On 10/07/2014 at 06:10 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 08:59:30AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> Hi Steve, >> >> On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 01:23:06AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> >>> 1) Don't respond to "obvious trolls". Although "obvious trolls" >>> wasn't defined >> >> Since there is probably some concern that an obvious troll might >> not judged to be so obvious from one person to the next, may I ask, >> how would you interpret the message to which you were trying to >> reply on the troll-scale?
I thought the comment he gave in the rest of the sentence you snipped sounded like a reasonable "rule of thumb" to use. I haven't looked at the exact message in question to check, but I suspect that it would indeed have fit that criterion. > I think persistance would be one. Repeated postings on the same > issue when they've been told that this is the wrong forum for such > discussion. I think that's overly broad. Topicality per se has nothing to do with trolling; it's certainly possible to persist in attempting to seriously discuss a given subject even when that subject is offtopic, and while doing so may (in the extreme case, and/or depending on the exact subject) be enough to warrant a postban, it's not the same as trolling. Not to mention that there's room for disagreement about what is and is not offtopic, and at least some fraction of the systemd-controversy discussion on this list (as distinct from the "asking for help with using systemd" and similar) has fallen in that gray area. Just because some people feel strongly enough that a given subject is automatically offtopic that they post repeatedly to remind others of that fact does not mean that those people are right, or that continuing to discuss that subject is presumptively trolling. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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