Can't We Have Another Vote for Systemd

2014-09-24 Thread Hörmetjan Yiltiz
I hope you all can realize how much I do NOT want to open yet again another issue on #NotSystemd topic. Seeing that the issue is still going on and on for almost from the moment Debian decided to use systemd, and also considering the fact that the vote was actually a tie, and it was decided by the

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-24 Thread Marty
On 09/24/2014 02:45 PM, Brian wrote: Chanting "Red Hat Conspirancy" to yourself before falling into a deep slumber is one thing. Convincing most other people it exists is a task which requires a little bit more. Let's see, the real goal of systemd has nothing to do with init or service mana

PuTTY tips for Debian users

2014-09-24 Thread Stephen Powell
In another post a couple of months ago (see https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/07/msg00592.html) I gave some recommendations for optimal PuTTY settings for use with Debian hosts. I'd like to follow up on that based on recent discoveries that I have made. One of the things I recommended wa

Re: Effectively criticizing decisions you disagree with in Debian

2014-09-24 Thread lee
Joel Rees writes: >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:16 AM, lee wrote: >> >> I could guess that implicit linkage might refer to side effects of >> intentional entanglement which may be undesirable or may occur without >> being noticed (until a problem shows up which then might be hard to >> track down

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-24 Thread lee
Martin Steigerwald writes: > Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee: >> Martin Steigerwald writes: >> >> Do you really think they will be able to prevent all the other >> software from depending on a particular init system or parts of it? > > Well… thats to be taken upstream, isn´t

Re: Bash Code Injection Vulnerability via Specially Crafted Environment Variables (CVE-2014-6271)

2014-09-24 Thread Brian
On Wed 24 Sep 2014 at 16:52:50 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Bash Code Injection Vulnerability via Specially Crafted Environment > Variables (CVE-2014-6271) > > https://access.redhat.com/articles/1200223 [Snip] Nearly 50 minutes before your mail we had: To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From:

Re: Bash Code Injection Vulnerability via Specially Crafted Environment Variables (CVE-2014-6271

2014-09-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:25:58 -0500 John Hasler wrote: [snip] > Package: bash > CVE ID : CVE-2014-6271 > > Stephane Chazelas discovered a vulnerability in bash, [snip] > For the stable distribution (wheezy), this problem has been fixed in > version 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u1. [snip]

[USB 3.0] xchi_hcd dropping endpoints

2014-09-24 Thread F. Gatzemeier
Hi list, I have a Toshiba Canvio external HD drive attached via USB 3.0 to an Asus Fatality board, but the two do not quite get along. Sometimes forever, sometimes just for about 20 minutes, all I get is (in /var/log/messages and similarly in dmesg): Sep 24 23:32:19 calcox kernel: [19729.969142]

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 07:07:08PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 23 Sep 2014 at 12:58:26 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > === Depending on glibc === > > True, it's a single point of failure, but it's made by GNU, whose > > agenda is less harmful to Linux than the agenda of Redhat. > > Misinformati

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-24 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/24/2014 01:43 PM, Brian wrote: On Wed 24 Sep 2014 at 12:33:35 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Look at it this way: If GNU wanted to stick stuff into their compiler to reduce the utility of Linux, they would have done so years ago. They never have. Redhat just did, bigtime. This is the Red Hat

Re: Bash Code Injection Vulnerability via Specially Crafted Environment Variables (CVE-2014-6271

2014-09-24 Thread John Hasler
- Debian Security Advisory DSA-3032-1 secur...@debian.org http://www.debian.org/security/Florian Weimer September 24, 2014 http://www.debian.org/security/faq ---

Re: Bash Code Injection Vulnerability via Specially Crafted Environment Variables (CVE-2014-6271)

2014-09-24 Thread Iain M Conochie
On 24/09/14 21:52, Steve Litt wrote: Hi everyone, Bash Code Injection Vulnerability via Specially Crafted Environment Variables (CVE-2014-6271) https://access.redhat.com/articles/1200223 My current Debian setup is vulnerable, as shown below: == sli

Bash Code Injection Vulnerability via Specially Crafted Environment Variables (CVE-2014-6271)

2014-09-24 Thread Steve Litt
Hi everyone, Bash Code Injection Vulnerability via Specially Crafted Environment Variables (CVE-2014-6271) https://access.redhat.com/articles/1200223 My current Debian setup is vulnerable, as shown below: == slitt@mydesq2:~$ env x='() { :;}; \ echo vu

Re: Ideal Debian distro for Asus Notebook?

