a particular way you'd recommend that I patch these server? I appreciate your help and thank you in advance! On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Matt

Re: libreoffice packaging dependency on gnome in Wheezy 7.6

2014-10-07 Thread Buchs, Kevin J.
Martin, Thanks for the suggestion. After I unmarkedauto gnome, apt still wanted to remove gnome, i.e. no change. I notice here that gnome is listed as dependent upon libreoffice-calc: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gnome -- Kevin Buchs Research Computer Services Phone: 507-538-5459 Mayo

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi, > On 7 Oct 2014, at 14:24, The Wanderer wrote: > > I thought the comment he gave in the rest of the sentence you snipped > sounded like a reasonable "rule of thumb" to use. I haven't looked at > the exact message in question to check, but I suspect that it would > indeed have fit that crite

Re: Newbie friendly security and firewall docs (cookbook?)

2014-10-07 Thread Richard Owlett
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 06 oct 14, 06:11:36, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm aware of "Securing Debian Manual". I'm looking for more an introductory document. You might want to start documenting this yourself on wiki.debian.org. I'm halfway doing that already by collecting answers to my que

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/07/2014 at 02:58 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > As Don pointed out, it's the threads that have been clipped, as it > were, not the topics: I think it's probably just as well, as those > threads themselves were started by either a sockpuppet or someone who > had lost control of himself, and the threa

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread davidson
On Mon, 6 Oct 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: On Mon, 06 Oct 2014, Steve Litt wrote: Several of my posts to lists.debian.org have not made it to the list, as defined by both my inbox and the list archive. Threads which are off topic for debian-user may be filtered out by listmas...@lists.debian.or

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/07/2014 at 06:10 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 08:59:30AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> Hi Steve, >> >> On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 01:23:06AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> >>> 1) Don't respond to "obvious trolls". Although "obvious trolls" >>> wasn't defined >> >>

Re: Wifi works again. Should I post bug reports?

2014-10-07 Thread Carl Fink
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 09:24:05AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > [1] I'm not 100% sure how one can designate a user to be an admin. At > one point it was membership of group 'sudo', even though sudo isn't > actually used as far as I understand. Surely that's group sudoers? -- Carl Fink

Re: Software version issue

2014-10-07 Thread Joe
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 23:29:34 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 09:05:08AM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:52:51 +0300 > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > On Lu, 06 oct 14, 21:26:33, Joe wrote: > > > > > > > > So your choice is between testing and unstable, Jessi

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Peter Nieman
On 07/10/14 07:23, Steve Litt wrote: These are nowhere near a verbatim repeat of what the Listmaster said, but if these two things are what he meant, well, I can live with that, always assuming it's enforced uniformly and posters are notified when their posts go to /dev/null. I'll try hard to co

cleaning after apt-mirror

2014-10-07 Thread Abdelkader Belahcene
Hi, I created a local mirror for testing distro using apt-mirror. the /var/clean.sh The problem is when I ran it again, the old packages are still there, the /var/clean.sh didn't clean the old version !!!??? so I wrote a script to clean it, I attach my script. I am not satisfied by my script.

Re: Software version issue

2014-10-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 09:05:08AM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:52:51 +0300 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Lu, 06 oct 14, 21:26:33, Joe wrote: > > > > > > So your choice is between testing and unstable, Jessie and Sid. Sid > > > is a rougher ride, more likely to have things broken

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Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 08:59:30AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 01:23:06AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > 1) Don't respond to "obvious trolls". Although "obvious trolls" wasn't > >defined > > Since there is probably some concern that an obvious troll

Re: Fvwm.... this actually didn't work........

2014-10-07 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 06:36:27 + Vincent mentioned this: Re: Fvwm this actually didn't work. > But then this defeats the whole purpose of the Debian menu, since you > now have to maintain your own ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook. From my keyboard: Hello Vincent, The

Re: Newbie friendly security and firewall docs (cookbook?)

2014-10-07 Thread koanhead
On 10/06/2014 04:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm a relatively new convert from Windows to Debian... > I'm looking for a reference document that wouldn't scare my friend off > Debian and also give me the required information to: > 1. close the maximum number of ports. > I see him using bro

Re: Software Version Issue

2014-10-07 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 12:05:12PM -0700, PETER ZOELLER wrote: >Hi: >I have been using Debian for sometime and am happy with the distribution.  >However I recently experienced a problem with the Gimp supplied by Debian >and contacted the Gimp organization with the issue I was having

Wireless connection problems after testing upgrade

2014-10-07 Thread Sam Varghese
I run Debian testing on a Lenovo Thinkpad E531 which I bought in June. I have been running Debian for the last 14 years, and have used the testing stream on several machines for the last seven or eight years. I have never used network-manager to manage my wireless connection, depending instead on

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-07 Thread Joe
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:00:38 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 06:41:21PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > You want to see off-topic pedantry on a Debian list? Here is an > > excerpt: > > Not really ;) that's why I was trying to nip this one in the bud... > > I thought that was a ra

Re: Software version issue

2014-10-07 Thread Joe
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:52:51 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 06 oct 14, 21:26:33, Joe wrote: > > > > So your choice is between testing and unstable, Jessie and Sid. Sid > > is a rougher ride, more likely to have things broken at any time and > > without warning, but for the next (approximate

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 06:41:21PM +0100, Joe wrote: > You want to see off-topic pedantry on a Debian list? Here is an excerpt: Not really ;) that's why I was trying to nip this one in the bud... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi Steve, On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 01:23:06AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > 1) Don't respond to "obvious trolls". Although "obvious trolls" wasn't >defined Since there is probably some concern that an obvious troll might not judged to be so obvious from one person to the next, may I ask, how wou

Re: Newbie friendly security and firewall docs (cookbook?)

2014-10-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 06 oct 14, 06:11:36, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I'm aware of "Securing Debian Manual". I'm looking for more an introductory > document. You might want to start documenting this yourself on wiki.debian.org. Feel free to add to FAQsFromDebianUser or create a new page. The content could come

Re: Suggested Openbox hotkey functions

2014-10-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 06 oct 14, 18:08:22, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Everyone has a different way of working, so your hotkeys will probably > be different than mine, but systemd here's a list of Openbox functions I ^ Trying to test the filters? > think *should* be hotk