On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 07:07:08PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 23 Sep 2014 at 12:58:26 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > === Depending on glibc === > > True, it's a single point of failure, but it's made by GNU, whose > > agenda is less harmful to Linux than the agenda of Redhat. > > Misinformation. systemd is not in the control of or managed or developed > by Red Hat, although it will, like Debian, contribute to it. I doubt you > will retract the statement, though. > > > === udev === > > Udev is one of the components that provide hot plugging. Take it out > > and root needs to manually mount stuff. OK, that's a pain in the butt, > > but it's limited. Most of us remember the days when you really had to > > do a mount, as root, to read a thumb drive. Hassle? Yes. Comparable to > > the invasiveness of a PID 1 whose most intimate details are necessary > > to run the most mundane user apps? No. > > Running mc depends on what PID 1 is? Are you sure we are both using > Debian? You are peddling more misinformation. > > I use pmount myself and do not see it as a hassle. Others want what they > see as a more convenient method. They need udev. They're happy and I'm > happy; it's only you who seems a bit miserable. Cheer up; you have the > same choice as us available. > > (Next time, would you please do a question and answer session which > bears some releationship to reality?). > > > === X.org === > > First, no CLI program gives a flying flamingo about what GUI provider > > is used: They don't access it. Systemd, on the other hand, has its > > sticky little fingers in CLI and GUI alike. Second, by definition, a > > GUI program must access GUI system software. There's no such definition > > that CLI user identification must interact with part of PID 1's > > package, nor that a GUI program know the intimate details of PID 1. > > I don't understand what you are trying to say here. You probably don't > either. Not so much misinformation but a propagation of confusion.
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