2014-09-24 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/24/2014 09:57 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 9/23/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 20 sep 14, 11:53:04, Gary Dale wrote: I recommend Debian/Testing (Jessie) which has been quite stable in use and is more up to date than Debian/Stable (Wheezy). You can also try the latest Linux Mint dist

bad bash bug

2014-09-24 Thread Iain M Conochie
Evening, In case people may have missed this: http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2014-6271 Upgrade available for wheezy. Cheers Iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 24 sep 14, 14:05:11, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 10:19:55 +0300 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Ma, 23 sep 14, 19:48:38, Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:10:22 +0100 > > > Jonathan de Boyne Pollard > > > wrote: > > > > > > > http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonath

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-24 Thread Brian
On Wed 24 Sep 2014 at 14:05:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 10:19:55 +0300 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Ma, 23 sep 14, 19:48:38, Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:10:22 +0100 > > > Jonathan de Boyne Pollard > > > wrote: > > > > > > > http://homepage.ntlworld.

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-24 Thread Brian
On Wed 24 Sep 2014 at 14:01:04 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:16:26 +0400 > Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:33:35PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Look at it this way: If GNU wanted to stick stuff into their > > > compiler to reduce the utility of Li

Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-09-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> On 23 Apr 2014, at 17:33, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > However, a lot of > experienced Linux users prefer Syslinux. I'd like to revisit syslinux at some point. It works well on boot USBs etc. Add my voice to the chorus of folks not happy with grub2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

Re: Daemontools Introduction

2014-09-24 Thread Brian
On Wed 24 Sep 2014 at 14:06:52 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > I just finished writing a daemontools intro here: > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/djbdns/daemontools_intro.htm Is this the culmination of your posting to this list to promote your own ends? Or have we more to look forward to? -

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 10:19:55 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 23 sep 14, 19:48:38, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:10:22 +0100 > > Jonathan de Boyne Pollard > > wrote: > > > > > http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/Softwares/nosh.html > > > > Very, very nice,

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:16:26 +0400 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:33:35PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > Look at it this way: If GNU wanted to stick stuff into their > > compiler to reduce the utility of Linux, they would have done so > > years ago. They never have. > > Or did

Daemontools Introduction

2014-09-24 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I just finished writing a daemontools intro here: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/djbdns/daemontools_intro.htm SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@list

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-24 Thread Brian
On Wed 24 Sep 2014 at 12:33:35 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Look at it this way: If GNU wanted to stick stuff into their compiler > to reduce the utility of Linux, they would have done so years ago. They > never have. Redhat just did, bigtime. This is the Red Hat Conspiracy Theory. Does the promoti

Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-24 Thread Brian
On Wed 24 Sep 2014 at 12:44:47 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Somebody once called something or other "string and bailing wire" or > some such. Well, that's exactly what my homegrown cron is. But it's > written in Python, managed by daemontools, so it's pretty easy to > modify to one's own needs. > >

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 13:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Rob Owens wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "The Wanderer" > > > > On 09/22/2014 at 06:54 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > > Those are votes for Debian, but not for systemd, or for "Debian with > > systemd as central". > > > > In the case at

sigabrt chrome

2014-09-24 Thread Ludovico Van
hi all sorry for the little ot, being chrome not open source on a debian stable, after some upgrades (unfortunately cannot track which one, since i don't own that machine), google chrome stopped working. When starting from the cli i only get a "Aborted" and then terminates. This happens with chr

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-24 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:33:35PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Look at it this way: If GNU wanted to stick stuff into their compiler > to reduce the utility of Linux, they would have done so years ago. They > never have. Or did they? http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1407.3/00650.htm

Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-24 Thread Curt
On 2014-09-24, Steve Litt wrote: > > Somebody once called something or other "string and bailing wire" or > some such. Well, that's exactly what my homegrown cron is. But it's > written in Python, managed by daemontools, so it's pretty easy to > modify to one's own needs. > I believe if you're ba

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-24 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "The Wanderer" > > On 09/22/2014 at 06:54 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > Those are votes for Debian, but not for systemd, or for "Debian with > systemd as central". > > In the case at hand, the latter two are what people are asking to be > able to have a vote (

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:30:22 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:58:26PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > True, it's a single point of failure, but it's made by GNU, whose > > agenda is less harmful to Linux than the agenda of Redhat. > > I nearly choked on my coffee reading t

Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:54:57 +0100 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Greetings, > > I carry my wheezy laptop over various timezones, and my VPS with which > it communicates is on the Europe/London zone, which uses DST. > > The result of this is that cron tasks, which are triggered by > localtime becom

Re: security camera software

2014-09-24 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "Bob McGowan" > > On 9/24/14, 6:43 AM, "Rob Owens" wrote: > > >I need to set up a couple usb cameras to record video based on motion > >detection. I prefer ease of setup to a large feature set, since this is > >expected to be only temporary. I want to only

Re: init hangs

2014-09-24 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 09:20:15PM +0530, rajiv chavan wrote: > Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:05:44 +0530 > > Boot-up hangs with: No more processes left in this runlevel. > > Boots in single mode. On init 2 hangs with > (init) tty1 taking long to come up; but we keep wating. > kernel 3.2.0-3-amd64 A quick

Re: security camera software

2014-09-24 Thread Bob McGowan
On 9/24/14, 6:43 AM, "Rob Owens" wrote: >I need to set up a couple usb cameras to record video based on motion >detection. I prefer ease of setup to a large feature set, since this is >expected to be only temporary. I want to only record when there is >motion, so I don't have hours of footage t

Re: Suggestions? A small webserver for file upload

2014-09-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Ron Leach wrote: > List, good afternoon, > > What package would list members suggest for a small webserver that > would enable co-workers to upload files to us? > > [snip] I contract with several companies where I need to upload (and download) multiple files that can be up

Re: Samba group problem

2014-09-24 Thread emmanuel segura
maybe your commands are wrong: for example: mkdir -p /fileserver/sales useradd -m sample-u1 usermod sample-u1 -G sales you need to create the group before smbpasswd -a sample-u1 groupadd sales # FIX ## chgrp -R sales /fileserver/sales 2014-09-24 17:06 GMT+02:00 Gokan Atmaca : > hello

init hangs

2014-09-24 Thread rajiv chavan
Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:05:44 +0530 Boot-up hangs with: No more processes left in this runlevel. Boots in single mode. On init 2 hangs with (init) tty1 taking long to come up; but we keep wating. kernel 3.2.0-3-amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Suggestions? A small webserver for file upload

2014-09-24 Thread green
Ron Leach wrote at 2014-09-24 08:53 -0500: > What package would list members suggest for a small webserver that would > enable co-workers to upload files to us? Though they do not meet all your requirements, you might want to be aware of woof and servefile. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-us

Re: DNS Resolution and Short Names with Dots

2014-09-24 Thread Mark Kamichoff
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 08:55:51AM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Perhaps one of the recent libc upgrades have changed the default for > 'ndots' ? > > If so, according to a quick scan of the resolv.conf(5) manual page you > should be able add this to /etc/resolv.conf to get your old behaviour >

Re: Problem with SSH host keys

2014-09-24 Thread Keith Lawson
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 04:45:50PM -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Keith Lawson wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm running jessie on my laptop and after doing a dist-upgrade yesterday I'm > > getting SSH host key errors for a bunch of servers I've been connecting to > > f

Samba group problem

2014-09-24 Thread Gokan Atmaca
hello How can I give permissions based on the groups SAMBA. ? for example: mkdir -p /fileserver/sales useradd -m sample-u1 usermod sample-u1 -G sales smbpasswd -a sample-u1 groupadd sales chgrp -R sales /fileserver/sales Smb.conf; [sales] comment = sales browseable = yes path = /fileserver/sal

Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-24 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > I carry my wheezy laptop over various timezones, and my VPS with which > it communicates is on the Europe/London zone, which uses DST. > > The result of this is that cron tasks, which are triggered by > localtime become unsynchronised, and only by ar

Re: find

2014-09-24 Thread Gokan Atmaca
> find /backup -mtime +0 -delete Command worked. So 7 days than what do I do to delete old files. Example: find /backup -mtime +6 -delete ? Thanks... On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2014, 17:29:22 schrieb Gokan Atmaca: >> Within a direc

Re: find

2014-09-24 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2014, 17:29:22 schrieb Gokan Atmaca: > Within a directory backup "tar.gz" files you want to delete older than 1 > day. > > I'm doing this as follows. But do not be. > > find /backup/ +1 -delete -mtime > > Can you help? find /backup -mtime +0 -delete find counts days

Re: find

2014-09-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 05:40:08PM +0300, Gokan Atmaca wrote: > Indeed, will be as follows; > find /arsiv/backup/ -mtime +1 -delete Yes, it's important the delete comes after -mtime, otherwise it will be performed before the mtime check. You may also want a '-type f' or /arsiv/backup itself might

Re: find

2014-09-24 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "Gokan Atmaca" > > Thanks for the correction. > > Indeed, will be as follows; > find /arsiv/backup/ -mtime +1 -delete > The +1 will get rounded up, according to the man page: File was last accessed n*24 hours ago. When find figures out how many 24-h

Re: find

2014-09-24 Thread Gokan Atmaca
Thanks for the correction. Indeed, will be as follows; find /arsiv/backup/ -mtime +1 -delete On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 5:37 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 09/24/2014 at 10:29 AM, Gokan Atmaca wrote: > >> Within a directory backup "tar.gz" files y

Re: find

2014-09-24 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/24/2014 at 10:29 AM, Gokan Atmaca wrote: > Within a directory backup "tar.gz" files you want to delete older > than 1 day. > > I'm doing this as follows. But do not be. > > find /backup/ +1 -delete -mtime > > Can you help? I'm not terribl

Re: Suggestions? A small webserver for file upload

2014-09-24 Thread Tom Grace
On 24/09/14 14:53, Ron Leach wrote: What package would list members suggest for a small webserver that would enable co-workers to upload files to us? For just the file-upload bit, FTP is probably your best option. You could set up a space for each of the users who need to upload files, and ha

find

2014-09-24 Thread Gokan Atmaca
Within a directory backup "tar.gz" files you want to delete older than 1 day. I'm doing this as follows. But do not be. find /backup/ +1 -delete -mtime Can you help? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@

Re: Problem with SSH host keys

2014-09-24 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "Don Armstrong" > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Keith Lawson wrote: > > I'll have to look into doign this too. I'm sure there's an explanation > > to this considering things like u...@domain.ca and u...@host.domain.ca > > have different results but if the keys weren'

Re: Suggestions? A small webserver for file upload

2014-09-24 Thread Jochen Spieker
Ron Leach: > > What package would list members suggest for a small webserver that > would enable co-workers to upload files to us? F*EX was recommended to me once: http://fex.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/ Don't have any experience with it, though. J. -- I count my partner's eyelashes. [Agree] [Disa

Re: Ideal Debian distro for Asus Notebook?

2014-09-24 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/23/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 20 sep 14, 11:53:04, Gary Dale wrote: >> >> I recommend Debian/Testing (Jessie) which has been quite stable in >> use and is more up to date than Debian/Stable (Wheezy). You can also >> try the latest Linux Mint distribution, which is Debian-based and >>

Suggestions? A small webserver for file upload

2014-09-24 Thread Ron Leach
List, good afternoon, What package would list members suggest for a small webserver that would enable co-workers to upload files to us? We exchange files with people we work with through email and attachments - that normally works well. During a recent weekend, a co-worker's email service f

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-24 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Reco wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 09:30:22AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:58:26PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> > True, it's a single point of failure, but it's made by GNU, whose >> > agenda is less harmful to Linux than the agend

security camera software

2014-09-24 Thread Rob Owens
I need to set up a couple usb cameras to record video based on motion detection. I prefer ease of setup to a large feature set, since this is expected to be only temporary. I want to only record when there is motion, so I don't have hours of footage to search through. A quick search shows rec

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-24 Thread Reco
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 09:30:22AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:58:26PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > True, it's a single point of failure, but it's made by GNU, whose > > agenda is less harmful to Linux than the agenda of Redhat. > > I nearly choked on my coffee read

Re: Problem with SSH host keys

2014-09-24 Thread Jochen Spieker
shawn wilson: > > That said, I plan to split up my known_hosts using the > UserKnownHostsFile option Don pointed out as I'm now at >100 lines. > Not much of an issue since ssh tells me what line is the issue and if > I know something has changed (ie, most of my hosts now use ed25519) I > open up v

near-future systemd alternatives

2014-09-24 Thread Dan Ritter
Some systemd alternatives of which I recently became aware: nosh: a daemontools-style init replacement, with Debian Wheezy packaging, BSD compatibility, and systemd conversion. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonathan.deboynepollard/Softwares/nosh.html uselessd: a systemd fork that attempts to dro

Question about the driver of wifi-card

2014-09-24 Thread corvuscorax
Hello! I have trouble in installing driver of my wifi card.. (My computer is "DELL Inpiron 14 5000 Series", the Os is debian 3.16.2. The wifi card should be Intel AC 3160..I think) I can't see my wifi card by using "lspci ", it just shows "02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Device 08b3

cron in UTC?

2014-09-24 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Greetings, I carry my wheezy laptop over various timezones, and my VPS with which it communicates is on the Europe/London zone, which uses DST. The result of this is that cron tasks, which are triggered by localtime become unsynchronised, and only by arranging the task times very carefully can I

Re: Problem with SSH host keys

2014-09-24 Thread shawn wilson
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 3:41 AM, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Another good reason not to hash the known_hosts file: bash command > completion - after "ssh" or "scp" the bash command completion will use > ~/.ssh/known_hosts to suggest/complete hosts. Brilliant stuff. > Weird the ssh host completion

Re: syslog messages flooding the console

2014-09-24 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 05:55:22PM -0700, John Magolske wrote: > After a recent `aptitude dist-upgrade` I'm getting syslog messages > flooding the console, pages & pages of "Asset Found" stuff like: > > Message from syslogd@mymachine at Sep 23 13:46:11 ... > ... Asset Found: IP Address - 16.20.3.

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:58:26PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > True, it's a single point of failure, but it's made by GNU, whose > agenda is less harmful to Linux than the agenda of Redhat. I nearly choked on my coffee reading that. Redhat built their business on Linux; GNU have been hostile toward

Re: Power Mac G4 stuck "Loading second stage bootstrap"

2014-09-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 24 September 2014 08:53:04 Rick Thomas wrote: > On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> On Tuesday 23 September 2014 11:32:59 Lisi Reisz wrote: > >>> On Tuesday 23 September 2014 09:55:36 Rick Thomas wrote: > Wit

Re: Problem with SSH host keys

2014-09-24 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 03:59:56PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Keith Lawson wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:26:36PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > Do you all of the ip addresses and hostnames listed for those keys in > > > known_hosts? > > > > These are all servers

Re: DNS Resolution and Short Names with Dots

2014-09-24 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 05:46:29PM -0400, Mark Kamichoff wrote: > Hi - > > I've been running into somewhat inconsistent behavior with DNS short > name resolution in Debian across a few systems. > > Here's the behavior that I've occasionally relied on over the years: > > % cat /etc/resolv.con

Re: Power Mac G4 stuck "Loading second stage bootstrap"

2014-09-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Tuesday 23 September 2014 11:32:59 Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> On Tuesday 23 September 2014 09:55:36 Rick Thomas wrote: Without a working OS, you will need to find a way to eject the CD tray

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 23 sep 14, 19:48:38, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:10:22 +0100 > Jonathan de Boyne Pollard > wrote: > > > http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/Softwares/nosh.html > > Very, very nice, Jonathan! I'd be a lot happier person had the Debian > crew had selected no

Re: Problem with SSH host keys

2014-09-24 Thread shawn wilson
On Sep 23, 2014 6:44 PM, "Keith Lawson" wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 04:45:50PM -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Keith Lawson wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I'm running jessie on my laptop and after doing a dist-upgrade yesterday I'm > > > getting SSH host k